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What, that the iPhone SDK targets a very specific and limited set of devices, and the Android SDK targets nothing and everything at the same time? :p

Quite the perspective. . . .

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Until it is used on actual phones it is just another platform. A very promising one nonetheless. The number of downloads seems to affirm that.

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All I have to say I "hahahahaha"

http://www.tuaw.com/2008/03/14/iphon...-mass-mailing/

Even the willingness to cough up $99/year may not be enough to develop for the iPhone since Apple still have at accept your application.

Re: iPhone and iPod Touch SDK is amazing... Wow.
 

Well, in its own way, I guess that is sort of "Wow" and "Amazing"!

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It can be better. Since all apps will be reviewed individually you can pay $99 and got all your programs rejected :)

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But you should still be able to load your own phone with rejected apps, I think... but this is Apple.

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It's interesting how many people ***** about the iphone in general and Apple's ways of propelling the iphone to commercial success (which in turn will make a sizeable userbase, which makes it an attractive platform for developers, which will make it a thriving platform which in turn benefits the user, etc, etc, etc).

Can anyone quote me a successful completely free and open platform with sizeable userbase which everyone seems to be clamoring about? Does such thing exist?

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I think most Linux servers are similar. Sizable userbase being the companies that rely on said servers (and the developers being the ones who develop things for companies to use on said server).

Then again it isn't free (companies have to buy usually the hardware that it's ran on). Though neither is Apple for that matter (it's even less free).

Though really what benefit is there for us? Of course we rather see open things succeed (whether it be a NIT, Google Android, whatever, it benefits us compared to close sourced code that you'd only be able to run on Apple hardware). Compared to closed source code we'd never be privy too and if we wanted to use it, we'd have to use an Apple whatever.

So the only benefit is for those inside the loop. For those who don't like the loop to begin with, there is no benefit.

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firefox, linux, android well waiting to see success on that but everyones clamoring about it :P

Re: iPhone and iPod Touch SDK is amazing... Wow.
 

you forgot openoffice. i think its under GPL3 now...

on that note, firefox is still under that mozilla license, no?

still, i guess it depends on what one put into the word free, freedom or beer ;)

Re: iPhone and iPod Touch SDK is amazing... Wow.
 

firefox is gpl, mozilla license is for binary releases not the source code.

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:rolleyes:
GPL would prohibit releases under a different license; IIRC, parts are LGPL, others are MPL.

Re: iPhone and iPod Touch SDK is amazing... Wow.
 

GPL does not prohibit releases under different licenses, only copyright does, but if you hold the copyright to the code you can release it under any license you like like mysql its both gpl and commerically licensed.

Parts don't have individual licenses the whole thing is tri licensed.

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True, in a pedantic way; what I was referring to is contributions to the GPLed source, presumably themselves licensed GPL only, could not then be distributed under another license. Should have been more precise...

You may be right here; I was remembering from the old days of Mozilla, not Firefox; maybe I shouldn't post contradictions at 0100. ;)

Still, if anyone has references close to hand regarding FF licenses, they'd be welcome.

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yep contributors code can't just be taken, but in mysqls case contributors to have their code accepted must agree to give them rights to the code Mozilla probably does things a similar way.

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http://www.tuaw.com/2008/03/17/craig...-backgrounding

One legitimate reason to prohibit background apps is the fact that the battery on the iPhone sucks. A single running background app doing a small amount of processing every 5 minutes drained the battery in 4 hours. The only way to not incur this penalty is to immediately sleep the phone after doing work and use a wake up alarm to schedule the next activity.

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and this they want to use as a work phone? should be interesting ;)

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here is an article with a good synopsis of lots that is bad about the iphone sdk
http://zbowling.com/blog/2008/03/14/...ram-is-a-joke/

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Most heavy lifting phones are in the same boat, even my blackberry battery life was severely hampered (read: halved) by running AIM in the background.

The ones that do ok running for 2 days are usually 200mhz omaps. Wireless data is fairly expensive battery wise... I've found that using Wifi resulted on longer browse times on my iPhone. If I just do a few phone calls, check email and browse for a few hours the phone goes 2 days. As soon as I browse via EDGE it dies in 1 day.

I'm not defending it, just sharing my experience.

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Strange, wifi is normally more power hungry then gsm...

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Could be the processor spending more time rendering and the screen being up for longer (waiting for the slow page to load) that kills the battery. I know setting my phone to check email every hour hasn't really affected the battery life.

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Well, every hour is nothing like 5 minutes... ;)

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Hah, yes... I've been tempted to pickup an iPod Touch so I can burn the battery on movies / music all day

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Well I just got back from the Apple store. My iPhone was crashing even after I did a couple of restores on it.

I walked in, told the Mac Genius my problem and he handed me a new iPhone in 5 minutes. That's the way to treat a customer :) It's all shiny again, I miss my scratches..

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now thats a easy way to "fix" the problem. dont need to be much of genious to do it that way ;)

btw, what about any data you had on it? or do they take for granted that their customers sync with the itunes mothership each day?

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And i thought this thread died for good already...

Re: iPhone and iPod Touch SDK is amazing... Wow.
 

No it won't... it just keep morphing into any other subject, other than the title... :(

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It will devour the internet at the end if it goes like that :)

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You mean over here? :)

Re: iPhone and iPod Touch SDK is amazing... Wow.
 

Naa, right before that :)

Re: iPhone and iPod Touch SDK is amazing... Wow.
 

lol i about died from laughter... i just didn't feel like starting a new thread. you are all my favorite anonymous people!

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also, lets see if we can reach 25 pages.

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No, this thread shouldn't be reanimated until the first crop of SDK-created apps hit the market in June\July :)

Zzzzz

Re: iPhone and iPod Touch SDK is amazing... Wow.
 

actually as I recall, an iTouch was a keyboard made by Logitech in the late 90s. ;)

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I agree with ysss. Wake me up when this is more than mostly speculation. :p

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Exactly... I still have that particular keyboard and it is in everyday use! :eek:

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True indeed, but mine died, and I had forgotten it.

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I did a search for something entirely different and the search engine somehow brought me to this thread. Reads kinda funny nowadays. The App Store did come with a bang, and developers did join the band wagon, and Nokia (kinda) lagged behind.

Just food for thought: what would you do if you were in charge of Nokia's business strategy today and you were with the mission to change the landscape for app development for Nokia's high-end devices?

Dump Symbian altogether? Fund developers to build cool apps from your own pocket? Go to the community and give it hard cash? Something a little (or entirely) different?