Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 

sure, i read ... after i screwed the phone :)

it's my first contact with android, it seemed that you can fix everything ... see, even you were saying that it's bricked only when it's hardware damaged :)

nice there is a sticky thread on xda now, for those like me ... unfortunatelly i hurried to get froyo. it installed well, but it was slow and few things (google related) were not working ... so i cleaned some cache and rebooted and that was the end of it

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 

WOW

Im back, I started this thread on the 2nd of August and now its 18 October.

Now that I have finlaly installed Froyo 2.2 on my Galaxy S I can proudly say that its the most powerful and best phone so far.

I can finally watch Flash 10.1 videos in high res and do the screen justice.

The web browser feels alot faster and so does thw whole phone, I have not come across any lag or hangup.

Samsung Galaxy S is the better phone.

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 

You sound a bit in denial, there is lag in 2.2 as well, but thanks god we have CFlagfix and soon voodoo.

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 

Has anybody ever experience this kind of trouble
<< Wrong posted to other area (lol) >>
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=607

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 

It requires a hard reset.

Simply go to keypad and type *2767*3855#

It will reset everything and hopefully work like it should

After I updated to Froyo it did the same thing, so I then hard reset the phone on Froyo , now everything works without problem.

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 

Just some info about Galaxy S FM Radio Receiver (Not Transmitter cause there is none) :

Used to be mono, in Version JPM/JP6 it became stereo, and besides that it's quality is crap.
When I say quality I mean output quality of the sound it produces.
Check out this document I write for more info : http://tinyurl.com/noise-sgs

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 

Heh. Again:
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...-galaxy-phones

Looks like that it´s better to not give any ETA if you are not able to keep em.

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 

Slender,
At least they are not holding every bit and byte in their safe like Nokia does. They are releasing constant updates via samfirmwares.com (leaks).
Personally, I'm using a Custom ROM based on a leak, and my phone is fast, stable, battery lasts full 2 days with EVERYTHING enabled.
When I say everything, i mean :

• GMAIL PUSH
• GPS
• Bluetooth
• Wifi + 3G when not near Wifi
• Screen Brightness on full
• Live wallpaper
• Auto Rotation

I prefer Samsung's way of dealing with everything 10 times over Nokia's way.
Samsung are taking user input, and incorporating fixes into their own code. They are doing a great job.

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 

Oh dear. I´m not trying to say that your precious is somewhat bad I´m trying to point out that grass is not any greener on the other side. Trying to make point with leaked images is well fundamentally twisted way of seeing things when we are talking about things in large scale..

Samsung just have failed to meet the timeframe what they have announced. Simple as that. And community supports small amount of power users who are able and eager to try the meanest and leanest stuff. (pretty much same applies to maemo :|)

Looking comments from Samsung users who are waiting for official firmware is just well..dejavu of whining here in TMO.

.edit
And btw. be careful with that ad-talk style. Maybe it´s just me but users who like to share their delight (includes religious people) with devices that they have fallen love (n900,iPhone or whatever) gives me chills. I do not trust them ;) Still it´s of course very humane to share happiness :)

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 

Galaxy S is a wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwway better than N900. But it has very cheap build material.

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 

It's opiniooooooooooooooooooooooooooon.

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 

i mean it-terms of features & OS:cool:

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 

Once again, it's opinion. They both have unique features and I prefer Maemo to Android (as others prefer Android to Maemo/iOS/Symbian etc).

Opinion is not fact.

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 

Yes it´s better because it´s sexy and toight - toight like a tiger.

Want more information?
[ ] Yes
[ ] No
Additionally I really much would like to have:
[ ] Constant hammering to my balls
[ ] Indirect fire to my home

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 

slender, I understand perfectly what you say.
Still, Personally, I like the leaking method samsung is using.
They have not been leaking firmwares only after missing their own deadline, but far before.

When I had the N900, and was waiting and waiting and waiting for PR1.2, It was a nightmare for me. Eventually 1 leaked version came around, when we flashed it, it rendered the phone unflashable to PR1.1, and soon enough we started getting warnings about flashing releaked firmwares cause it violates all sort of ********.

Regarding the other poster about the build quality,
Again, as we are in a thread called N900 vs Galaxy S.
Galaxy S does feel cheap, plasticy, fragile.
And yet, on my N900, ear-piece stopped working (used bt headset instead), USB port came out, (for me it just didn't charge right),
Camera + flash was always HAZY till i used a marker to blackout the blue strips, screen was no where sensitive as a capacitive screen - now you will legitimetly claim : it's a resesetive screen, can you use a stylus on your Galaxy S? No! I can't, but that resesetive screen has NON-Linear pressure all over the place, MyPaint proved it so hard.

My galaxy S already fell 3 times, with no shields or cases.
it completely disassembled on impact, i put it back, and everything is perfect again.

Nokia used to know what they are doing, and now they DONT.
Everything takes them too much time, and eventually they just mess up.

In my opinion, the only possible way to remedy the current status, is Nokia N9 + Meego 1.2 somewhere in late 2011 (after the app market actually works and developers can actually develop without having to e-mail ovi@support.com for every step in the process.

Anyway, I think we chewed this aspect enough, and not saying my opinions fit everyones, but i'm sure some people would prefer the status with the galaxy S.

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jz75...ure=grec_index

LOL :D

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 

lol :D :p

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 

I know i'm raising a dead thread, but I don't feel like creating a new one just for this :

Some more things that I was missing from N900 on Galaxy S :
- VNC server, found a free one on market that works perfect.
- Found an FTP Server that works perfect
- Found Overclocking capabilities to an already super fast phone.
- All GPS problems have been fixed, and battery is insane in new
ROM released by samsung with android 2.2.1.
- Found some great apps to make Galaxy S camera into a wifi webcam (never found something like this on N900)

I don't see any more Nokia in MY personal future :0

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 

Sounds good. I'm stoked that the application support is really strong for android devices, and the Galaxy S is a very elegant phone.

What types of battery life are you getting now? What is the wifi webcam app?

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 

If i'm using 3g/hsdpa on all the time + some apps at background using internet like whatsapp (freakin amazing app) and ftp server, i get around 22 hours of moderate use.
If i'm only on wifi + 3g for voice calls about 2 days.
If i limit it to 2g + wifi, it's almost 4 days.

Webcam apps :
droidcam ; ip webcam

I'm running android 2.2.1 JPU firmware + voodoo lagfix 5.0.2,
So there is NO lag that the galaxy s is notorious for.

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 

Forgive my questions, I'm curious!

The battery life sounds AMAZING. Supposedly Gingerbread has even more battery life enhancements as well as speed enhancements, so that will be something to look forward to!

Is the JPU firmware official or is it a community project?

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 

JPU is a "Leaked" version that can be found on samfirmware.webs.com among all other versions.

It's a Samsung firmware that was not yet released via Samsung Kies which is the official (crappy) software like PC Suite.

You can find Custom community Roms based on JPU, and you can just use the stock one, which is pretty amazing even as stock.

So far samsung has not released the source code for JPU kernel, but it's pretty new, they usually release it after a couple of weeks.

As opposed to Nokia, Samsung releases it's source code.

I don't believe gingerbread will reach galaxy s officially.
Obviously nexus s will make it possible to run stock android 2.3 on galaxy s and people will hack in samsung crap, cause some of that crap is quite good. (Phone app, messaging app, music player, all nice.)

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 

Ah, thanks for the update!

Actually, I read that Samsung recently announced (in a tweet, or something) that Gingerbread would be coming to the Galaxy S line. However, the community should provide enough support for future versions of the OS.

Well, as I understand it Nokia releases source as well, though the drivers and closed apps are not released; but correct me if I'm wrong. This is the same with Android.

I would like to see a similar situation as on PCs where hardware drivers are modularized in the stock OS rather than the OS and drivers being shipped as one lump of software tied to a specific device. This would likely make updating and distribution much easier, and if pulled off elegantly, could be a very painless experience. Plus upgrading the OS could be placed directly into the user's hands, or made much easier for carriers.

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 

Do you have the source code for the N900 camera app?
Can you add buttons to it?

What about the source code for the phone app?
Can you add buttons to that?

You can for the galaxy S, for example, Power button was hacked to be used as camera Shutter button.

About drivers I don't know.
About Nexus S, there were reports to both ends, some saying they don't know yet, some saying yes.
Personally I think it won't, cause that will make the Galaxy S last longer, preventing users from buying new phones.

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 

That may a function of the way that APKs are stored, and the xml files that store the UI layout. In other words, it may be possible to 'add' functionality to a bit of closed software. It would be necessary to replace the manifest and augment the application with .dex classes and resources. Signing the app is another story!

Here's an hour long video on the Android APK:
http://sites.google.com/site/io/insi...tion-framework

Of course, the camera app may just be OSS :)

The drivers are most certainly closed for the Galaxy line, but this is hardly unique to Samsung. However, I believe certain Android licenses require that the source be made public.

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 

hey friends take a look.......
first open this;
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/23538/...-galaxy-s.html
and then;
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/24094/...okia-n900.html


n900 is unbeatable untill the n9 launches..
don't worry at all...........

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 

Returned my Galaxy S 4G ... not a replacement for the N900. Yes it did have some things the N900 did not but the lack of a keyboard really started to get too me, internal storage space was another ever present annoying factor. Why have only 128 megs of internal user storage on a modern device? Not all apps install to the SD ... in fact most of the major ones don't. Super Amoled screen ... meh ... wasn't that cool and the flimsy construction of the device kept bothering me. Oh and on the bothering side, no camera button at all, I did not realize how annoying it would be to constantly have to find the camera app to take pictures. Seriously, I got the no flash thing but no hard button for the camera is basically saying we forgot it had a camera.

I got a HTC G2 instead, much better design and solid hardware. The N900 is my on the go Linux terminal now.

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 

The SGS is a replacement for the N900 as both are phones and will be competing for your pocket and your charger. But both do separate things.... separately.

1) Storage on the SGS is pretty good, its more than decent. I dont know why you only have 128mb?!? N900 is more superior with the 32GB's but only a mobile device you should store all your Apps and favourite media into the internal 16GBs, but leave the external for your videos, video recording, songs you dont listen to that often (eg ringtones), and misc (eg/ psx iso).
2) No keyboard .... it makes me cringe every day
3) SGS has the best screen on any phone (lots of pixels, high pixel density, clearest blacks, vibrant colours, no power drain, visible outdoors) but it still has its flaws such as PENTILE DISPLAY!!! and LOW BRIGHTNESS compared to TFTs/IPS.
4) I love camera buttons but I've gotten used to not having it, cause I keep the App on the AppBar (like on iOS) so its just as effective. It'll grow on you.
5) No LED-flash is a bummer, I remember how useful my LG U8360 phone was just because I could hold down the (-) button and get it to act as a mini-torch.
6) You cannot argue with the G2, but if (if only) Samsung wasn't stupid and they released the EPIC 4G with a GSM+3G version ... it would instantly be the best available phone for the android-masses

Re: N900 vs samsung galaxy s
 

both are very good phones but the galaxy s has a lower radiation levels than the n900
they both have low radiation levels compared to other phones on the market .
Galaxy S Sar Levels
Nokia N900 Sar Levels