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VDVsx 2009-01-03 11:51

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phutterman (Post 254187)
This appeared in my Mac directions post above, but is (I think) worth re-asking:

Is it normal/expected behavior that the N810 hard keyboard doesn't work when the program is in the mouse mode?

Yes. the current version of BlueMaemo only support the HW keyboard in the keyboard profile, I will add this feature in the new release.
Thanks for your suggestion.

phutterman 2009-01-05 05:18

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Excellent, that's great to hear. Thanks for making such a cool program, and for being so responsive to the community!

arashed31 2009-01-05 05:47

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this program runs almost perfectly. great user interface too. Works in Vista with Microsoft BT. The only thing i don't like is having to re-add the tablet every time i want to connect.

dcolak 2009-01-07 16:07

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Any news regarding PS3 support?

If you need help, I'm here! It would be spectacular to be able to browse internet, chat on PS3 using N810 :)

VDVsx 2009-01-07 18:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dcolak (Post 255167)
Any news regarding PS3 support?

If you need help, I'm here! It would be spectacular to be able to browse internet, chat on PS3 using N810 :)

Same answer:

I'm full of university assignments :( . I only have some spare time to work in BlueMaemo in the beginning of February.

Best regards,

astrogirl 2009-01-21 00:13

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hey, just so you know, another person interested in getting the n810 working as a bluetooth keyboard for the ps3 :) bluemaemo is the most promising app i've seen for this so far! good luck with the assignments :) cheers!

astrogirl 2009-01-25 15:56

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hello :)

i'm not sure if anyone has actually paired their n810 with their ps3 before, but i just installed bluemaemo and thought i would try it out.

the two paired fine, and the direction buttons all work, the mouse works, and the enter key is the X button. the keyboard (vitrual and hardware ones) work fine as a keyboard, for example i was able to write a message to a friend.

the only buttons that could do with keys are the triangle one for extras menu, and the circle button to go back.

i just wondered how easy it would be to find the command for this (i tried the keyboard to see if other keys done something, but apparently not) and whether it would be easy enough to add it in.

thanks anyways, the keyboard is much more useful than using a controller :)

cheers!

tso 2009-01-25 15:58

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a quick google turned up this:

http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=49416

astrogirl 2009-01-25 16:05

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ah, so the back key is circle then, cheers :) just triangle that's left then

tso 2009-01-25 16:08

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i dont own a ps3 so i cant check, but that last post in the thread i linked to seems to indicate that one can change or check things in the ps3's keyboard settings.

astrogirl 2009-01-25 16:19

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hmm, you can access the keyboard settings in an accessories menu, and the only options related to the keyboard is to set the keyboards language, repeat interval, and then manage the bluetooth devices. doesn't seem to be anywhere that you can access key information.

the link also said something about triangle being f1, but i don't seem to be able to assign f1 to the game controller in maemo (by typing f then 1), and the ps3 doesn't recognise it either. 'spose it can wait till the function keys are included in the virtual keyboard :)

astrogirl 2009-01-25 16:22

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oh, ignore my last post, i just tried the mouse function some more, and triangle appears to be the *right mouse button :) awesome.

*edit*

i assume that there aren't key values that are equal to the virtual mouse buttons? a useful feature would be the ability to assign mouse buttons as well as keys to the game controller :)

thanks a lot!

astrogirl 2009-01-25 16:33

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oh, and thought i should add that square is the backspace key, since this is what it is used as when writing messages with the controller.

also, it has probably been mentioned before, but i assume that the n810 hardware keyboard cannot use the function key to use numbers and things?

VDVsx 2009-01-25 18:31

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by astrogirl (Post 259799)
hello :)

i'm not sure if anyone has actually paired their n810 with their ps3 before, but i just installed bluemaemo and thought i would try it out.

the two paired fine, and the direction buttons all work, the mouse works, and the enter key is the X button. the keyboard (vitrual and hardware ones) work fine as a keyboard, for example i was able to write a message to a friend.

the only buttons that could do with keys are the triangle one for extras menu, and the circle button to go back.

i just wondered how easy it would be to find the command for this (i tried the keyboard to see if other keys done something, but apparently not) and whether it would be easy enough to add it in.

thanks anyways, the keyboard is much more useful than using a controller :)

cheers!

Good news, a lot of people tried to pair BlueMaemo with PS3 and none of them had success :)
Can you describe the steps that you did for the pairing ?

Best regards,

VDVsx 2009-01-25 18:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by astrogirl (Post 259808)
oh, and thought i should add that square is the backspace key, since this is what it is used as when writing messages with the controller.

also, it has probably been mentioned before, but i assume that the n810 hardware keyboard cannot use the function key to use numbers and things?

In Linux/Windows the FN key of the HW keyboard works fine.

BlueMaemo have a empty profile right now, probably I can make a Ps3 profile there :)

astrogirl 2009-01-26 07:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 259818)
Good news, a lot of people tried to pair BlueMaemo with PS3 and none of them had success :)
Can you describe the steps that you did for the pairing ?

Best regards,

The steps I do to pair are:

On the PS3 go to the menu Settings > Accessory Settings > Manage Bluetooth Devices.
Press Register New Device and Start Scanning

On the n810 I make sure bluetooth is on and open bluemaemo.

The PS3 will as to enter a key which i typed into the n810.
It then gives a message that they are now connected (the n810 just says "Connected to:", as in the ps3 does not have a name)

To use the most keys (including direction buttons) you have to be on the keyboard profile or assign them in the game controller.

To use the triangle button you have to be on the mouse profile.

The buttons are:
Triangle: Right mouse button
Square: backspace
Cross: enter
Circle: Escape (back button)

astrogirl 2009-01-26 07:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 259820)
In Linux/Windows the FN key of the HW keyboard works fine.

BlueMaemo have a empty profile right now, probably I can make a Ps3 profile there :)

Ah, I was using the function key as I would normally with the n810. It does work when you are holding it down and pressing a key, like the shift key.

Thanks :)

pycage 2009-01-26 08:22

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This is a really great application! :D

But I miss the ability to bind keys that are not present on the tablet, e.g. F12.
I also don't like that tapping on the mouse area gets interpreted at a button press. It's too easy to accidentally click when you want to move the pointer.

VDVsx 2009-01-26 09:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pycage (Post 259930)
This is a really great application! :D

But I miss the ability to bind keys that are not present on the tablet, e.g. F12.

In progress... :)
Quote:

Originally Posted by pycage (Post 259930)
I also don't like that tapping on the mouse area gets interpreted at a button press. It's too easy to accidentally click when you want to move the pointer.

Other users love this functionality :)

El Amir 2009-02-10 02:33

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Im just waiting for the ability to connect directly from the PC instead of having to set up a connection from the tablet :D

Benson 2009-02-10 06:13

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Now for me, I want the connection all from the tablet side, since I must have the tablet in my hands (to control the computer with it), but may have the computer's mouse and keyboard out of the way.

pycage 2009-02-10 06:57

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This is the perfect tool for maintenance work on my HTPC (e.g. reboot). No more need for keyboard and mouse in my living room. :)

Ghostface 2009-02-12 11:16

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pretty cool - did anyone try it with their ps3 yet ? I gave it a brief try but it didn't appear to work.

VDVsx 2009-02-12 11:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghostface (Post 263931)
pretty cool - did anyone try it with their ps3 yet ? I gave it a brief try but it didn't appear to work.

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...&postcount=216

Best regards,

astrogirl 2009-02-12 17:54

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by astrogirl (Post 259925)
The steps I do to pair are:

On the PS3 go to the menu Settings > Accessory Settings > Manage Bluetooth Devices.
Press Register New Device and Start Scanning

On the n810 I make sure bluetooth is on and open bluemaemo.

The PS3 will as to enter a key which i typed into the n810.
It then gives a message that they are now connected (the n810 just says "Connected to:", as in the ps3 does not have a name)

To use the most keys (including direction buttons) you have to be on the keyboard profile or assign them in the game controller.

To use the triangle button you have to be on the mouse profile.

The buttons are:
Triangle: Right mouse button
Square: backspace
Cross: enter
Circle: Escape (back button)


oh, also. i added a youtube video of setting it up if anyone wants to see. apologise for the bad quality though, it was a rushed effort...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8bMNEHVBxE

Ghostface 2009-02-14 13:41

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Thanks for the trackback I have to admit that I didn't read every post from this thread :)

diE_sohlE 2009-02-15 16:05

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Really great affords!

I use BlueMeamo with Mac Os X 10.5.6. Connecting and all main functions are working fine.
Because I am using a Mac i would appriciate it so much if it would be possible to use the 'Command' key somehow. Nearly every program uses it for global shortcuts. Local shortcuts (when a program is in focus) can be changed easily (sometimes, not in every program, i.e. quicktime, because they are not available via the program menu).

Anybody out there who knows how to use the 'Command' key via the tablet?

VDVsx 2009-02-15 16:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diE_sohlE (Post 264674)
Really great affords!

I use BlueMeamo with Mac Os X 10.5.6. Connecting and all main functions are working fine.
Because I am using a Mac i would appriciate it so much if it would be possible to use the 'Command' key somehow. Nearly every program uses it for global shortcuts. Local shortcuts (when a program is in focus) can be changed easily (sometimes, not in every program, i.e. quicktime, because they are not available via the program menu).

Anybody out there who knows how to use the 'Command' key via the tablet?

And you need also the CRTL key ?
I can make a option to change CTRL to CMD in the program.

Best regards,

diE_sohlE 2009-02-15 16:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 264675)
And you need also the CRTL key ?
I can make a option to change CTRL to CMD in the program.

Well, I think for Mac users the Command key is more important. ;) Both keys would be even better. :P

One think that I remarked just a few seconds ago:
I tried using a tablet with english and german keyboard layout. My Mac has a german layout.
When I use the HW keyboard on the tablet every key is working as it should, expect the combinations with FN (i.e. '(' or '='). They are totally messed up and show up on the wrong press of a key combination. The same problem occures when using the SW keyboard.

VDVsx 2009-02-15 16:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by diE_sohlE (Post 264677)
One think that I remarked just a few seconds ago:
I tried using a tablet with english and german keyboard layout. My Mac has a german layout.
When I use the HW keyboard on the tablet every key is working as it should, expect the combinations with FN (i.e. '(' or '='). They are totally messed up and show up on the wrong press of a key combination. The same problem occures when using the SW keyboard.

Only the English layout is supported at this time:(

pelago 2009-02-15 21:30

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Great program, and useful for my HTPC. I look forward to future releases. Will we be able to create our own layouts in the future?

Thesandlord 2009-02-16 03:24

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Hey guys.

Why cant the N810 keyboard work while in mouse mode? This would be awesome.

Also, until BlueMaemo can automatically connect with the PC, here is a little script I wrote to automate the process.

Only tested on Windows Vista. Will probably only work with Microsoft Stack.

You just need to supply your tablets bluetooth name. If you use autoit, you can hard code this in.

I am just a modder, so this is a hacked together GUI script. Really hacked. I do stupid things like check the color of the "next" box in order to know if the search is finished and stuff. But it does work (for me).

VDVsx 2009-02-16 10:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pelago (Post 264714)
Great program, and useful for my HTPC. I look forward to future releases. Will we be able to create our own layouts in the future?

Maybe :)
First I have to correct some bugs and implement the reconnection feature (really tricky:( ).

VDVsx 2009-02-16 10:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Thesandlord (Post 264754)
Hey guys.

Why cant the N810 keyboard work while in mouse mode? This would be awesome.

Already implemented in the SVN.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thesandlord (Post 264754)
Also, until BlueMaemo can automatically connect with the PC, here is a little script I wrote to automate the process.

Only tested on Windows Vista. Will probably only work with Microsoft Stack.

You just need to supply your tablets bluetooth name. If you use autoit, you can hard code this in.

I am just a modder, so this is a hacked together GUI script. Really hacked. I do stupid things like check the color of the "next" box in order to know if the search is finished and stuff. But it does work (for me).

Will be useful for some users :). Thanks

El Amir 2009-02-17 13:18

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When is the new update for then ? :D

VDVsx 2009-02-17 13:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by El Amir (Post 265093)
When is the new update for then ? :D

I already made the reconnection function (tested only in Linux, but should work for others), but is only 'hardcoded' now, no GUI.I've planned release a new version of BlueMaemo this week, but some unexpected work appears and I can't do anything until Friday, maybe in the weekend/begin of next week a new version appear :)

ChangeLog of the SVN version:

* Added space key map to the profiles;
* Added method to change bluetooth adapter mode;
* N810 Hardware keyboard support while in mouse profile;
* Major code refactoring - Separated all profiles;
* Reconnection feature - Alpha;

To-Do for v0.2:

* New UI for reconnect

If I'm missing some request that can be done easily tell me :)

tso 2009-02-17 14:13

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woot, looking forward to release :D

fpp 2009-02-17 18:57

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Yup, can't wait either ! :-)

Benson 2009-02-17 19:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 265098)
* N810 Hardware keyboard support while in mouse profile;

Not sure how this is implemented, but assuming it just takes X key events, this would also work with a BT or USB keyboard, right?

VDVsx 2009-02-17 19:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Benson (Post 265176)
Not sure how this is implemented, but assuming it just takes X key events, this would also work with a BT or USB keyboard, right?

Yes, but is only designed for the key combinations of the n810 hw keyboard (E.g. Fn generate "ISO_Level3_Shift"), other keyboards can generate different combinations for non-standard buttons like the Fn key. Shift, CTRL and other should work fine.


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