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And after four "Galileo" iterations, it does "Figaro"?

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lol. Yeah, like we can't hack around that. ;) And on a side note though, It's interesting to see that the Google engineers at least have a sense of humor. :D

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i tried to add multimap in my repostorys, but failed!
maybe you have some ideas....

here is a very helpful link http://forum.mgmaps.com/viewtopic.php?t=2692

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this is really upseting. google maps are the best...

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Actually it's qole who has the sense of humour.

I've had a look at the google maps javascript and Galileo is hard coded.

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It may be hard coded, but that's still going to require someone to figure out how to get around that when adding it to a mapping program. I think it's designed to prevent map programs that use single function URL's from accessing it. I don't think they expect to stop everyone, just those who don't have the means or ability to circumvent said anti-leaching technology.

In other words, the bad guys will still get access, but us legit users won't. :( Ah well. Of course, there's a download script floating around the forums somewhere built with Python that could easily be hacked to take advantage of this multifunction URL. Then you'd just run the script and let it do it's work.

The only downside is, someone needs to adapt it to run multiple strings or else child processes, because the way it is now, it's too bloody slow. :( I'm running it now on my utility server and I'm closing on the 3rd day and I've only cleared 650,000 images out of some 6.5 million I need to complete my database. T_T

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I've got the sdk installed and have downloaded the mm source code. My plan is to run some tests tomorrow to see if this avenue is worth pursuing.

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The current valid url is almost unchanged:

http://mt.google.com/vt/x=%d&y=%d&z=%d

The issue now is that the zoom parameter is inverted.
Value 0 shows the entire earth and 17 shows the closest view.
So when maemo mapper try to get a url with z=6, it should be
z=11 (17-6). When mm say z=5, it should be z=12 (17-5), and so on.
I think the only way to get mm to work with this is to modify the source
code, but i couldn't compile mm yet.

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Do you have the URL for google satellite?
Thanks

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Using the same trick for satellite as the street maps this currently works for me:
Standard disclaimer on the amount of data Google will allow you to download.

I found some confusion on the scale factor in the URLs it seems that Google have an inverted 'z' parameter that is now used on their web interface, replacing this with 'zoom' allows the standard scale factor from maemo-mapper to be used. Sorry i missed this from my original post on how i got the new URL.

Google also seem to have street overlays for the satellite images from the following URL:
I can't figure out how to get these layered over the satellite imagery in maemo-mapper, anyone got an idea?

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Les
forgive my ignorance. I went to google maps on my pc, using firefox. I right cliked on the map but I didn't see any URL.
Clearly I am missing something, where do you click?
Thanks

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Awe, crud. When did they flip it? If it's flipped, then that means the map database I've been building is worthless. Drat, drat, drat, and drat again. T_T

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Hi,
In firefox you may need to disable the context menu, use the about:config page and ensure the following setting is set false:
Now a right mouse click on the map will give the standard firefox context menu, select the item 'Properties'.

Another way to get the information would be via (menu)->Tools->'Page Info' and look under the media section as this will list all of the images on the page. Click on an item associated with a map tile for the full information.

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Sucks doesn't it )-: thankfully you can download all of that data again replacing 'z' with 'zoom' in the URL. Of course Google will probably drop the traditional zoom parameter ASAP but they will break a large number of APIs to do so.

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Would there be any way to spoof google maps into thinking the tablet is an Iphone using Maps?

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Oh, so replace z with zoom and we're back in business then? OH sweetness. Thanks! :D

It still sucks that I gotta rebuild that entire DB, but I think I'll go with a smaller footprint and work up from there just in case they pull this bs again. ^_^

EDIT: Looks like the script I was working with was already using the "zoom" parameter. Hmm. Then maybe my db wasn't all that off then. Too bad I deleted it before checking the script. T_T Ah well, start over I guess.

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Hi,

I want to use the following maps in maemo mapper:
http://topo.geofabrik.de/?zoom=10&la...1.55&layers=BT

It is an openstreetmap with topographical stuff for germany.

I try to use the following URL in maemo mapper but it doesen't work:
http://topo.geofabrik.de/?zoom=%d&lat=%d&lon=%d

What I did wrong?

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Give this a go:
The URL encoding is zoom/x/y maemo-mapper uses '%0d' to identify this geocoding scheme.

The results are not that good as the tiles use a lot of transparency causing problems with artefacts from previous layers and the fact that maemo-mapper uses a black canvas by default.
Nice area for trekking (-:

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Hey is it posible to use the bing's maps birds eye view feature with maemo mapper?. I use mozilla firefox and i got this url sample when using bird eye view http://ecn.t3.tiles.virtualearth.net...-19.jpeg?g=304 . But I don´t know how to use it in maemo mapper.

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Oy, that's the URL from hell. >.< From what I can see, it's using VE, so since someone else has already cracked the VE for street view, I suspect this one will be easy enough, however, given its unique encoding, it may require an update to MM to make it work. Which brings up another good point. Isn't it about time to add plugin support to MM so that we don't need entire version bumps just to deal with the rapidly changing image encoding standards? The plugins could handle all the translating and MM could then settle on one way to do things, thus making it easier for it to do things. :D

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So basically what you're saying Lord Raiden is that we can't use this type of url with the current Maemo Mapper. It would be necessary to upgrade the program?. There is no workaround without upgrading?

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Short answer: No.

Long answer: Right now, no. Because the schemas for converting the URL's are all hard coded into the program. That's why I was thinking that gnuite, the guy who built it, could maybe add a plugin system (or someone else could add it for him) so that it'll make doing schema changes easier in the future, especially since they're changing so fast now.

There's also one other URL that we can't use right now, and that's the Google Maps Satellite version, since the URL is dynamic in ways that would make your head spin. I know Gnuite is aware of them, but I doubt he can adapt fast enough to deal with all the changes going down right now. So for the moment, until some better solution is created, your URL won't work.

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I still can't use the google maps and downloading more then 2gb of maps for ve hybrid. I tried deleting the repositories to start over but I don't think it worked.

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Did you start a new repository, set the DB type as SQlite3, and then enter all the google stuff, and set the DB to a name other than what the other repository was using? That's what I had to do to get it to work.

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I can't figure this out. I just started using Maemo Mapper and I am trying to use Google streets view. I gives me the same errors as the first post in this thread: "NN maps failed to download".

After reading posts here, it seems like I have the correct URL format. I didn't have to change it. It uses the "zoom" parameter.

Does anyone have the CURRENT steps to get MM working with Google maps? Thanks

EDIT: after reading post #222, maybe Lord Raiden is saying that Google maps is broken now and there's nothing I can do... ???

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This thread #176, the link works for me and some users, and it is working today.

bun

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I would like to use a WMS service called sigpac ( https://www.mapa.es/en/sig/pags/sigpac/intro.htm ). They said that their WMS service is accesible using this URL: http://wms.mapa.es/wms/wms.aspx

As is, it doesn't work. I have tried several combinations in order to guess the correct format of URL for linking maemo mapper with sigpac WMS service, but none worked.

Any hint? What can I do?

Thanks in advance

Juan

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Now, something I've been terribly lost on, and I would like ot ask about...


Does Maemo Mapper ACTUALLY DO navigation? Or does it just overlay tracks over an image, which then have to be downloaded or pre-recorded and saved?

I'm asking because i don't want to activate Wayfinder, but I would like a way to navigate if I get lost.

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It doesn't do actual navigation. Just tracks and routes. It does have POI's inside those tracks with little announcements when you're getting close and where to turn and such, but garmin it is not. However, I took it for a test run today on a trip to Harrison, MI and it did pretty good. It kinda gagged the tablet after running for a while (wouldn't want MM and Canola running at the same time, that's for certain) but otherwise it did good for what I expected it to do. IE, it told me where I was at, showed a little green line (the route) telling me where I should be going, and the rest worked out great. I got to my final destination and back without any hickups. I was even able to take a detour off the main route (shaved several miles off my trip) and pick up my route again on the other side.

As some others here have stated, it's not a full GPS navigation system, but as a navigation reference system, it's awesome. :)

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This is the only method that finally worked for me.

Google's cartography is rediculously accurate and that's what I'll need in the near future. So when I noticed that the default settings for this sample didn't work, I started poking around here.

Google maps has proven to be safe enough for me. Maemo Mapper however, has not.
Do not archive the map DB on the boot disk.
Do not layer POIs in the map repository.
At least put everything in MMC2 or something large or things are going to get very slow and ugly. As far as the map storage goes, basically there's two ways to go about this.
Legacy: Fast downloads, maps load fast, the DB is HUGE and appends quickly.
SQL: Very SLOW downloads, maps load fast, the DB is tiny but appends about as fast as a 233 Intel running MSDE. :(

Depending on what you're like the tradeoffs could be the difference between sink or swim. Personally I'm going to use the SQL method until I can add a large memory card to my shopping list. Also, I'm noticing the GPS tracker gets a lock much faster now. I wonder what I was doing wrong in the beginning. :\

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daemonforce: MM works good if you want high quality maps. The tradeoff is that you end up with huge DB's and some slowdowns. If you want highly accurate maps, but don't need all the eye candy, Navit works well, although it's sorta in a pre-alpha state right now.

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Hi,

I am trying to import maps from www.planplus.rs.

Each tile has the following URL:
http://www.planplus.rs/Services/getimage.aspx?zoom=$level&x=$x&y=$y&orto=0&porto=0
Example points to the upper left corner of the zoom level 11: http://www.planplus.rs/Services/geti...orto=0&porto=0
The tiles are 250px x 250px :confused:
zoom is ranged from (11 to 1), where 1 is most details.

The maps is split in zoom levels.
Inside the zoom level, each tile is identified through x-y integer pair, which does not relate to the X or Y absolute coordinates, or latitude and longitude.

Can you suggest on how to import this map? At the moment I can not identify projection which is used. (it will take some time to perform some measurements of whell known points).

Can you point to the document/url where supported projections and URL substitutions are explained in more details? :rolleyes:

Best regards,
Momcilo

Re: Maemo Mapper Repositories
 

I'm gonna defer to GNUite on this one. He's the one who built the program. I think it'll work the way it is, but I'm not sure how to hack the URL. On a side note, this is an excellent example of why a drop in config or repositories file would work best on these. Something that could tell MM how each site works without having to complete reprogram the entire app for each change.

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Does anyone know how I can get access to the Virtual Earth satellite images outside Maemo Mapper?

I've found them on Microsoft's Bling thing, but I don't like the interface.

Ideally I'd like to see the images in Google Earth or MATLAB or a GIS package.

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Following LES' example of the new URL for Google Streets from June 2009, I succeeded in getting names inside the State of Israel (and also the disputed territories) in Hebrew, while the surrounding states of Lebanon, Jordan, and Egypt are in Arabic/English, by using:

http://mt.google.com/vt/v=w2.97&hl=he&x=%d&y=%d&zoom=%d

I created a new repository reference "Google Streets Hebrew" so that I could use either version.

thanks both to Matan and LES

NOAA charts of US waters (Pacific)
 

After seeing someone talking about NOAA charts on an iPhone app, I played around and converted some to a slippy map that works on my tablet. They aren't all there, just ones more useful for myself (Vancouver, Canada). Note the usage restrictions. No guarantees I will keep them current. Overlaps between charts are crude, so some data is lost at certain zoom ratios at chart edges (Nautical charts are published in a random mish-mash of different scales and locations, often overlapping, having no relation to the binary splits of slippy maps)

http://geotags.com/NOAA/
Repository URL: http://geotags.com/NOAA/%0d/%d/%d.PNG

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Hi,

I am sorry if I am in totally wrong thread here, anyone knowing a better place for this quesiton, please feel free to comment and tell me where to post this...

I just got a N810 from a friend andI am a total newbie with maemo/Linux.

My aim is to use the maemo mapper for boating here in Finland (yep, summer is over so this is more for next summer).

My plan was to load the local "karttapaikka" maps to the mapper. Mapper itself was already installed.

Installing the maps didn't work out and it actually caused the mapper not to start any more.

So I removed the maps and since it didn't help I removed the mapper as well with the idea of re-installing it.

But now I am not able to install it.
I get this "some catalogues unavailable" message and the details has several lines of
"http://repository.maemo.org/extras/dists/chinook/free/binary-armel/Packages.gz"
"Sub-process gzip returned an error code (100)"

And still I am able to go to the "http://repository.maemo.org/extras/dists/chinook/free/binary-armel"-directory with my N810 browser and even copy the Packages.gz file.

I found this:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=199019
And edited the repository list based on Laughing Man's instructions - still not working...

So any help or guidance is welcome...

Cheers...

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It's http://mt.google.com/vt/v=w2p.110&x=%d&y=%d&zoom=%d

I just needed it and figured it out.

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EDIT: NM, I read the post wrong. I thought they had bumped the streets URL again. ^_^;;

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That one worked, thanks!