Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 

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Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 

Well I get the endless reboot. So I went to reflash but since I used my original Nokia cable on my mini keyboard I tried the DealExtreme 'copy'. The upgrade wizard and Windows says it doesn't recognise it. So I guess that's it!
What is special in the Nokia cable that is missing from the DX copy? Anyone have a clue?

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 

This update went seamless for my N810...It also fixed the email app (modest?) I now get led flash with new emails :)

Re: welcome to a new update all diablo os2008 users!
 

me too!:o, i have to re-clone my system to my Internal MMC

Re: welcome to a new update all diablo os2008 users!
 

Uh, your system is still there. You don't have to clone anything. Just reflash fanoush's initfs.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 

Hmm my n800 doesn't even detect the update (even with a forced refresh).

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 

Did you remove osso-software-version? . . .

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 

I agree.
Personally, no issues on my update (mid-evening EST). But its just interesting that so many have had an issue. One cannot account for all variances, and that's just the stake. You get the factory fresh and the first (or second if you have the time) standard devations to work and the rest get worked on along the way.

That's what, 2 months between SSU updates? Think I might be able to set my calendar by this ;) ?

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 

Obviously, there is a disproportionate amount of failure here. For most people, if it works, its works. If it causes a major malfunction, ask for help.

Somehow I could not find the SSU, but I needed to reflash anyway, so I did. Is rotation being worked on for the new kernel, or does it already work?

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 

The patch should already work, but AFAIK noone's built the new kernel with the rotation patch.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 

I've got infinite reboot loop after first restart.
Had to flash device and then install first then second ssu update.
I admit faster browser - zooming on most pages is almost 'realtime'... maybe not that fast but without to unnecessary delay.

Re: welcome to a new update all diablo os2008 users!
 

thanks a lot , you know, i am not so familiar with the procedure to reflashing initfs, could you give me a clue how to do that?
then i dont need to the stupid re-cloning work when the next upgrading come? thanks

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 

Just for reference, everything worked fine on this n800. I did turn on dpkg logging just in case, and I'll leave it for all future upgrades. We'll see if any other bugs are fixed.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 

I also encountered the endless reboot loop... :(

Previous SSU's did work without a glitch, but this time it didn't. I don't think I have anything "strange" installed on my tablet. Certainly nothing on the "list of 5" things mentioned earlier in this thread.

I'm right now traveling and didn't take the USB cable with me. Luckily the hotel I'm staying have miscellaneous chargers and cables, and they happened to have the Nokia Micro-USB cable... so I was able to reflash using my work laptop. After reflashing the SSU updates worked fine.

To think something positive... I was planning to do a fresh flash anyway to get a clean (no restore backup) install. Now I got a good excuse to do it... :rolleyes:

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 

Quick question: can someone take a video of the new browser in action on a site like slashdot.org and put it on youtube or something? My straight 2008 OS n800 won't even scroll properly in some sites like slashdot and engadget, it just uses 100% cpu doing nothing.

Just wondering if it's worth it to nuke my n800 and put diablo+this update on it over the weekend.

Thanks much!

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 

I had that problem too, but before then, I had to get the update to work at all, which broke in exactly the same way as the previous update. Also, my n800 ran noticeably more slowly after that update, which was very disappointing.

My n800 installed the update but failed to update the product code (just as it did last big update). I checked my sources.list, as before, and found that the update repo was incorrect, changed it manually and did an apt-get update/upgrade/dist-upgrade.

My /etc/apt/sources/list.d/hildon-application-manager.list looks like this:
deb http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/certified/ diablo user
deb http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/certified/ diablo user
deb http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/non-certified/ diablo user
deb http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/non-certified/ diablo user
deb http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/updates/diablo/ ./
deb http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/updates/diablo-1/ ./
deb http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/updates/diablo-2/ ./

Then, because I'd deleted stuff out of MyDocs, and put links there to the internal mmc card, the document package didn't work, I had to remove the links and re-create the dirs and put some dummy files in. Finally, the packages installed and dpkg-reconfigure worked, and I was upgraded.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 

No issues here - updated sd, rebooted, updated flash, rebooted and ran initfs-flasher with the bootmenu.conf backup... Totally seamless :)

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 

It's not an impression, rendering is definitely different, though not improved for all kinds of pages.

On the webmail I use at work for example (Horde/IMP variant), the somewhat HTML-heavy Inbox page used to load slowly but progressively, with visible activity on screen and the progress bar.

Now it "loads" an almost empty page immediately, and stays there for a long time (probably same as before), but with nothing visible happening whatsoever. The first couple of times I thought it was hanged and reloaded. But if I just wait, after a while the entire page just appears all at once.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 

I reflashed, but I now get 2 Web icons and an Applications icon. Since I had no use of it, I removed the Contacts icon in the past, using the Control panel, and it seems that the new OS version doesn't like that.

Edit: This was just due to the fact that Personal Menu wasn't installed yet.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 

@thecubed: The actual problem is that Slashdot got too darn heavy these days. It loads 720KB page (600KB from the browser cache) for 21 seconds on a normal Pentium 4 / 2GHz. But that's not all - then some javascript runs for +30 seconds on the same machine. If you just leave your tablet and cancel the js warnings it will load at the end and will be easily browsable. Even Webkit chokes on Slashdot (though is faster than MicroB) - check my Tear browser if you want to see for yourself.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 

Really? For me not.
Do you use POP3 or IMAP ?
For POP3 it works for me... for IMAP not.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 

just done the upgrade, even left the tablet hooked to the mains charger...
reboot , all fine except from some standard applets re-enabled but that not a issue.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 

Bought 3 DX cables, only two work.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 

I skeptically updated last night, and voila, i am now running 2008.36-5 on my N800. Update went without any issue. My only annoyance so far is that the RSS feed applet still doesn't update as it did under Chinook. Browser speed increase? Not sure I see what others, including Texrat have reported - my GMail still loads the AJAX site in about 30 seconds - no different than before.

Re: welcome to a new update all diablo os2008 users!
 

Nope, mine still randomly silently crashes and I have to reboot the device to open the program and check my mail. I just LOVE that! The main reason I bought this unit is to keep tabs on my e-mail. It worked pre-diablo flawlessly, and now, even after two useless updates later doesn't. Oh yea, I keep forgetting, we're talking about software developers (oops, EXCUSE ME, "engineers") here. Perhaps by Christmas, 2010

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 

It would be interesting to have a site poll under this subject regarding the success or failure rate of this (or any) software update.

If the poll software used by ITT would allow followup questions on what potential "unofficial troublemakers" (e.g. the usual clonings and bootmanagers etc. plus a few apps like Mapper and OMweather with some history of issues) have been installed, it might help the Maemo and Nokia folks figure out if something could be done to make the "Seamless" Software Updates smoother yet.

Also, wouldn't it be practical to expose these large "SSU" bundles to the larger non-Nokia developer community at least a few days prior to their official release? That way some third party packages could be also updated for compatibility with the "SSU"?

Personally I find cloning to SD and using boot menu to be extremely useful and productive third party enhancements, but I'm resigned to having to give up the "Seamlessness" in Software Updates in order to be able to enjoy that (booting and speed) flexibility. Yet this now common SSU procedure could be a little less worrysome.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 

just for the record, i had omweather installed, and i had no issues with the update...

Re: welcome to a new update all diablo os2008 users!
 

If you haven't already, you might try opening X Terminal and entering "killall modest" instead of rebooting.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 

I got this one, too. It won't reboot on it's own. Apparently this breakage pretty early on so your (dual/SD booting) initfs is still there, so you should be able boot your other maemo/Debian/whatever. You DO have dual boot, right ? :) I'll check later if this is salvageable or if it's simpler just to reflash/restore.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 

I got the notification in Application Mangler about the new upgrade yesterday. When I clicked it to start the upgrade, I got an error saying it couldn't continue because libsofia-sip-ua-0osso5 was needed. I was already in red-pill, so I checked installed packages and it was in fact installed. However, I thought, I'll just reinstall it. I exited Mangler, dropped to a terminal and became root. Then I did an 'apt-get install libsofia-sip-ua'. apt-get came back with a huge list of files to be upgraded. It was, in fact, the same files that were part of the OS2008 update. Cool. I let it upgrade. After all was said and done, all of those files updated my N800. However, every time I go into Application Mangler it still says I need to update OS2008, but it won't let me. Control Panel -> About product says I'm still at 4.2008.30-2, so I guess the upgrade isn't there, yet.

Must be time to reflash....again.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 

That might help, but then, every time Nokia has released an item for early testing, there's a surprisingly large outcry in these fora from people who can't believe Nokia would release beta quality software with bugs in.

I blame Google humanity.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 

Do you (and Texrat) reckon that the above-mentioned "disadvantage" outweighs the potential advantages?

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 

This has to be the least seamless update I've done yet on my N800. Failed update, reboot loop, battery out, reflash, two further updates, reinstall packages.

Not good.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 

Couple of data points on my N800 install yesterday. Hope it's useful because this is my first experience with either Chinook or Diablo, it was as vanilla as possible and might help explain the 24 hour theory on SSUs.

Yesterday I finally decided to flash to Diablo. I had been waiting for a downloadable update from 23-14. When that didn't come, I decided to go for it anyway. Started about noon.

First attempt interrupted a couple of seconds in and got into an infinite boot loop. I panicked but pulled the battery and was able to go back into the flashing boot state. Next attempt worked fine.

First thing I did was update the catalogs. It immediately found 30-2, which I accepted. Checked a few things and went about reinstalling apps. All normal repositories -- no Chinook.

Everything installed fine, except I couldn't update Python nor install Canola. Camera automatically fired off internet chat and rotated properly.

About 15 minutes in, I got the flashing I telling me another update was available. I had no idea that it existed. Went to 36-5. That went OK except it didn't auto start after the reboot shutdown. Had to hit the power button myself.

Still fine. Then I installed Maemo Mapper from Chinook Extras. No problem.

I still can't update Python nor install Canola. Maemo Mapper was working fine but it locked up on me once and I had to pull the battery.

In limited testing the only thing 36-5 appears to have broken is Camera. It works, but popping it out no longer starts internet chat and it doesn't auto-rotate anymore. The camera thing is weird because others in this thread have said it fixed theirs. Hope the next SSU fixes it for me.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 

It seems to have so far.

Some people want early releases, but then they want to flame Nokia over issues with those releases rather than contribute productively toward resolutions. Damned if we do, damned if we don't. You don't want any more of my opinion on that subject.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 

No problems with this latest upgrade. Had problems with the first SSU when it was released.
N800

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 

I boot from SD and the update never showed up in my Application Manager. I did an app-get upgrade as root and the upgrade appeared to run ok, but I had to reboot manually. The dual boot menu was still there, so I booted back into SD. The version was still showing 4.2008.30-2 but, as wa2vla described, all the other changes were there. I then booted to flash memory and did the upgrade there (which was showing in the app manager). It rebooted to flash and the version was the new one. I reflashed fanoush's new initfs and booted to SD. Now the SD version was updated to 4.2008.36-5.

So I assume the SD is really running the new version???
Why didn't it update the SD version # until after I upgraded the flash version?
Why didn't the upgrade ever show up in the Application Manager when booted to SD?

Re: welcome to a new update all diablo os2008 users!
 

Please, keep this in mind when you're going to (heavily) modify your tablet. You install unofficial software not supported by Nokia. This is even mentioned in the disclaimer.

And my tablet is hardly modified (right now after freshflash :D).

But I have a problem in MicroB. I wanted to see what Gecko version the new MicroB has (answer: 20080828) and went to http://mybrowserinfo.com and then I wanted to select the browser string by selecting it with stylus. Doesn't work. I can't seem to select text. Ctrl+A does work though, but then it selects all text.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 

Had no problems with the update, nothing special done to my tablet though. Still getting browser unsupported messages which is disappointing.

Re: Seamless Software Upgrade v4.2008.36-5 is out!
 

And people who provide a package like sliderotate have to be encouraged to state the disadvantages in relation to SSU, and provide an easy way to fix the problem. Last SSU we also saw in threads people with the very same issue... why now again? Something is wrong in the communication process!