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egoshin

2010-01-15 01:35

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nozu (Post 472022)

Bluetooth
My Nokia BH-804 headset kept disconnecting on it's own within 30 minutes and not reconnecting afterwards. Headset shows disconnection but the phone thinks the connection is still on. This hasn't changed. This IS critical! Bluetooth is worthless!.

Vote for bug 6605 - https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6605

borland

2010-01-15 01:44

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

Hmm, the browser does rotate, but when u try virtual keyboard it switches to landscape again. Any way to rotate it?

Frank Banul

2010-01-15 01:50

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

That's what I did the first time around, reboot, file manager, double click on "Office Space.mp4".

Quote:

Originally Posted by sierrafoxtrot (Post 472479)

hey can you try rebooting and (without ever opening the media player directly) trying to play the file through the file manager again? i'm pretty sure if the get-video-thumb process runs it borks something that renders all videos (inc one's taken by the camera) unplayable

Frank

daperl

2010-01-15 02:08

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

I just noticed they fixed the browser page-up and page-down functions. The previous version didn't adjust the scrolling page size when you zoomed or adjusted the font size. Excellent fix. Now to do the ol' page up/down edit for the +/- buttons...

vietn900

2010-01-15 03:26

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

Quote:

Originally Posted by borland (Post 472919)

Hmm, the browser does rotate, but when u try virtual keyboard it switches to landscape again. Any way to rotate it?

yea too bad :( i was hoping they would implement this in the conversation and ovi map as well

rrdbala

2010-01-15 03:35

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

I just installed the update via OTA. It was fast and no issues at all.

After the reboot it is more faster and the OVI maps also has some improvements and GPS tracker is so cool.

But i just want to know except browser what are all the other applications that will work in portrait mode?

somedude

2010-01-15 03:41

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

Quote:

Originally Posted by rrdbala (Post 473094)

But i just want to know except browser what are all the other applications that will work in portrait mode?

ahh lets see, other than browser........
Phone!!
:p

kaz911

2010-01-15 04:33

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mooninite (Post 472237)

Read my post.

Hulu.com would play shows *before* the update. Now they no longer play.

It could be that hulu.com added some ridiculous version checking just recently, but I do not know.

Hulu has recently changed their requirement to Flash 10. When I got N900 could also use HULU (not very well but it worked) but a few weeks later Hulu started with "Flash 10" only. So not really a N900 bug... Flash 10 is unfortunately so unstable that HULU desktop client break down every 2-3 hours...

les_garten

2010-01-15 05:59

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nozu (Post 472022)

I'm _really_ disappointed with this update!

I waited for this update like there's no tomorrow. I was hoping it to fix some bugs and bring features that I thought was critical. It fixed none of the bugs I suffered with this phone and neither got those features I was missing for.

Bluetooth
My Nokia BH-804 headset kept disconnecting on it's own within 30 minutes and not reconnecting afterwards. Headset shows disconnection but the phone thinks the connection is still on. This hasn't changed. This IS critical! Bluetooth is worthless!

Agreed! I think they must be in trouble with their BT performance. I hope not though. It is useless to me as well.

Quote:

Calendar
Nothing new here, still very limited -> thus crap:
-No copy/paste of events
-No possibility to remove single event from repeated events.
-No advanced settings of eg. repeat monthly: day/date?
-What's with the lines showing your events in the monthly view? They don't even show if the event is at morning or evening! Finding an open space for an event/appointment from monthly view is way too slow and frustrating!
-Try to create an event and select that the event is ending next weeks Wednesday ... you'll get the timescroller (or how do you call it?). Now what's the date for that day? Hell, I don't know! I need to cancel the event creation and go see the monthly view to see the date! >:(
The calendar is simply awful to use. It needs a lot of updates to get it usefull ... or maybe somebody with programming skills should do a whole new calendar for N900!

Calendar SUX, agreed. I guess nobody uses Calendar on their Device except me and you!

slender

2010-01-15 06:26

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickt (Post 472770)

Grrr...

Wifi: gone. The connection never seems to be resolved. The icon just blinks.

Why would I want to use the browser in portrait mode? The only thing portrait mode would be useful for is messaging and navigating through the OS.

For example in here in portrait mode you can easily speed read threads easily. You see thread topics more on one eyefull. Some webpages are optimized for portrait mode for example nokia store.

So it depends on webpage you are viewing.

But its true that it should be enabled at least in mediaplayer,conversations,menus. Places where you quite often would also like to use your phone with one hand.

asys3

2010-01-15 06:27

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

Besides all technical discussion:

The best changelog I have ever seen:

separated in sections
separated in nokia items and maemo.org items
direct links to bugzilla

That really is a big step again for Nokia in the right direction to work with the community!

No such changelog can be seen for android or iphone updates.

That's why I buy a maemo device - not only because of current hardware or software features.

I buy it because bugs can be adressed, viewed for everyone and finally adressed to a offical release.
That's socialising a device in the community way.

Absolut great job.

Creating that changelog is absolutly worth.

asys3

slender

2010-01-15 06:31

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

I would also like to thank for changelog in wiki. There was even diffs. Amazing i would say :) First time i have seen this kind of information from phone company.

Still i have to say that putting warning about that its not possible revert back to old firmware would make it even better.

e-d0uble

2010-01-15 06:48

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

Hmm.. Everyone appears to be talking about the browser now operating in portrait mode.. I can't get my browser to do this now.. What's the trick?

jaeezzy

2010-01-15 06:58

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

Here's issues i have noticed so far:
*The quality of recorded video from n900 has definitely gone worst. the zooming has got little smoother i guess but not quite there yet. I tried to get video information from the MediaInfo software I have in my laptop but it displays nothing but just the size of the file but for videos recorded prior the update, it shows all infos.
*Mediaplayer widget in the desktop doesn't respond to play button.

These are what I've noticed so far and 'll keep adding as I encounter. However, loved the web auto rotate thing.

jaeezzy

2010-01-15 07:01

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

Quote:

Originally Posted by e-d0uble (Post 473309)

Hmm.. Everyone appears to be talking about the browser now operating in portrait mode.. I can't get my browser to do this now.. What's the trick?

while browser is open press ctrl+shift+o.
EDIT: it doesn't work when the hw keybord is slided out

maxximuscool

2010-01-15 07:12

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

The music player is no longer Mutlitasking ....!!!! if you minimizing the music player and click the multi-tasking button.. all you see is the frozen thumb nail of the music player from the time you minimizing it.

This is ridiculous... youtube still muti-tasking but not as smooth any more. And where the heck is Flash 10?

In my point of view firmware 42.11 is much better comparing to the performance of this 51.1 firmware. The only good thing with this firmware is... the MS Exchange 2003 is now working just fine.

rebhana

2010-01-15 07:30

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

Quote:

Originally Posted by juaalto (Post 470288)

Assuming now that your problem is caused by the vpnc_0.5.8-0m5_armel.deb package installed before upgrade to PR1.1 over SSU. You can either reflash with PR 1.1 and reinstall vpnc or you could try following manual steps. Please report if they work:

1. Install 'rootsh' package (you need to connect to internet over VPN to install rootsh)
2. Open X Terminal
3. Enter 'sudo gainroot'
4. Enter 'mv /etc/udhcpc/libicd_network_ipv4.script.dpkg-dist /etc/udhcpc/libicd_network_ipv4.script'
5. Create file '/etc/maemo-dhcp.d/60_vpnc'
6. Add the following code in /etc/maemo-dhcp.d/60_vpnc:

Code:

#!/bin/sh -e

if route -n | grep -e "^0\.0\.0\.0" | grep -q tun0; then

    route -n | grep -e "^0\.0\.0\.0" | grep $interface | awk '{print $2}' > /tmp/vpnc_route

    ip=`cat /var/run/vpnc/defaultroute | cut -f3 -d' '`

    if [ -z $ip ]; then

        killall vpnc

    else

        if route -n | grep -e "^0\.0\.0\.0" | grep -q $ip; then

            route delete default $interface

        fi

    fi

fi

7. In X Terminal enter 'chmod +x /etc/maemo-dhcp.d/60_vpnc'
8. Reboot the device

I haven't upgraded yet, so I would be interested in knowing whether de-installing vpnc before the upgrade to 1.1, and re-installing thereafter would solve this problem. Or would one have to add the above /etc/maemo-dhcp.d/60_vpnc anyway to make PR1.1 compatible with vpnc_0.5.8-0m5_armel.deb?

This package seems to be in need of a fix, but it also seems to me that this package is not take care of really by anybody (two weeks ago I filed a bug report on this package at garage.maemo.org, which did not produce any response). That's rather unfortunate as there seem to be quite a number of people depending on vpnc to connect to a Cisco concentrator at their work place.

tpinhao

2010-01-15 07:46

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

Hey Guys !!!

One new feature i noticed yesterday !!!

The FM Transmitter now instead of transmitting by RDS on ly the word "Nokia", sends also the Information from the music currently playing !

Autor ---> Song name ---> YEAH

:)

Jonkki

2010-01-15 07:53

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaeezzy (Post 473331)

while browser is open press ctrl+shift+o.
EDIT: it doesn't work when the hw keybord is slided out

Sorry for a obviously stupid question, but how the hell do you press ctrl-shift-o without hw keyboard slided out? :D

sxc	2010-01-15 07:56

Tasks and reminders

"Tasks" (in the calendar) can now have custom reminders associated with them - hurray!

tpinhao

2010-01-15 08:02

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonkki (Post 473413)

Sorry for a obviously stupid question, but how the hell do you press ctrl-shift-o without hw keyboard slided out? :D

:D You press ctrl+shift+o and after you have to close the keyboard or it wont go to portrait mode :D

*Sonic*

2010-01-15 08:07

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

Can you touch the screen to zoom into pictures (like in the web browser) or is it still only with the volume key to zoom in and out

naabi

2010-01-15 08:13

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 470046)

Still no FULL UI portrait mode. Still holding my breath lol

Portrait mode support is and should be application specific. If you mean portrait for desktop, that could be feasable. Still portrait mode for desktop makes desktop somewhat limited. E.g. you can't have widgets with width greater than 400p and you need some kind of snap to grid functionality to re-position widgets between landscape and portrait mode. Alternatively you could set the positions manually for both modes - which actually sounds better to me.

JereHakala

2010-01-15 08:18

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

The flash seems work a lot better, before speedtest.net would stuter and also the game I tried, now they're both a lot smoother.

RevdKathy

2010-01-15 08:46

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

Quote:

Originally Posted by les_garten (Post 473249)

Calendar SUX, agreed. I guess nobody uses Calendar on their Device except me and you!

You two might want to have some input here. :)

Jonkki

2010-01-15 09:29

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

Ok, portrait works, but desperately needs rearranging text.

juaalto

2010-01-15 14:47

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

Quote:

Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 473382)

Uninstallation of vpnc_0.5.8-0m5_armel.deb leaves the hack in file '/etc/udhcpc/libicd_network_ipv4.script'. You anyway need to use the 'mv' command to fix the file. I actually recommend nut uninstalling vpnc. By creating file '60_vpnc' your old vpnc should work. If you reinstall vpnc, it again hacks /etc/udhcpc/libicd_network_ipv4.script and you can be in trouble again if some future firmware wants to change the file.

One alternative is of course to flash the device, but with any linux competence the manual steps should be the easiest alternative.

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...8&postcount=41

vietn900

2010-01-15 14:51

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonkki (Post 473413)

Sorry for a obviously stupid question, but how the hell do you press ctrl-shift-o without hw keyboard slided out? :D

he means it doesnt work if you have keyboard slide out but once you close it and rotate the phone it should work ... fine :D

here is another way :

open web browser with keyboard slide out then call your phone ... close the keyboard, turn the phone into portrait and voila :D

vietn900

2010-01-15 14:54

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonkki (Post 473583)

Ok, portrait works, but desperately needs rearranging text.

it's not ready yet that;s why it's easter egg release :D ... im sure the next update will improve it ... hopefully a virtual portrait keyboard as well

rebhana

2010-01-15 15:25

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

Quote:

Originally Posted by juaalto (Post 474209)

Thanks a lot for the advice!

I'm actually still uncertain whether to update to PR1.1 in view of the problems that I saw reported with WIFI connectivity and SSH problems,

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...296#post472296 and
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=40567

and the fact that upgrading to PR1.1 cannot be undone because of FW issues. I'm too happy with how things are working under PR1.0.1

radiowc

2010-01-15 15:35

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

Love it, Works but one thing i noticed after flashing this firmware,

1) it does not really wipe everything. When I reinstall the app eg the weather widget, the icon stay blue until I have to shutdown and restart it, else I will just see a blue square box icon.

2) Also, I was freak out when the firmware update completed with prompt "Update Succesfully" and then I try to reboot it for the first time, I cannot access to the apps and it is blank, and i only can access to the apps on the deskstop. So what I do was restart it another tme (reboot), then everything back to normal. Phew!!!!!.

Love this firmware...Nokia doing a great jobs, look forward for more updates :>

timperi

2010-01-15 17:38

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrget (Post 472248)

Ok, so I guess it's time to reopen Bug #7277, then.

timperi, when you have those issues (or rather force them by turning powermanagement back on), could you have a look at the output of the dmesg command and compare it to the one provided in the Bugzilla entry?

I turner on the powermanagement back on (to the maximum) and tested this thing several times.

I don't know the exact time of inactivity it takes to freeze the wlan connection, but 10 minutes seem to do it every time.

There are no messages regarding the wlan in dmesg after the network is frozen.

Here's a cut out from the end of the dmesg:

Code:

[   63.833618] wlan0: authenticate with AP 00:1d:73:ee:bf:c0

[   63.835906] wlan0: authenticated

[   63.835937] wlan0: associate with AP 00:1d:73:ee:bf:c0

[   63.838897] wlan0: RX AssocResp from 00:1d:73:ee:bf:c0 (capab=0x431 status=0 aid=1)

[   63.838897] wlan0: associated

[   80.339660] slide (GPIO 71) is now open

[  263.410217] slide (GPIO 71) is now closed

[  268.894622] kb_lock (GPIO 113) is now closed

[  269.167724] kb_lock (GPIO 113) is now open

[  990.410614] kb_lock (GPIO 113) is now closed

[  990.574188] kb_lock (GPIO 113) is now open

[  991.597656] slide (GPIO 71) is now open

[ 1049.558654] slide (GPIO 71) is now closed

[ 1060.464782] slide (GPIO 71) is now open

I did a ping www.google.fi after 80.339660, worked fine.
I waited 10-12 minutes, picked up the phone, tried to repeat the ping, but it doesn't work anymore. (after this i saved the dmesg output.)
Nothing network related works before i reconnect the wlan.

colnago

2010-01-15 17:39

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mooninite (Post 472237)

Read my post.

Hulu.com would play shows *before* the update. Now they no longer play.

It could be that hulu.com added some ridiculous version checking just recently, but I do not know.

I did read your post...did you not understand mine?

I'm saying that it was not the "900's update(s)" that stopped access, but rather "Hulu's update, prior to the release of the 900's update", that's denying playback.

egoshin

2010-01-15 19:03

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 473346)

I don't update yet, but this may be just result of Nokia response to "choppy audio problem" - multitasking may degrade the sound.

egoshin

2010-01-15 19:06

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

Quote:

Originally Posted by juaalto (Post 474209)

Unfortunately the change of /etc/udhcpc/libicd_network_ipv4.script by vpnc IS NEEDED! Without it you may have a problem of access to VPN DNS. vpnc add some stuff into /etc/udhcpc/libicd_network_ipv4.script which allows your access to VPN DNS.

So, - uninstall and reinstall vpnc... and remember the problem for next release.

Laughing Man

2010-01-15 19:08

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 473346)

Err.. technically it's still multi-tasking, what you meant is that it's no longer showing you a live preview. And Flash 10 will be out when Adobe releases it, it's not Nokia's decision.

rebhana

2010-01-15 20:02

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

Quote:

Originally Posted by egoshin (Post 474715)

I slowly get it: juaalto's fix puts what vpnc added to /etc/udhcpc/libicd_network_ipv4.script into a separate script. I don't understand though whether it is completely equivalent to do so. If it is, then this solution would have the advantage that future Maemo releases would not have the same problem again. One would have to just watch out what a potential upgrade of vpnc might bring. I've also posted a bug report on vpnc, two weeks ago, but so far without any reaction - so we might be seeing more releases from Nokia before vpnc stabilizes.

vietn900

2010-01-15 20:09

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

Quote:

Originally Posted by colnago (Post 474517)

i think this is either nokia sucks or flash 10 is coming soon :D

egoshin

2010-01-15 20:40

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

Quote:

Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 474837)

I slowly get it: juaalto's fix puts what vpnc added to /etc/udhcpc/libicd_network_ipv4.script into a separate script. I don't understand though whether it is completely equivalent to do so.

The code is some equivalent, but I can't say about /etc/maemo-dhcp.d because in PR1.0 or PR1.0.1 nothing refers to that directory. I hope juaalto knows something more about udhcpc in PR1.1 and it uses that directory to run startup scripts from it. PR1.0/1.0.1 doesn't have this at all.

(I still on PR1.0.1)

Shaichico

2010-01-15 21:29

Re: PR1.1 Feedback?

Quote:

Originally Posted by houz (Post 472115)

I had this problem streaming via DLNA/uP..Also studders/stalls if i had a network mounted drive. Local play was good.

corrected by going into the advanced options for my wlan and turning power save mode off. this fixed my problem.
houz

I actually tried that now and its still the same. Video shows the image but freezes a millisecond into the video. Has anyone have any ideas on how to troubleshoot further???

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