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HRZ 2010-01-12 07:30

Re: OVI STORE is open for business
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 465732)
could it be you're on page 1 and need to click "next" (or whatever it says in your language)? the button is right below the last application, on the right side.

also, when you enter the store, they give you a list of recommendations. this list could be short in theory. (it's long for me.) click on one of the categories in the grey toolbar on top of the page (applications, games,...) to see the full selection.

already tried that :S
clicked on games at the top (not even specific genres, just 'games') and it only showed me solitaire touch......
what the....?

reviver 2010-01-12 07:30

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Angry birds just got its first level pack!!

Argh, something to buy and I am at work. Well I would have work, don't ask why I noticed the update :D

Edit: Well I just had to at least buy it anyway. Payment system seemed easy and everything worked fine. :)

mele 2010-01-12 07:35

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Many of those application and themes seems to be incomplete.

Why eggtimer doesnt have alarm when the time is end?

Some of the texts isnt visible after you install some themes.

ossipena 2010-01-12 07:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mele (Post 465741)
Why eggtimer doesnt have alarm when the time is end?

user error? mine works

are your sounds on?

Veix 2010-01-12 07:43

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Not gonna read through all topic, but one thing noticed.
WordCity theme is gone after switching off the n900. Only wallpaper stays.

adlayingemar 2010-01-12 07:44

Re: OVI STORE is open for business
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HRZ (Post 465736)
already tried that :S
clicked on games at the top (not even specific genres, just 'games') and it only showed me solitaire touch......
what the....?

try to change your region to Canada on the OVI account...

casper27 2010-01-12 07:44

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Just hope were not turning into a bunch of iphoners with all our useless apps. Spirit levels and snowglobes are a good novelty but we need more meaty app like Angry Birds. I heard on another thread that it has been advertised that BBcIplayer and Fifa 2010 are coming. Lets hope it sooner rather than later with the general release round the corner in the UK.
Good start though Nokia interim firmware certainly released alot of free space on device and the browser renders even faster. :-)

chase15 2010-01-12 07:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Veix (Post 465751)
Not gonna read through all topic, but one thing noticed.
WordCity theme is gone after switching off the n900. Only wallpaper stays.

tah.. when u reboot... the theme goes back to original theme... and ur ryt .. only the wallpapers left..

soleil 2010-01-12 08:13

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I just bought Angry Bird pack 1 for 3 euros

twaelti 2010-01-12 08:18

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So did I :-)

RevdKathy 2010-01-12 08:20

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Ovi Store is now working through the 'Ovi' link in your menu. :)

Peter is out drumming up interest from developers.

(And they removed the hot babes :confused: - I was hoping they'd add hot men)

rkm 2010-01-12 08:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by casper27 (Post 465755)
Just hope were not turning into a bunch of iphoners with all our useless apps.

Did someone say fart app? I'm on it ;) *coding*

HRZ 2010-01-12 08:29

Re: OVI STORE is open for business
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by adlayingemar (Post 465754)
try to change your region to Canada on the OVI account...

clever..but unfortunately nothing. :(

RevdKathy 2010-01-12 08:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HRZ (Post 465817)
clever..but unfortunately nothing. :(

You should be able to get through via the Ovi store link now... worth checking your browser cache?

As for value, I find many of those apps pretty and shiny but not actually worth much. Once I've made a mirror ball spin both ways.. do I want to do it again?

Dr. Drips 2010-01-12 08:42

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and now it's official stated in the store's blog : http://blog.ovi.com/

HRZ 2010-01-12 08:45

Re: OVI STORE is open for business
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RevdKathy (Post 465832)
You should be able to get through via the Ovi store link now... worth checking your browser cache?

As for value, I find many of those apps pretty and shiny but not actually worth much. Once I've made a mirror ball spin both ways.. do I want to do it again?

still nothing. neither through app manager nor through N900 browser NOR through my PC browser!!! what is going on here? I can only see those 6 mentioned before. it's driving me crazy.

RevdKathy 2010-01-12 08:52

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Ouch! You don't want to go posting your phone number!

using your n900 try:

Open menu and click 'Ovi' symbol

or

Open browser and enter http:// store.ovi.com/mobile

Using your pc go to

http://store.ovi.com/ and choose 'where's my mobile' The n900 is third row from the bottom in the middle.

Some people are using a different link which isn't working.

Unless you are behind some fancy proxy or in a country that blocks ovi, one of these should work.


Please please go edit out your phone number!!!! (psst - your birds should be on the way)

noobmonkey 2010-01-12 08:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HRZ (Post 465839)
still nothing. neither through app manager nor through N900 browser NOR through my PC browser!!! what is going on here? I can only see those 6 mentioned before. it's driving me crazy.

in the meantime, is there a kind soul out there who can send me the link for angry birds to my phone directly from OVI?
Thanks!

read through my earlier post. its near the front of the thread. the back door still works :)

mele 2010-01-12 08:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 465749)
user error? mine works

are your sounds on?

hmmmm.... sounds are on, got to try again

edit: still doesnt work, no sound for me :(

HRZ 2010-01-12 08:59

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OK thank you very much RevdKathy for the link. UNFORTUNATELY it appears the geniuses at maemo/nokia have decided to not share but these 6 measly apps with those of us behind the Great Firewall (China). that is just awesome.
no ovi store or cool apps/games for me...
unless somehow i can get a proxy to work on the N900, which i still cant figure out how to do.

jcompagner 2010-01-12 09:04

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Who did loose rootfs space when installing stuff from ovi. did you also install themes? Because themes are on rootfs i believe.

benny1967 2010-01-12 09:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RevdKathy (Post 465803)
... I was hoping they'd add hot men)


so did I ;)

http://static.twoday.net/oskar/images/n900-peter_kl.jpg

freppas 2010-01-12 09:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HRZ (Post 465859)
OK thank you very much RevdKathy for the link. UNFORTUNATELY it appears the geniuses at maemo/nokia have decided to not share but these 6 measly apps with those of us behind the Great Firewall (China). that is just awesome.
no ovi store or cool apps/games for me...
unless somehow i can get a proxy to work on the N900, which i still cant figure out how to do.

Can't you just proxy via your computer and get them that way?

I know it's "mafan" but you live in China mate, best get used to it ;)

slender 2010-01-12 09:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HRZ (Post 465859)
OK thank you very much RevdKathy for the link. UNFORTUNATELY it appears the geniuses at maemo/nokia have decided to not share but these 6 measly apps with those of us behind the Great Firewall (China). that is just awesome.
no ovi store or cool apps/games for me...
unless somehow i can get a proxy to work on the N900, which i still cant figure out how to do.

How weird. How you know that its because of Nokia? Would the very first hypothesis with yout firewall be that it's blocking and there should be rules on that great thing. If you had completely open system then there would probably be no problems.

I´m just bit amazed because of your attitude towards other people in the world to take your firewall into consideration. Or maybe I'm missing something.

RevdKathy 2010-01-12 09:24

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You didn't get the birds either?

If you did, I can send you whatever you want from the free list - someone listed the whole catalogue here. PM me your number (I've deleted it) and wish-list tonight and I'll do them.

If you didn't even get the birds... then we will need to seriously Think about a solution.

Seems a bit silly for China to block Nokia. Apple, now, I could understand... ;)

qgil 2010-01-12 09:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 465007)
I find the choice of for-pay desktop images to be quite telling for the Ovi Store. . . .

The content of the Ovi Store tells about the store, right. But in the first place it tells about the developers uploading products there and setting the price. The success or not@of such products also tell about the Maemo users.

Let's see how things settle.

Rauha 2010-01-12 09:27

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Most likely it's not neither Nokia nor the Great Firewall of China. I don't really see any reason for either of those to block current content in Ovi Store, especially if the Wall allready lets the store itself trough.

Propably it's the developers of these Apps that have chosen, for whatever reason, not to release them in every market.

HRZ 2010-01-12 09:30

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@slender: I guess it could be both. Nokia not wanted to promote the apps in China (maybe they are afraid of some kind of repercussions) or it could be the Great Firewall actively blocking all those apps for whatever reason. ps - i don't know what you're talking about when you say "my attitude against other people in the world" - I'm not Chinese. I may have accidentally pointed blame at a wrong entity (in this case Nokia/maemo) but it's not borne out of some kind of nationalistic pride.

@RevdKathy - I didnt even get the birdies :(
it looks like I need a proxy ON the N900. when I use a proxy (i have several apps on windows) and access the browser on my PC i see allllllll the goodies im missing out on! makes me wanna...leave china temporarily, download, and come back. I've dealt with the fact that i can't access facebook, twitter, or even youtube on the N900 but to do this! this is just unacceptable whether its coming from the firewall or from some kind of marketing thing on nokia/maemo's behalf.

is there any way to get a proxy up and running on the N900? i've searched but i havent found anything. and i dont know how to use openvpn (im assuming u use that WITH a paid service - i only use free proxies here)

HRZ 2010-01-12 09:32

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or maybe there's a way to install these apps OFFLINE, and not OTA so that my IP address isnt even detected... doubt it.

HRZ 2010-01-12 09:34

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I believe now is the most appropriate time for me to start a thread about getting (free vs paid) proxy/vpn on the N900. I need a how-to from all you experts out there.

nex 2010-01-12 09:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Saturn (Post 465507)
You should be aware that apt-get stores the downloaded debs at (note, the application manager doesn't):
/var/cache/apt/archives/

It's safe to clean them after installation either by
rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb
or (simply)
apt-get clean

This should free some space if you haven't done it already.

Ofcourse, apt-get clean! See working with debian on a normal sized drive makes you forget about those little things :)

Still, like others said, perhaps a download queue or a multi-select + download function on the ovi store could be useful.

As a sidenote, it seems freed space on the rootfs now shows up immediately in a df. It previously needed a reboot for me most of the times.

Mikael 2010-01-12 09:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rauha (Post 465892)
Most likely it's not neither Nokia nor the Great Firewall of China. I don't really see any reason for either of those to block current content in Ovi Store, especially if the Wall allready lets the store itself trough.

Propably it's the developers of these Apps that have chosen, for whatever reason, not to release them in every market.

I believe the reason may well be in Chinese legislation. I have heard some strange rumors about a new law in China that forbids importing games, or something to that effect (but I have not seen this in writing anywhere, so this information may be incorrect.) In any case, I am quite sure no developer would deliberately close out the Chinese market, and certainly Rovio would be more than happy to make Angry Birds available in every possible market.

HRZ 2010-01-12 09:50

Re: OVI STORE is open for business
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freppas (Post 465875)
Can't you just proxy via your computer and get them that way?

I know it's "mafan" but you live in China mate, best get used to it ;)

这么麻烦啊! NO I can't get used to it? are you in Beijing now?? how are we going to get all these good apps? there needs to be a method to either get them transferred offline to the devices or to get a VPN/proxy on the devices themselves and hide IP from China Unicom.

pycage 2010-01-12 09:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rkm (Post 465812)
Did someone say fart app? I'm on it ;) *coding*

Have fun recording the sound effects and remember to open the windows wide afterwards. :)

freppas 2010-01-12 09:57

Re: OVI STORE is open for business
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikael (Post 465916)
I believe the reason may well be in Chinese legislation. I have heard some strange rumors about a new law in China that forbids importing games, or something to that effect (but I have not seen this in writing anywhere, so this information may be incorrect.) In any case, I am quite sure no developer would deliberately close out the Chinese market, and certainly Rovio would be more than happy to make Angry Birds available in every possible market.

Well the law definitely isn't new but you're right to some extent.

China examines all the games coming into the market and they have to be approved by the government (sometimes this is retroactive to enable smaller games to start off before they're checked). Also there is a limit on how many foreign movies they allow here every year, which could be a problem if OVI wants to sell movies...

there are also sometimes problems about which department should issue the permit, the latest wow update had this problem for instance.

So in conclusion: Yes there are a lot of barriers and things to consider when bringing a game to China.

benny1967 2010-01-12 10:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pycage (Post 465930)
Quote:

Originally Posted by rkm (Post 465812)
Did someone say fart app? I'm on it ;) *coding*

Have fun recording the sound effects and remember to open the windows wide afterwards. :)

;) I hope the sound files are high quality and stereo. I'd hate it if my N900 would do mono farts only.

freppas 2010-01-12 10:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HRZ (Post 465924)
这么麻烦啊! NO I can't get used to it? are you in Beijing now?? how are we going to get all these good apps? there needs to be a method to either get them transferred offline to the devices or to get a VPN/proxy on the devices themselves and hide IP from China Unicom.

Haha, yeah I'm here for another two days and then I'm heading south for 放假 (Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore), coming back by chinese new year though.

I think it should be possible to run a web-proxy on it but I don't know since I don't actually have the device (I'm alas still a poor student who cannot afford one yet), but I'm looking into solutions because this firewall is going nowhere and when I do get the money I'm buying one right away(although that may run maemo 6 if I stay here and work)!

mr_bridger 2010-01-12 10:28

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I dont think these are all optified?

i installed solitare, and lost 7mb rootfs. deleted and it came back.

i installed angle meter (also by "offscr.com") and lost abot 7mb. deleting brought it back.

i installed both at same time expecting 14mb to go, but it was still only 7mb????

i tried reboots between installs and uninstalls, but no difference.

Angry birds didnt make any difference to rootfs at all.

any ideas? i dont want to use anything that will use rootfs space if i can

Ross.

ossipena 2010-01-12 10:32

Re: OVI STORE is open for business
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_bridger (Post 465986)
I dont think these are all optified?

i installed solitare, and lost 7mb rootfs. deleted and it came back.

i installed angle meter (also by "offscr.com") and lost abot 7mb. deleting brought it back.

i installed both at same time expecting 14mb to go, but it was still only 7mb????

i tried reboots between installs and uninstalls, but no difference.

Angry birds didnt make any difference to rootfs at all.

any ideas? i dont want to use anything that will use rootfs space if i can

Ross.

its a 7mb lib those both need? sounds like unoptified to me.

b15cu1t 2010-01-12 10:33

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Works for me..full of crap, solitaire is probably the best thing on it at the mo


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