Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

I'ma happy to test where needed :D - muchos lovos to the forum - looking good :D

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

I almost forgot-- kudos to Reggie:

http://tabulacrypticum.wordpress.com...ning-to-meego/

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

meego rat? :) lol... (Ok have been concentrating on things other then mascots recently :D )
good info though :)

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

Nice !

But I can find no way (yet?) to link there
from the main meego.com page.
?.

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

The forum linked from the wiki page is a testbed at the moment, so isn't linked from the main meego.com pages.

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

Well, there are some purists that don't seem to like a commercial software (vBulletin) to be used in MeeGo, so all this work might not materialize after all. phpBB3 is being proposed.

Feel free to join the discussion: http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/mee...ch/000240.html

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

Reggie, I wonder if soopportal might be useful...

http://www.soopportal.org/Default.asp

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

Well, I went through that whole discussion, and the purists love to blah-blah about the theory, but I don't see anyone stepping up to actually run the project on an open source platform.

For me, it seems pretty straightforward, and it has nothing to do with software licenses. Do we want Reggie to run the forums? If so, we're using vBulletin. If we don't want Reggie to run the forums, who will?

I personally think Reggie's the resource that needs to be preserved, so I'm behind him and whatever he wants to use.

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

Yup, in the end it's always the people and their skills that count, not ideas, tools or numbers.

One sure sign that this is a fundamental truth is that bean counters consistently fail to understand it.

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

I agree with the purists in principal, but I'm happy to compromise over something like forum software and go with something that is know to work. All the reasons Reggie has given in his post - experience, expertise, reliability, functionality, security - are entirely valid and unless the purists want to run the forums themselves they should back away quietly and move on to something more important.

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

I think it's a good discussion to have, especially since there was never a point when we could have it in maemo.org.

There are some practical concerns too. The vbulletin license agreement makes collaborative development of the sort we would expect to have in such a community (eg people developing / testing locally and pushing their changes via git) quite hard and costly.

True, and the discussion seems to have gone into vbulettin vs phpbb mode rather too quickly :-( I don't use forums much so don't know what's out there, but it there's something that fits the needs (which haven't actualyl been clearly defined yet) better it deserves at least a look. What, if any, are the viable OSS options?

If on the other hand VB really is the best available option so be it.

Reggie is a valuable resource to be sure, but he's not an infinite resource and he may not be around forever.

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

I’m not responsible for this, am merely spreading the word for anyone not following the community list. Which might well not be anyone. :)

A test site for phpbb can be found here at meegotalk.tk

At the moment, the bridge is also looking solid there, however there are a few issues which still make the vb package more appealing for me..

1.SSO implementation with Reggies approach makes more sense to me in terms of consistency. Registration works both ways using the phpbb test site, which leads to two different sign-up processes. I cant see any advantage in this (that doesn’t mean there isn’t one, please feel free to enlighten me)
2.Thanks/Karma system not implemented on phpbb YET. I cant speculate as to the feasibility of emulating the system here.
3.Reggie! Proven track record, ready and willing to work with vb with lots of experience and knowledge.

Just sharing my thoughts here because I dont like mailing lists :D

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

Your feelings just about reflect mine (including the dislike of mailing lists!)

I thought this one was all sorted after the IRC meeting a fortnight ago, but apparently not.

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

Some people don't like mailing lists, and prefer forums.

Some people don't like IRC, and prefer mailing lists :)

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

Yep. Which is why we need mailing lists, IRC and forums. And we need to make sure that people in all of them know about conversations happening in each of them.

My understanding was that a number of issues were regarded as 'resolved' after the meeting. I wasn't able to be there, but had gained that impression.

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

Blogs! You're forgetting blogs! The cruddy little things that glue it all together. :D

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

Hi, just a comment to put OSS purity in its context.

MeeGo is a project of the Linux Foundation that will be hosted at the Open Source lab of the Oregon State university, where other champion OSS projects are hosted: http://osuosl.org/

From this point of view it makes a lot of sense to default to OSS licenses for the MeeGo infrastructure, since both the Linux Foundation and the OSUOSL are organizations with a explicit open source agenda.

Of course it also makes a lot of sense to consider current resources and skills, and this is why no decision has been made (but we will, this week).

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

fyi we have decided to go for vBulletin integrated with Drupal with Reggie leading the implementaton work.

http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/mee...ch/000437.html

Thank you for the discussion here! Now the implementation discussion moves entirely to meego.com

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

I'm excited and encouraged at the shape of communications, the timelines and the overall decision process. Kudos to Quim and company.

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

MeeGo Forum is now live! http://forum.meego.com
More info: http://bit.ly/9nefhU

Thanks all!

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

umm.. forgive me if I'm being a bit dim - signed up for meego.com and mailing lists a week or so ago, when I go to http://forum.meego.com, sign in with the exsisting credentials I get a 404 not found... assumed with the SSO it should work?

(Nice one for getting it up so soon :))

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

Here is a small bug, not worthy of a Bugzilla entry:

If you are not logged in, and try to log-in from the Forum itself, you'll be redirected to http://meego.com/user/login?destination=forum , but after successful login you won't return to http://forum.meego.com subdomain - instead you'll be transferred to http://meego.com/forum, which will result in 404.

Now to say hello there ;)

Thanks for all the hard work, Reggie (and to everyone else that helped).

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

Yes, that's indeed a bug. That should be fixed within the day.

Thanks.

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

I'm concerned about the responses from Quim and Dawn to my question about the MeeGo Community section. I really like the way this one has developed (with the caveat that I continue to think new member orientation belongs here rather than under General).

http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=7

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

I'm with you. This is the one forum I always check - usually twice a day. If I get nowhere else on maemo.org due to time pressure, I look in here.

'Community working group' is something I don't feel I belong to. I'm not entirely sure I ever could: I get the community mailings, and much of what I read leaves me feeling ignorant and really not part of it. By comparison, I felt at home here almost at once. I read your thread, Texrat, but to be honest I felt too shy over there to log in and post (and scurried back here to reply to you!)

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

Don't be shy. Sign up and comment! Your voice is needed (especially by me!)

If nothing else you could always just click Thanks. :D

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

'Community Working Group' gave me same kind of queery feeling I got when Meego was annouced and I went to check Moblin community site.

Please voice your opinion there. I did my first post on Meego forums about the subject and seem to have survived. :)

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

Community management (Quim and Dawn) continue to prefer "work" being part of the subforum title. I continue to disagree. Regardless, I strongly urge everyone to participate in the discussion at the MeeGo forum. That includes people who think I'm full of it. ; )

This is your opportunity to contribute to the direction taken!

http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=7

(thanks Rauha)

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

I want to thank those who have made the effort to join the forum-shaping discussion(s) at meego.com, whether you agree with my position or not. Our high engagement will make the difference between a corporate vs community atmosphere.

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

I think I have the solution, and posted at the meego forum: community engagement.

Works for both views. ;)

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

Maybe this is covered elsewhere (if so, I apologize), but what about the plan to migrate accounts from t.m.o. to the MeeGo forum? Is this going to happen?

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

No. maemo.org and meego.com are separate projects with different ownerships. Getting MeeGo or a meego.com account is a voluntary action for any Maemo user or contributor.

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

what about meego.org . as i understand the maemo.org forums were made by community and now a lot of stuff in maemo.org at all are contributed by community. As meego is open source and community would contribute a lot, it would be nicealso to see admins and moderators as active meego volunteers as well and not only Nokia nad Intel employees as it works at most projects. It would be nice as well that they would take part in decisions and would know what is actually gooing with meego and provide us info as well (i understand that not info can be provided but still as i see with maemo, sometimes it's too much words but not actual information).

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

ZogG, check out domain ownership of meego.org. A squatter is looking to get a few bucks from the url, and everything I've heard indicates that the Linux Foundation doesn't intend to meet his current demands.

As for community-driven projects-- while it's true that Quim, Dawn and other official representatives are currently managing most activities, the ultimate goal is to identify community champions and move activity management into their hands where possible and appropriate.

But if you don't want to wait, feel free to add your name to the first and (so far) only community-led MeeGo project, the MeeGo User Engagement Framework. See here: http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_User_Eng...mework_Project

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

http://www.facebook.com/groups/261331570582020/

Well, this is the united group for all Nokia N9xx lovers and fans! This group is even open for the older Maemo based devices, for current Nokia's so called MeeGo devices (Maemo 6 Harmattan), for upcoming Maemo 7 Meltemi devices (if any...) and also for other systems using the Maemo like apps (for example Symbian Belle).

Let's not divide our small community to even smaller communities!

Re: MeeGo forum? (maemo.org round)
 

what is this spam meant to achieve? How was it related to current topic?