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maxximuscool 2010-08-19 22:10

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Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 792402)
He meant that there is no opening in the plastic back cover for it...

http://www.engadget.com/photos/nokia...china/#3277340
And from closer look there's no opening in that metallic thing too...
http://www.engadget.com/photos/nokia...china/#3277344

You take the cover off and voila the slot will be on the top. It's not like the N900, it is more like the N95 MicroSD card slot and the SimCard bay also.

I really hope this is a capacitive screen instead of resistive. N900 can be the only device with singular resistive NSeies. This N9 has to have capacitive to make it easier to use. Resistive on N900 is more precise but the quality is not enough to view 1080p video.

flick 2010-08-19 22:11

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Hi, this is Nokia....we realy dont care what your problem is and we will not even try to fix it for you or any of the other stupid ,ignorant buyers of our useless devices. we only care about false advertising and robbing you of your hard earned money.

So if you have a problem with your device, please dont contact us, thats why we made this semi open source platform, so we can keep ignorant idiots like your self and all these other idiots busy.

Nokia.

maxximuscool 2010-08-19 22:17

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Originally Posted by flick (Post 792408)
Hi, this is Nokia....we realy dont care what your problem is and we will not even try to fix it for you or any of the other stupid ,ignorant buyers of our useless devices. we only care about false advertising and robbing you of your hard earned money.

So if you have a problem with your device, please dont contact us, thats why we made this semi open source platform, so we can keep ignorant idiots like your self and all these other idiots busy.

Heil Hitler

Nokia.

Hitler is German
Nokia is Finland

NvyUs 2010-08-19 22:18

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ignore his posts he is spamming the whole forum look at active threads lol

flick 2010-08-19 22:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 792413)
Hitler is German
Nokia is Finland

so your saying that american neonazis are german too?

maxximuscool 2010-08-19 22:22

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Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 792416)
ignore his posts he is spamming the whole forum look at active threads lol

Yeah thank for the heads up! I really hope N9 don't have to have a screwed cover plate. Why can't it be just clip on like the N900 or N97. It makes so much easier to change battery and SIM card.
Also screwed on cover will one day rounded the head of the screws and need new screws.

NOMOS 2010-08-19 22:23

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Originally Posted by flick (Post 792419)
so your saying that american neonazis are german too?

A Hitler was not a Neo

B Hitler was Austrian born.

C Nokia has little to do with A & B

D What a completely tasteless post by you.

E Go away

TheTree 2010-08-19 22:24

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Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 792405)
the quality is not enough to view 1080p video.

Of course not, you're missing almost 2 million pixels. Nobody is going to be putting a 1920x1080 resolution screen in a pocketable device anytime soon.

Rauha 2010-08-19 22:24

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The new forum rules seem to have missed penalty for breaking Godwin's law.

flick 2010-08-19 22:27

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http://boingboing.net/2009/06/22/nok...iemens-pr.html

Nokia=Nazis

maxximuscool 2010-08-19 22:28

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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 791913)
I don,t trust this leak. I hope its fake. I will be pissed if the first meego device with keyboard is a n8 look-a-like

Hey that's just NOKIA. Take a look at the N95, N85, N86, N96....etc they all looks the same. The only thing differences are the newer modern looks of the front face plate and touched up cover or an a 0.2inch different in screen size.

i think Nokia wants to make as much profile as possible from their based design so they don't have to keep paying the designer again and again.

fnordianslip 2010-08-19 22:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rauha (Post 792424)
The new forum rules seem to have missed penalty for breaking Godwin's law.

Much as I hate to waste bits on this sideshow, I'd like to point out that he isn't breaking Godwin's Law, but proving it.

maxximuscool 2010-08-19 22:40

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By the look of it, in the conversation, he stated that it may get a OMAP3430 processor...If this is for real then this N9 will way way way way behind other competitors in the market. Using an underpowered CPU doesn't make the device any better when it come to spec wise. Also this CPU is from the N900 which struggle to run PS1 emu-game.

I was hoping something at least OMAP36XX so we can get a super powerful linux device.


Omap3430:
* New OMAP™ 3 architecture combines mobile entertainment with high performance productivity applications
* Industry's first processor with advanced Superscalar ARM® Cortex™-A8 RISC core enabling 3x gain in performance
* Industry's first processor designed in 65-nm CMOS process technology for increased processing performance
* IVA™ 2+ (Image Video Audio) accelerator enables multi-standard (MPEG4, WMV9, RealVideo, H263, H264) encode/decode at D1 (720x480 pixels) 30 fps, and up to 720p resolutions
* Dedicated Imagination POWERVR SGX 2D/3D graphics hardware gives user interface and gaming developers the power to create rich graphics effects with cinematic realism
* Support for OpenGL ES 1.1, ES 2.0, and OpenVG
* Integrated Image Signal Processor (ISP) for faster, higher-quality image capture and lower system cost
* Flexible system support
o Composite and S-video TV output
o XGA (1024x768 pixels), 16M-color (24-bit definition) display support
o Flatlink™ 3G-compliant serial display and parallel display support
o High Speed USB2.0 On-The-Go support
* Leverages SmartReflex™ technologies for advanced power reduction
* M-shield™ mobile security enhanced with ARM TrustZone™ support
* Software-compatible with OMAP™ 2 processors
* Supports Linux, Android Mobile Platform, Symbian and Windows Mobile


But where is the 720p decoder/encoder of the N900? clearly it support in the processor. Also the processor support 720p recording as well.. hmm.. now i'm wondering about the N900 lol

http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtb...ontentId=14649

mece 2010-08-19 22:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fnordianslip (Post 792435)
Much as I hate to waste bits on this sideshow, I'd like to point out that he isn't breaking Godwin's Law, but proving it.

godwin's law only applies to the discussion afaik. You still have to link nazis to the discussion. You don't prove godwin's by dropping in and presenting a completely off topic rant that mentions hitler. imo. ;)

TheTree 2010-08-19 22:50

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Originally Posted by mece (Post 792450)
godwin's law only applies to the discussion afaik. You still have to link nazis to the discussion. You don't prove godwin's by dropping in and presenting a completely off topic rant that mentions hitler. imo. ;)

Godwin's Law according to Wikipedia: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."

Nokia = Nazis would be a comparison statement, so I'd say he fulfilled the law and lost the argument.

maxximuscool 2010-08-19 22:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mece (Post 792450)
godwin's law only applies to the discussion afaik. You still have to link nazis to the discussion. You don't prove godwin's by dropping in and presenting a completely off topic rant that mentions hitler. imo. ;)

Lol totally agreed, why on earth would he brought up Hitler to maemo forum? Since when Hitler made phone or an employee of Nokia? I just don't get his sarcasm lol. Oh well back on the topic.

mece 2010-08-19 22:53

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Originally Posted by TheTree (Post 792459)
Godwin's Law according to Wikipedia: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."

Nokia = Nazis would be a comparison statement, so I'd say he fulfilled the law and lost the argument.

yeah ok, but he wasn't actually part of the argument... well technically there wasn't even an argument. But he did however start his own argument and lost it at the end of the first post.

EDIT: sorry about the OT. I'll stfu now.

thecursedfly 2010-08-19 22:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 792430)
Hey that's just NOKIA. Take a look at the N95, N85, N86, N96....etc they all looks the same. The only thing differences are the newer modern looks of the front face plate and touched up cover or an a 0.2inch different in screen size.

I think Nokia wants to make as much profile as possible from their based design so they don't have to keep paying the designer again and again.

I think they simply made their research and found some of their test form factors better than others for the targeted public (or simply liked them more), so they based more devices on a similar form factor/design while including different hardware/software to differentiate the models...
This probably gives lesser doubts/confusion in the buyers, while wasting extra time/money on unneeded design research.
And still, I find Nokia to be one of the few to have a big design variation in their different models and to offer a wide range of products so I can pick the one that fits me best...
On the contrary, Apple focuses on one single phone (like the form factor/hw/sw or not.. or let yourself convince by SJ's "amazing", "awesome", "great"...), and other brands on just a few ones.
The only field they lack presence at the moment is the high end one (apart the N900), which is coming hopefully.

And remember that when you build a touchscreen phone you don't have so many options in design... it has to be a parallelepiped with a big screen and be as thin as possible.. you can round its angles a bit but then?
And optional qwerty kb, for which the hinge is a great design factor imo.

Sopwith 2010-08-19 22:56

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NIce thread, 22 pages already, Godwin's law in action, speculations, speculations... Good start for my vacation :)

Has anyone been able to id the screen? Resolution is important, I hope to be nicely surprised...

PS. here is the text I copied (likely incorrectly) from the image of the back of the screen:

4850452 T4850681 CS1.1
S1610061200007 S2
H397VN01 V0

Googling this didn't give me anything...

maxximuscool 2010-08-19 23:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thecursedfly (Post 792464)
I think they simply made their research and found some of their test form factors better than others for the targeted public (or simply liked them more), so they based more devices on a similar form factor/design while including different hardware/software to differentiate the models...
This probably gives lesser doubts/confusion in the buyers, while wasting extra time/money on unneeded design research.
And still, I find Nokia to be one of the few to have a big design variation in their different models and to offer a wide range of products so I can pick the one that fits me best...
On the contrary, Apple focuses on one single phone (like the form factor/hw/sw or not.. or let yourself convince by SJ's "amazing", "awesome", "great"...), and other brands on just a few ones.
The only field they lack presence at the moment is the high end one (apart the N900), which is coming hopefully.

And remember that when you build a touchscreen phone you don't have so many options in design... it has to be a parallelepiped with a big screen and be as thin as possible.. you can round its angles a bit but then?
And optional qwerty kb, for which the hinge is a great design factor imo.

To be honest the design on that prototype is terrible, why would you put double layout of facial LCD? I would prefer the LCD to be right at the edge of the Eluminum and no black frame layout. It's terribly ugly on silver. The design is very similar to N8. If Nokia makes something as nice as Apple iphone 4 in term of design then I believe that it will be a sold out device easy.

At the moment the design doesn't look as much apetite for me may be not for someone else though.

Sopwith 2010-08-19 23:21

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Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 792484)
...At the moment the design doesn't look as much apetite for me may be not for someone else though.

Whatever the design, there will be those who like it and those who don't. I want the 4'' screen with proper resolution, HDMI out, 4 row keyboard, microSD card slot; the color of the case or if the bezel is of two materials is my LAST concern, seriously... I don't wanna start a discussion about this, but think that you'll get used to the looks, but if the specs are wrong it will bug you forever.

maxximuscool 2010-08-19 23:32

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Originally Posted by Sopwith (Post 792496)
Whatever the design, there will be those who like it and those who don't. I want the 4'' screen with proper resolution, HDMI out, 4 row keyboard, microSD card slot; the color of the case or if the bezel is of two materials is my LAST concern, seriously... I don't wanna start a discussion about this, but think that you'll get used to the looks, but if the specs are wrong it will bug you forever.

hahha i know, the Iphone4 got almost perfect specs but missing FM-transmitter :( also keyboard! I hope this N9 equipped with at least a muscle processor like the Hummingbird or 1Ghz A8

droll 2010-08-19 23:37

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Originally Posted by automagic68 (Post 792345)
Visually disecting the internals of a cellphone is hard to do based on pictures...Also along that line of thinking where does the SIM card go? SIM card & MicroSD slots are usually in close proximity on Nokia phones.

look at the top left corner of this picture -> http://www.engadget.com/photos/nokia...china/#3277335

there are 3 contact points which look like something is supposed to be inserted there??

as for the sim card, i would imagine it is obvious from this picture -> http://www.engadget.com/photos/nokia...china/#3277331 the sim card slot is immediately to the right of the left most white sticker (the one with the bar code on it).

somedude 2010-08-19 23:52

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If this N9 or whatever it is called this week gets AWS 3G frequencies with HSPA+ capability like the new Tmobile USA G2 soon to be announced I will buy another nokia if not will wait for one.

captainqtp 2010-08-20 00:05

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Originally Posted by Rugoz (Post 791777)
Not sure if I like the corners. Making them rounder and the phone less long would probably look better.

Bezel looks bigger than it is because of the two colors/materials.

Tilted screen is awesome.



You must be joking. n900 looks like **** compared to this.

I like the N900 looks better, so he's not alone.

maxximuscool 2010-08-20 00:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by captainqtp (Post 792533)
I like the N900 looks better, so he's not alone.

I agreed, if only the N900 is 30% thinner then It would be the best :D

stlpaul 2010-08-20 00:57

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Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 792360)
Did someone change the bug report? I swear i saw some model names starting with RM....

http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTMOBILITY-302

it was edited. original text was:

Environment: maemo6 device with image version "RX-71+RM-581+RM-660+RM-680+RM-696_HARMATTAN_0.2010.20-6_RD_MR0" with libqtm-sensors_1.0.0~git20100429-0maemo1+0m6_armel.deb

EIPI 2010-08-20 01:27

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<OT> Hmmm - I took out the "eagerly awaiting the RX-71" from my signature many months ago. Will have to put it back in now - but my signature will be 3 lines long. Hmmmm... what to do

I guess silver and black is back in for 'high end' electronics. Reminds me of the early 80's when that was the case.

The 5 different "Maemo 6" models that show up in that bug report give me some hope that Nokia will get one of them right (for me).

Perhaps there is a 'mini' version as well, since the pictured device looks a little largish.

automagic68 2010-08-20 01:32

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I'm done underestimating Nokia after today. I am sure the processor will be a 1ghz minimum if not better. Nokia isn't as off track with technology as we think. Remember last year N900 & the Droid were both released with 600mhz processors so they got it right with last years flagship in regards to hardware. If you are thinking the N9 will be thick think again...our eyes play tricks on us because the color silver will make an object look bigger than black would. Infact black is the color that makes things look thinner. Which leads the N900 to look thinner in pictures than you would expect and leading us to believe the N9 is as thick as the N900.

Bijiont 2010-08-20 02:00

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So far I like what I see. . . .

Once we see some actual specs on the thing is when I will make my choice. I was really not wanting another Nokia phone after some of the hassle I had just getting my N900 but this phone looks interesting.

If the N9 has HDMI and USB OTG along with bumped up specs of the N900 I am sold.

maxximuscool 2010-08-20 02:08

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I also trying to avoid to buy another Nokia too. I hope this phone will equipped with bang for the bucks nor bang for the bugs.

I'm scepticle about the applications support on MeeGo at the moment.

vkv.raju 2010-08-20 02:16

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Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 792369)
Here will answered all your questions.

So, this design is even worse I should say! :( To use/change either the microSD or the SIM, you have to first remove the battery. Atleast on the N900, we were able to change the microSD without removing out the battery.

EDIT: Looks like I was wrong. You can use/change both the microSD and the SIM without removing the battery. @maxximuscool has it covered here!! http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=197

Bijiont 2010-08-20 02:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vkv.raju (Post 792577)
So, this design is even worse I should say! :( To use/change either the microSD or the SIM, you have to first remove the battery. Atleast on the N900, we were able to change the microSD without removing out the battery.

I suppose, but I am not sure about anyone else but I think I removed my SIM and or SD card maybe once since I have had my N900. . . I mean slap a 32Gb Micro and your set to go. If you have to hot swap your cards then maybe it's time to evaulate what you carry on your phone.

Not an attack to anyone just saying :D

vkv.raju 2010-08-20 02:33

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Originally Posted by Bijiont (Post 792579)
I suppose, but I am not sure about anyone else but I think I removed my SIM and or SD card maybe once since I have had my N900. . . I mean slap a 32Gb Micro and your set to go. If you have to hot swap your cards then maybe it's time to evaulate what you carry on your phone.

Not an attack to anyone just saying :D

In my case, I had to interchange the SIM a lot of times. Removing the battery to interchange the SIM is not a clean idea. Each time I had to do that, I have to switch off the phone and once the new SIM is placed in, I have to set the date, time and stuff. So, I would appreciate the design where it allows me to change these things without removing the battery.

On the contrary, if N9 comes with a dual-SIM, I should be even more happier!! But it isn't that likely!!

law138 2010-08-20 02:35

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Im sold if it has a powerfull processor runs programs in the background that looks as slick as meamo 5 has Flash 10.1 ,lens cover and im able to change the battery.

Clubberlang 2010-08-20 02:36

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I wonder if these *******s will have properly supported vsync?

hardkorek 2010-08-20 05:13

N9 info on Engaget
 
I'm not sure if someone didn't post it already but here is the link:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/19/n...ilds-of-china/

somedude 2010-08-20 05:21

Re: N9 info on Engaget
 
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=60666

volt 2010-08-20 06:02

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Originally Posted by Noma (Post 791872)
This proto has same amount of keys than the N9's, and there is very nicely placed scandinavian letters. So don't worry :)

They're in the wrong place, but I guess that'd work. It'd only disable you from typing on any other keyboard after a while.

jerryfreak 2010-08-20 06:39

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::masturbates furiously::


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