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As it would take rocket science to change your own IP or use a VPN to disguise yourself..........

Sorry to disappoint you, I'm not that dumb.

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As I stated earlier I am definitely not the most eloquent of sailors. So that good reason should have been formulated as "an unfortunate end to a months long sequence of events"

Anyway I stated I don't want to discuss that, as I do not want to also get dragged into this inter personal problem/feud that got already way out of proportion. It is already bad enough my company got dragged into it, I would like to keep it out of my personal life thank you.

Just to be clear, I just happen to have a similar first name, but written differently.

On topic. If there are valid concerns I am definitly willing to comment on them if I can and if I know something about it (even if it comes from fk_lx). But I don't know everything, and don't always have the time to go figure out who knows what, or how things exactly are.

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There are boundaries that should not be crossed. It's useless to complain about "lack of openness" if one doesn't grasp even simplest things about behaving like a human being. To be tolerated, bad behavior usually must have something to counter it, like exceptional talent (like Linus Torvalds). In this case, such thing obviously doesn't exist.

They could exchange the development effort to "diskutering". It's just hard to see why should they. Issues are aknowledged, even if it's not communicated to every single one personally in long discussions times and times again - I'd rather have those issues fixed than discussed for just being "open". Some of them may be difficult to fix and it takes time. Everything has to be prioritized because there are only limited amount of time and resources available. Some things are impossible to give definite answer (and we know nothing less is enough for some people).

Nobody is asking for "you rock" only. What is asked (and rightly so) is to be constructive and behave. In this case it's easy to see it was not going to be constructive but rather some kind of personal vendetta for some strange reasons - if any of my customers started giving s*it to my wife about my work, it would result in hostile response. And rightly so. In some cultures you might even get a punch in your face for doing something like that. So getting banned from IRC is not really that suprising.

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Anyone getting sick of this? fk_lx - have you ever considered just walking away? I don't know what you expect to accomplish by constantly criticizing Jolla.

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My comment about double accounts was about the accounts "fk_lx" and "pango", not about yours.

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Keep in mind that both Mr Munk and me where previously in close relations. He told me a lot about his wife, was sending her pictures, talking about how they've met, where she works, he was sending pictures of his son, talking about what is happening at his home, he was talking multiple time about his whole family - wife, brother, father, mother-in-law, father-in-law, son etc. etc. Geez, I was together with Mr Munk buying a present for his son in Bielsko-Biała in March this year. In the past Munk was talking about inviting me to his home. I wasn't an average Jolla customer, Munk claimed I was his friend. How would I know who his wife is and what is her and his son name? I contacted his wife single time in my whole life, it's not harassing.

Do you think that single contact with someone's relative to inform them about potential problem of their husband is automatically harassing? Keep in mind that this thread is not about alleged wife harassing (leave that to court) but about Jolla Oy strategy and how they communicate with people and treat their customers.

For me mixing private and professional problems on #jollamobile channel and respoding to private issue with ban is not a professional behavior, for any company employee and especially for someone being chief R&D engineer at Jolla.

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This makes your behaviour look especially bad.
Being in close contact and friendship with someone and then turning against them with such destructive force speaks volumes.

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And I guess something similar happened between fk_lx and thp. No wonder thp ignores him.

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Sorry, but Munk first turned against me, because of being afraid that his coworker Perl will leave Jolla. He involved whole company in campaign against me. I became Jolla enemy no. 1.

Look at some of people's opinions:
https://twitter.com/pbanaszkiewicz/s...13692555898880

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Stephan, through whole topic you are making false assumptions - multiple accounts/something similar happened between fk_lx and thp etc. etc.

Have you thought for a once, that reality could be completely different? It's the same like someone would assume that your whole life is Jolla and you don't have other, because almost all your tweets are about Jolla. Do you see how ridicolous and unfair such assumptions can be?