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marekl 2009-12-02 15:12

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 404720)
But there has been an answer: Nokia does not provide to the public the release dates for future firmware updates.

This board is very technical, nothing for BFUs, so developers could tell „Yes, we found a solution yet“ or something like/unlike that, independently of Nokia. Maemo is Linux based platform, so I hope that software development could be more user community oriented.

SubCore 2009-12-02 15:17

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marekl (Post 404946)
This board is very technical, nothing for BFUs, so developers could tell „Yes, we found a solution yet“ or something like/unlike that, independently of Nokia.

what does that have to do with firmware releases?
you do realize that nokia, not the community, creates and releases the firmware?

if someone did find a solution independently (which is unlikely, considering MfE is not open source due to Microsoft's requirements), you would read about it on this forum, but it would not be part of any firmware update.

and if you're talking about nokia employed developers, they are not allowed to communicate such things publicly.

marekl 2009-12-02 15:25

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
I don't know, how it is about firmware updates on Maemo, N900 is my first device on Maemo platform. Somebody answered me that Nokia never tells release dates and I just replied on it,

Let's wait, there is no other opportunity on our users side.

qhorse 2009-12-02 15:41

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Hi Vitalin,

Tx for bringing the MFE for maemo into the spotlights !

I really hope it will be improved in the future so that maemo can be used by business users (corporate phone book, search email, flagging) but I have no doubt seeing how you guys work !

I'll just have to be patient, which is good as the price will drop while I wait :)

sjgadsby 2009-12-02 15:43

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marekl (Post 404946)
This board is very technical, nothing for BFUs, so developers could tell „Yes, we found a solution yet“ or something like/unlike that, independently of Nokia.

That's a bit different than requesting a specific date and is usually provided already. As a general example, please see Bugzilla where Andre often closes bugs with explanations along the lines of:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Designer Impostor of Andre Klapper
This has been fixed in x.y.z. Any public update released with or after this build version will include this fix.

More specifically, if it is Exchange 2003 support for which you want a "we found a solution" post, then vitaly_repin's post that began this thread already provided that:

Quote:

Originally Posted by vitaly_repin (Post 393019)
What about Exchange 2003?
- Wait for sw. update.

If it is Google support that interests you, please vote for (and watch) enhancement request 6343, if you haven't already. Similarly, if you haven't voted on vitaly_repin's poll, please do so.

Quote:

Maemo is Linux based platform, so I hope that software development could be more user community oriented.
Yes, that desire is widespread in the community. Teaching long-time product managers new tricks takes time though, it seems.

jsuggs 2009-12-02 16:33

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
FYI, for the people concerned with the Google integration, check out this thread.

As I see it, the MfE should well...be used more for an actual exchange server and if you need the ability to sync with Google, then you should probably have something specific to that rather than trying to shoehorn features into something that it wasn't intended to actually do.

vitaly_repin 2009-12-02 16:43

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phi (Post 404850)
I did a search for "multiple accounts" on this thread and didn't see anything. Is there going to be support for more than one exchange account?


Check the very first message in this thread :)

vitaly_repin 2009-12-02 16:45

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marekl (Post 404946)
This board is very technical, nothing for BFUs, so developers could tell „Yes, we found a solution yet“ or something like/unlike that

Guys, the only thing I can say is that we are testing our Exchange 2003 implementation right now.

bAxon 2009-12-02 16:52

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vitaly_repin (Post 405256)
Guys, the only thing I can say is that we are testing our Exchange 2003 implementation right now.

While you testing Exchange can you guys also improve performance of Nokia Messaging?

vitaly_repin 2009-12-02 17:05

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bAxon (Post 405288)
While you testing Exchange can you guys also improve performance of Nokia Messaging?

:) We can't. Different team is responsible for this. What are your problems with Nokia Messaging? I can send the corresponding team a link to this thread.

bAxon 2009-12-02 17:08

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vitaly_repin (Post 405338)
:) We can't. Different team is responsible for this. What are your problems with Nokia Messaging? I can send the corresponding team a link to this thread.

here it is:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=35648

vitaly_repin 2009-12-02 18:09

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikec (Post 403289)
Or another way to ask the question, does the N900 support any policies at all?

No. It does not.

kalim13 2009-12-02 19:47

Re: Mail For Exchange ?
 
Any updates as to what i can do to make MfE work.

I tried the certificate option no luck. its becoming a bit of a pain i really want to use the N900 as my only device but the lack of MfE is causing issues.

anyone know of any workaround or is there anyother Email client that may work or is being worked on like Roadsync?

Should another thread be created which only explains how users have managed to make MfE work, literally like

option 1 try XYZ
option 2 try ABC
etc...

retric 2009-12-02 20:01

Re: Mail For Exchange ?
 
I have a strange issue regarding the mail for exchange on my new n900.
I have searched around but could not find anything on this topic.

I set up the mail for exchange account. It looks okay, but when i start up the initial syncronisation it almost finishes the first step. And the it just stops there. No error message or any thing..

The exchange server does not give me any error ether.
In the list of mobile devices on the exchange server it says last sync ok.

The strange thing is that all my calendar items and contacts are after some minutes sync´ed to my n900. So it looks like everything is working but the wizard is not finishing.

I have a nokia e75, e66, e52 and a htc running windows mobile and all these are working fine.
I´m using exchange server 2007.

Anyone else experience this issue or have a work around?

egrims 2009-12-02 20:03

Re: Mail For Exchange ?
 
If your company currently supports OWA then can't you just setup your MfE account using that address and login credentials? I do that on my E71 currently with both MfE and Seven. I don't have my N900 yet so I can't verify but could be something to try?

vitaly_repin 2009-12-02 20:07

Re: Mail For Exchange ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by retric (Post 405747)
I set up the mail for exchange account. It looks okay, but when i start up the initial syncronisation it almost finishes the first step. And the it just stops there. No error message or any thing..

Could you file a bug to https://bugs.maemo.org/ and attach logs?

The procedure to take the logs: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5597#c26


Thank you in advance.

bjoya 2009-12-02 20:38

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Vitaly,

Is it possible to add an option to MfE to accept the certificate anyway just like iPhone MfE client?

vitaly_repin 2009-12-02 20:44

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bjoya (Post 405824)
Vitaly,

Is it possible to add an option to MfE to accept the certificate anyway just like iPhone MfE client?

Personally I like the idea to have this option but I am not sure our security guys will like it.

I will send them the link to your post.

mikec 2009-12-02 21:17

Re: Mail For Exchange ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kalim13 (Post 405713)
Any updates as to what i can do to make MfE work.

I tried the certificate option no luck. its becoming a bit of a pain i really want to use the N900 as my only device but the lack of MfE is causing issues.

anyone know of any workaround or is there anyother Email client that may work or is being worked on like Roadsync?

Should another thread be created which only explains how users have managed to make MfE work, literally like

option 1 try XYZ
option 2 try ABC
etc...

Kalim probably good to say how you are getting access to your corporate exchange servers at the moment. ie are you using MfE on an E90? if so did the E90 pull down a cert on first connect (my E71 does this).

If not where did you get the Cert from in the first place? It sounds like you need to get past getting this Cert installed before N900 MfE will connect to server, as Exchange 2007 needs an encrypted link and thus needs Certs in place

kalim13 2009-12-02 21:32

Re: Mail For Exchange ?
 
MikeC,

I'm still in the process of obtaining the Cert from the exchange admin team.

Yes my E90/MfE is working perfectly fine and i am assuming it pulled down the cert automatically when it first sync'd.

I downloaded the Cert from outlook web acccess although when i save a copy to my PC it doesn't ask what format i would like to save it as.

i guess i have to wait for the admin team to send it to me.

mikec 2009-12-02 23:15

Re: Mail For Exchange ?
 
OK Here is how you get your certificate if you already have exchange working on another device.

1. Get the name of the mail server from your current mobile device. (On Symbian its in the Mail for Exchange "Server" setting).
2. Lets say that this server is "mobileserver.mycompany.co.uk"
3. Use this url in internet explorer address bar like so (adding certserv) https://mobileserver.mycompany.co.uk/certserv

4. You should arrive at the home page of your mail server, and it will say something like "you are about to be redirected to a secure connection to check your identity and credentials"
5. You will notice a padlock at the end of the address bar on IE7.
6. Click the padlock
7. Click "view certificates"
8. Click the "Details" tab
9. You will now see your certifcate details.
10. Click "Copy to File". A Wizard will start up
11. Click "Next"
12. Select the format of your certificate as Base-64-encoded X.509(.CER)
13 Type in the file name you want to save it as leaving off the extension.
14. Click "Next"
15. A nice shiny Certifcate will now be on your computer ready to save to your N900 in what ever means you choose.
16. Use the N900 certificate tool to import the certificate

I dont have N900 so someone else will have to show the steps to import.:D

kalim13 2009-12-03 10:21

Re: Mail For Exchange ?
 
MikeC,

thanks for the steps, i managed to do that last night, transferred the cert to my N900 and installed it. i can now see the cert in cert manager, however, Still cannot sync with MfE. i get the same error.

Rob1n 2009-12-03 10:47

Re: Mail For Exchange ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kalim13 (Post 407097)
i managed to do that last night, transferred the cert to my N900 and installed it. i can now see the cert in cert manager, however, Still cannot sync with MfE. i get the same error.

Is this the "exchange account disabled. access refused" error you posted earlier? That doesn't look to have anything whatsoever to do with certificates - looks to me like either your account doesn't have mobile access enabled, or your Exchange system will not allow non-provisionable devices.

Koarl 2009-12-03 11:09

Re: Mail For Exchange ?
 
hi together,
unfortunately i have the same problem
"Either Exchange server requires secure connection or account is disabled"

our company has exchange server 2007 - allow non-provisionalble devices is enabled.

I got two different certificates and tried to install both of them.

First is from other nokia devices and installation on N900 was no problem but I have still the same error message!

The second certificate is from our website! I'm not able to install ths second certificate on the N900!
I exported it with all possible endings (.crt, .cer, .p7b) and saved them on my N900. When trying to install them there is no "install" button on my n900 as it was before!
When clicking on the certificate just the details have been shown but no possibility to install it!

certificate is also not in the certificate manager!!

would be great to get support!!

Nitchers 2009-12-03 11:19

Re: Mail For Exchange ?
 
After 3 days of no joy i managed to sync my google calendar and contacts. Tried a different method and it worked first time.

SubCore 2009-12-03 11:22

Re: Mail For Exchange ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitchers (Post 407214)
After 3 days of no joy i managed to sync my google calendar and contacts. Tried a different method and it worked first time.

care to elaborate on that "different method"? :)

Nitchers 2009-12-03 11:30

Re: Mail For Exchange ?
 
I have been trying to set up mfe sync with google from the email application on the device (where you would start setting up Nokia Messaging/email accounts).

No joy what so ever. This morning i went to settings and in connectivity i selected mfe and used the same settings i've been using and hey presto done in seconds.

Hope this is clear enough and helps anyone out there.

EDIT

Just added a few entries and synced manually and it works a treat.

Nitchers 2009-12-03 11:39

Re: Mail For Exchange ?
 
Subcore did it work for you?

kalim13 2009-12-03 11:41

Re: Mail For Exchange ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 407160)
Is this the "exchange account disabled. access refused" error you posted earlier? That doesn't look to have anything whatsoever to do with certificates - looks to me like either your account doesn't have mobile access enabled, or your Exchange system will not allow non-provisionable devices.

Hi Robin,

Yes, its the same error "exchange account disabled. access refused"

my account does seem to be enabled as my E90 does work. I asked our Exchange admin and they said my settings are correct so it should work... (i dont know if that means non-provisionable devices is enabled or disabled)

SubCore 2009-12-03 11:46

Re: Mail For Exchange ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitchers (Post 407275)
Subcore did it work for you?

i'm still waiting for my device, i just thought this information might be useful to many.

especially for vitaly, because it sounds like it might be a bug. there should be no difference where you create the account.

vitaly_repin 2009-12-03 11:51

Re: Mail For Exchange ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koarl (Post 407196)
The second certificate is from our website! I'm not able to install ths second certificate on the N900!
I exported it with all possible endings (.crt, .cer, .p7b) and saved them on my N900. When trying to install them there is no "install" button on my n900 as it was before!
When clicking on the certificate just the details have been shown but no possibility to install it!

Most probably it means that no "CA" field is set in the certificate.

Nitchers 2009-12-03 12:30

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Posted this on another thread, hope it helps some out there.

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...8&postcount=59

mikec 2009-12-03 12:36

Re: Mail For Exchange ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kalim13 (Post 407097)
MikeC,

thanks for the steps, i managed to do that last night, transferred the cert to my N900 and installed it. i can now see the cert in cert manager, however, Still cannot sync with MfE. i get the same error.

Did you see hypnotiks comment, sounds like some voodoo in the way you install cert
==================================
Edit: Ok, I don't know what happened, but I actually saved the .pem file to the device first this time before opening the certificate manager (instead of opening the certificate manager directly from the browser) and it seems to have imported it and it works to connect to Exchange. Apparently if you open the cert manager from the browser (by navigating to a .pem file) it doesn't import it correct (even though the cert is listed in certificate manager). So now things are cool.
=========================

Thanks!

5tapl3r 2009-12-03 12:37

Re: Mail For Exchange ?
 
i am having the same problems. the certs installed, but i cannot get mfe to work at all on my device. i believe it is mfe2007.

Koarl 2009-12-03 14:15

Re: Mail For Exchange ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vitaly_repin (Post 407292)
Most probably it means that no "CA" field is set in the certificate.

that means?

phi 2009-12-03 14:15

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vitaly_repin (Post 405246)
Check the very first message in this thread :)

I guess the better question is will there be support for multiple accounts in the future then? :p

SubCore 2009-12-03 14:22

Re: Mail For Exchange ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Koarl (Post 407543)
that means?

"CA" refers to "Certificate Authority".

if this field is not set it means your certificate is not a "public" one, it's not authorized against any of the global providers.

Koarl 2009-12-03 14:32

Re: Mail For Exchange ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SubCore (Post 407555)
"CA" refers to "Certificate Authority".

if this field is not set it means your certificate is not a "public" one, it's not authorized against any of the global providers.

is there a possibility to install such a "non-public" certificate??

vitaly_repin 2009-12-03 14:34

Re: Mail for Exchange (MfE). Blame me here, pls
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phi (Post 407544)
I guess the better question is will there be support for multiple accounts in the future then? :p

Can not communicate the plans, sorry. Marketing takes care of it.

kalim13 2009-12-03 15:10

Re: Mail For Exchange ?
 
[QUOTE=mikec;407374]Did you see hypnotiks comment, sounds like some voodoo in the way you install cert
[QUOTE]

Yep i tried it according to hypnotiks comments and various other methods i could come up with, unfortunately no luck.

as i mentioned when i look in Webmail, in options > Mobile device,

i can see the N900 trying to connect, although all it says is

status : Ok
First sync on: 02/12/09 12:43
Device Id: the N900 Imei number.

however for the Nokia E90 there is additional information
Last successful sync:
User Agent: NokiaE90/2.07 Mail fo exchange.

so the attempt to sync from the N900 did reach the server, however its not able to fully sync.


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