Re: [Brainstorm][Maybe the real one?] Maemo Community Device
 

Actually using a community port SFOS will make development easier - the device just needs to ship with non-GMS certified Android and done.

But is the community SFOS really what we want? IMHO it's quite far from a true Linux OS, and has too many components controlled by Jolla.

On the other hand, GPD Win doesn't have any Cellular functionality, which will make a huge difference, regarding Hardware (Soc, modem, RF, Antenna) and software (certification, tuning, adaptation) so it's not really comparable. For that price if you want cellular network, the specs will be much lower.


Graphic system comes with the SoC.

Tizen is not what we want I believe.

Nemo is a good option if that is in "product" standard.

Re: [Brainstorm][Maybe the real one?] Maemo Community Device
 

There is a clear difference between a professional design/prototype/testing/mounding/SMT/manufacturing/quality control team, and a one man product. (I have really no offence to Dirk, in fact given the man power he has done an amazing job)

It will be a commercial product from product lines, which means it will match certain requirement before if leaves the factory. It's won't be 3D printed and will have all the userability and functions tested. If we build a device, this needs to be professional.

If we can manage to find 3000 Pichlo on this planet and we will have a really nice device that can last for a long time!

Re: [Brainstorm][Maybe the real one?] Maemo Community Device
 

Android without Google services feels like a sane option for further software adaptation if it's going to be libhybris-based. Nemo Mobile can be used to replace Sailfish OS proprietary components, but it's far from product quality.

And yes, I understand the difference. GPD Win is relatively high tier due to x7-Z8750 chipset, so there can be some space here.

Re: [Brainstorm][Maybe the real one?] Maemo Community Device
 

So if that would ever come true you should have one more (not exactly a 'pichlo' but a customer ;)).

Re: [Brainstorm][Maybe the real one?] Maemo Community Device
 

If you ever did have a consumer base of 3000 pichlo, you would probably spend your whole budget on customer relations and not achieve very much :p

Re: [Brainstorm][Maybe the real one?] Maemo Community Device
 

So you need to find $1.5million (USD) to get this off the ground?

Re: [Brainstorm][Maybe the real one?] Maemo Community Device
 

Not true. Pichlo was not the one who demanded changes before the project even started :p

Re: [Brainstorm][Maybe the real one?] Maemo Community Device
 

Android without GMS is definitely an option, to me it has following advs:

- Lower the overall cost as there will be almost no front work
- Easier warranty management and law requirement as all the basic function works by default (with Android)
- Lower maintanance cost

If there is not enough upfront funding this will be a good option.

However, the initial idea is to have a "powered by Maemo" device, as a successor to N900/Neo900 and this is against original intention...

Re: [Brainstorm][Maybe the real one?] Maemo Community Device
 

The main issue i see with a "powered by Maemo" device is that Fremantle doesn't seem to be in a particularly good state to port it to anything vaguely recent.

Then of course there is the number of people willing to kickstart an effort, is there 3000+ people willing a pre-order a device with Maemo?

Doing an Android device is certainly a compromise, but then you can get people on board who actually want a keyboard Android device, which you might be able to find reasonable numbers of.

Re: [Brainstorm][Maybe the real one?] Maemo Community Device
 

In short, it may not be 1.5M but similar amount will be needed.

Excluding all the R&D cost, certification etc..... To buy the components, manufacturing and have extra parts/device stock for warranty purpose will cost the most of the above funds.

R&D and moulding won't be cheap. Certification won't be cheap.

I don't know what is your definition of getting off the ground. If that means concept design or deliver some high quality legal commercial product to the hand.