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Jack6428 2009-09-17 18:48

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
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Originally Posted by joppu (Post 328661)
But I was being serious ;)

Magnetometer can really help if you are navigating on foot.

yea, im really upset it doesnt have it...grr..the only thing i dont like about this phone

qole 2009-09-17 18:56

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A magnetometer would be nice, yes. But your statement was over-the-top. As nice as the N900 is, it isn't "an otherwise perfect phone". There isn't such a device.

joppu 2009-09-17 19:03

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Originally Posted by qole (Post 328668)
A magnetometer would be nice, yes. But your statement was over-the-top. As nice as the N900 is, it isn't "an otherwise perfect phone". There isn't such a device.

I bought my N95 and I skipped
- N96 (carbon-copy of N95-8GB)
- iPhone(s) (Apple's nazism)
- XM8500 (mid-end phone)
- N97 (buggy software, hardware problems, poor GPS etc.)

So, in a sense this will be replacing my N95 and yes, I do consider N900 almost perfect. Only things I'm concerned are the battery life, limited use of portrait mode and lack of magnetometer.

nilchak 2009-09-17 19:07

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 314750)
Has inductive charging been mentioned yet?

And then buy a separate inductive charger for $70 ?

No thank you.

ciaomatteo 2009-09-17 19:08

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And it was just the other day when there was concern over the N95's battery life. Which reminds me, I need to replace mine.

qole 2009-09-17 19:12

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You'll all be fine without the magnetometer. Augmented reality would be cool, but seriously, I've never had too much trouble figuring out which way I'm facing when I'm using just a GPS.

There'll be lots of other toys to play with on the N900.

sjgadsby 2009-09-17 19:20

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Originally Posted by joppu (Post 328661)
Magnetometer can really help if you are navigating on foot.

Eh, better not to count on technology. I just remember that the moss grows thickest on the north side of Boy Scouts.

No, that's not right...

ysss 2009-09-17 19:25

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@joppu: just append "FOR ME" whenever you're appraising anything subjective here ;P

IE: The N900 is the perfect phone..... FOR ME!

Ovek 2009-09-17 21:24

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Originally Posted by qole (Post 328683)
You'll all be fine without the magnetometer. Augmented reality would be cool, but seriously, I've never had too much trouble figuring out which way I'm facing when I'm using just a GPS.

There'll be lots of other toys to play with on the N900.

But it's the new "must have!!" bulletpoint on a smartphone's spec sheet ;)

Meh all this augmented reality stuff is pointless anyway that is unless your stalking someone from Twitter using Layar... ahem... and don't get me started on the gimmick of Google street view, I have eyes if i'm stood on the street I need to be on I think I can peel my eyes away from my phone for five seconds to look around.

That being said Google Skymap is cool and in very rare circumstances useful!

R-R 2009-09-17 21:32

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People haven't seen the "stand i a field and get points / distances overlayed on the camera to the next restaurant/shop/whatevet"-demo i guess...

You're not going to be guessing the north in the evening in a random place (no, no moss on the north of city building :P)

nilchak 2009-09-17 21:32

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Originally Posted by qole (Post 328683)
Augmented reality would be cool

You mean cool like sort of this ... ?

http://geekandpoke.typepad.com/.a/6a...584cd91970c-pi

Laughing Man 2009-09-17 21:37

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Originally Posted by R-R (Post 328774)
People haven't seen the "stand i a field and get points / distances overlayed on the camera to the next restaurant/shop/whatevet"-demo i guess...

You're not going to be guessing the north in the evening in a random place (no, no moss on the north of city building :P)

Yeah. That's what I find useful about it. Or the Wiki one. It isn't needed yet and granted you could do it manually (look up info yourself). But it's nice to have that ability.

attila77 2009-09-17 23:12

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Originally Posted by R-R (Post 328774)
You're not going to be guessing the north in the evening in a random place (no, no moss on the north of city building :P)

If you don't see Sun, stars, moss or other boyscout methods, you still have the option of turning the GPS on and start walking. You should have (a rough estimate of) North after walking just 5-10 meters.

R-R 2009-09-17 23:19

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Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 328858)
If you don't see Sun, stars, moss or other boyscout methods, you still have the option of turning the GPS on and start walking. You should have (a rough estimate of) North after walking just 5-10 meters.

But you're missing the point of AR... imagine sitting in a bar and bein able to tag the paintings on the wall or draw an arrow to indicate where the 2nd floor is for the future visit of friends...

qole 2009-09-18 00:24

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No, R-R, you're missing the point. I think we all agree, augmented reality is cool.

But you can figure out which way is which, even on a dark, cloudy night, in a barren, mossless land, without a magnetometer. You really only need the GPS for that.

Saying that the N900's wonderousness is ruined because it doesn't have a compass and therefore cannot perform AR functions is not entirely fair.

By the time AR software has matured enough to be really useful (and not just fun to watch in demos), the next Maemo device, which probably will include a magnetometer, will be on store shelves...

R-R 2009-09-18 00:34

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I agree that I don't need a device when/if I'm lost, at all...

I also agree that the next device should have it and that the current AR software are pretty bleeding eldge...

I never said it was ruining the n900 either, just that i'm very disapointed that a geek targeted device missed the oportunity to give the best target audience for AR the chance to develop news apps for it, giving it an instant advantage over others...

But, eh, step 4/5, it's going to be a great device, everyone is too emotional, i got mine pre-ordered anyway. ^_^

Laughing Man 2009-09-18 00:40

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Originally Posted by qole (Post 328927)
By the time AR software has matured enough to be really useful (and not just fun to watch in demos), the next Maemo device, which probably will include a magnetometer, will be on store shelves...

Haha, maybe I should wait a year. ;)

My masters thesis in Human Factors Psychology that I am going be working on soon (just started the program August 31st) is in Virtual Reality. I also want to study Augmented Reality but I figure start with VR first then work my way there.

nilchak 2009-09-18 00:41

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Originally Posted by qole (Post 328927)
By the time AR software has matured enough to be really useful (and not just fun to watch in demos), the next Maemo device, which probably will include a magnetometer, will be on store shelves...

While in practical terms I agree with that, but principally - aren'\ty you making excuses for it not having a magnetometer NOW ?

Personally I don't care either ways, but yes it does not have a magnetometer for the purposes it could be used for - so there it is.
The fact that the next device will have it is pure conjecture at this point of time (which you also said).

Laughing Man 2009-09-18 01:04

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The other problem with having it in a future device is then we have to pay another 600-700 for it. =P. Unless Nokia offers some trade-in plan (which I wouldn't mind). Or you sell it before it gets to outdated.

qole 2009-09-18 06:20

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Originally Posted by nilchak (Post 328938)
...aren't you making excuses for it not having a magnetometer NOW ?

Nope. Just saying it's not a big deal. Really.

Weird that there's so much upset over a cutting edge feature like AR, and a legacy feature like MMS. I guess it's just emotional talk because everyone's so antsy to get the darned things into their eager hands.

frals 2009-09-18 07:29

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Originally Posted by qole (Post 329047)
Nope. Just saying it's not a big deal. Really.

Weird that there's so much upset over a cutting edge feature like AR, and a legacy feature like MMS. I guess it's just emotional talk because everyone's so antsy to get the darned things into their eager hands.

Or... Users want these features, wheter they are cutting edge or legacy ;-)

attila77 2009-09-18 09:30

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Hey, even if it had those, we'd still be talking about portrait or capacitive (Drink ! Drink !).

range 2009-09-18 10:28

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Originally Posted by qole (Post 328644)
and you use your finger to drag the N around to wherever you want North to be.

Yay, no more trips to the north pole! Have North directly in your front yard!

tomtom 2009-09-18 10:54

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
would be very cool if easter egg was DAB(+) radio... afterall, nokia were toying with the idea a whiles back.

nilchak 2009-09-18 17:31

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Originally Posted by frals (Post 329087)
Or... Users want these features, wheter they are cutting edge or legacy ;-)

I am not so sure users REALLY want those features (and my users I mean majority). I agree with Qole though - it may just be that we review and take to task any new product until we can get our hands on it.

Hey, its the only thing we can do now on the forums - have you seen how fast a churn there is on the Active Topics section on the right hand side ?
I am sure it will slow down a lot once people get time to play with the n900 and less time debating needed and not-so-needed feature lists.

bocaJ 2009-09-18 19:32

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Alright, so this is now 23 pages long, and I'll admit that I might have missed a few posts. That being said, did we get first or second hand confirmation from a Nokia Rep that this doesn't have a digital compass? I bring up hope because this review (http://mobilementalism.com/2009/09/1...martphone-yet/) states:

Quote:

The N900 uses Ovi Maps (formerly Nokia Maps), and its implementation is no different from any other implementation of Nokia's Mapping app. The N900 sports a compass and aGPS, though, and its power ensures that the mapping app is very fast. With all the storage space available, you can also download maps for on-board storage, which is useful if you're out of reach of a data connection.
(emphasis mine)

The review is dated the 14th fwiw.

Laughing Man 2009-09-18 20:02

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It seems the reference to that is accompanied with an image of Ovi Maps. The reviewer could have thought the compass was due to just the picture of a compass in Ovi Maps, but that doesn't mean the presence of a digital compass in the device's hardware.

attila77 2009-09-18 20:07

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
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Originally Posted by bocaJ (Post 329421)
Alright, so this is now 23 pages long, and I'll admit that I might have missed a few posts. That being said, did we get first or second hand confirmation from a Nokia Rep that this doesn't have a digital compass?

We did

Q - Does the N900 have a Digital Compass?
A - No, the N900 does not have a Magnetometer(Digital Compass)

qole 2009-09-18 21:16

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Drink!

(hic!)

MountainX 2009-12-06 21:09

Re: Easter egg in the RX-51?
 
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Originally Posted by joppu (Post 328672)
and I skipped
- iPhone(s) (Apple's nazism)

With the hindsight of history, this has to be the most ironic commercial ever made :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8ji0...om=PL&index=14

Warhamstr 2010-08-29 09:18

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Uh, what was that vid from a wile ago? A Nokia guy shows us a very fast transfer technology by laying a N900 on a basestation, and share a shitload gig's in a few seconds!

Would N900 support USB an BT 3.0??

DeeGee 2010-08-29 10:06

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Well not having seen the video I'm just guessing, but maybe it was special prototype built from n900?

[edit] You mean this? That's pretty old news. http://conversations.nokia.com/2010/...nsfer-concept/

Warhamstr 2010-08-29 16:38

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Oh yes its old news but we can't use that technic at this time! And it's a N900 no doubt bout that!


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