maemo.org - Talk - BackTrack 5 (arm) released

Got it working, but is it just me or is it ABSOLUTELY unusable due to slow speed?:D
EDIT: Hm the problem is more of that vnc crashed randomly.. like it just stops running and my vnc viewer crashes :mad:

Yeah, speed wise I'm doing fine on a 1ghz overclock. It could also be an issue of your memory card's speed.

For crashing, I found that my N900 was running out of memory awfully fast. If you do a `free`, you'll likely see that you have 3-4 megs free at most. To solve this, I ended up using gparted on a linux box to shrink my data partition on my mem card and added a swap partition. Once the swap partition is added, you can either add the swap partition to /etc/fstab, or run `swapon <partition dev name>`, and it'll stay till you reboot. Run `free` to test if it worked, you should see available swap space. That solved random crashing for me at any rate.

arnoldux

2011-05-16 19:43

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unhuman (Post 1007660)

same here, i canmake it work (sometimes) and presence vnc crashes randomly :S

i use ir overclocked to 850 ideal

mr_pingu

2011-05-16 19:48

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

by whom does the keyboard work normally? and what are your settings?

Gi0	2011-05-16 19:58

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

Quote:

Originally Posted by sequel7 (Post 1007667)

I ended up using gparted on a linux box to shrink my data partition on my mem card and added a swap partition. Once the swap partition is added, you can either add the swap partition to /etc/fstab, or run `swapon <partition dev name>`, and it'll stay till you reboot. Run `free` to test if it worked, you should see available swap space. That solved random crashing for me at any rate.

Sounds like i should also create a swap partition.To paraphrase someone famous "50 MBs should be enough for everyone" huh? How much are you using?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_pingu (Post 1007680)

by whom does the keyboard work normally? and what are your settings?

Check some posts back, i ve asked the same question, got some answers that -unfortunately- didnt work. Post your settings too, just in case we find a pattern for us that keyboard doesnt work.

mr_pingu

2011-05-16 20:15

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

Hardware keyboard layout: English, Nederlands
yes virtual keyboard
yes Word completion
yes Auto capitalisation
yes Insert space after word

1 language: English Dictionary: English
2nd language: Nederlands Dictionary:Nederlands

Maybe its with the locale settings not in keyboard setttings....

sequel7

2011-05-16 20:17

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gi0 (Post 1007686)

Sounds like i should also create a swap partition.To paraphrase someone famous "50 MBs should be enough for everyone" huh? How much are you using?

I decided to go for overkill and gave it 2gb, but all things considered you should be comfortably fine with 512mb or so I would figure. Memory card speed will have a huge impact on the speed of your system using swap on it, so keep that in mind. I don't remember what card I'm using in mine, but it's running perfectly reasonably.

mr_pingu

2011-05-16 20:30

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

Possible to make about 800 mb swap of eMMC? I don't have a memory card yet :(

Gi0	2011-05-16 20:33

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_pingu (Post 1007696)

Maybe its with the locale settings not in keyboard setttings....

Gave them a shot, still no luck. Give it a try just in case.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sequel7 (Post 1007698)

That much huh?I m thinking on creating it on system partition, not the card itself.Thanx for the tip!

mr_pingu

2011-05-16 20:51

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

Did you noticed this message when starting vnc?
/home/user # qchroot /home/user/MyDocs/bt5/bt5.img /mnt/bt5/
..stripping trailing slash...
Mounting...
using image file: /home/user/MyDocs/bt5/bt5.img
fs type is img
Don't know img: Using ext2 file system
Using ext2 file system
mounting /home/user/MyDocs/bt5/bt5.img on loop
.../home/user/MyDocs/bt5/bt5.img mounted on loop0
.
..
...
....
mount: mounting /var/run/pulse on /mnt/bt5/var/run/pulse failed: No such file or directory
Everything set up, running chroot...
[root@chroot: /]export USER=root
[root@chroot: /]vncserver -geometry 800x470
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LANGUAGE = (unset),
LC_ALL = (unset),
LC_PAPER = "en_US",
LC_ADDRESS = "en_US",
LC_MONETARY = "en_US",
LC_NUMERIC = "en_US",
LC_TELEPHONE = "en_US",
LC_MESSAGES = "en_US",
LC_IDENTIFICATION = "en_US",
LC_MEASUREMENT = "en_US",
LC_TIME = "en_US",
LC_NAME = "en_US",
LANG = "en_US"
are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
xauth: (argv):1: bad display name "Mr_Pingu:1" in "add" command

New 'X' desktop is Mr_Pingu:1

Starting applications specified in /home/user/.vnc/xstartup
Log file is /home/user/.vnc/Mr_Pingu:1.log

mr_pingu

2011-05-16 20:52

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

sequel7

2011-05-16 20:56

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_pingu (Post 1007735)

Did you noticed this message when starting vnc?
.
..
...
....

yes, but it still seems to work fine for me.

azkay

2011-05-16 21:39

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

I was getting locale "warnings" too when I apt-get install xserver-xephyr'd.

mr_pingu

2011-05-16 21:48

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

Do you run it from android to prevent keyboard issue?

Also it doesnt utillise the inbuilt swap so when RAM is full it just crashes =/

But the strangest part is still: the keyboard problem

sequel7

2011-05-16 23:13

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_pingu (Post 1007771)

Do you run it from android to prevent keyboard issue?

Also it doesnt utillise the inbuilt swap so when RAM is full it just crashes =/

But the strangest part is still: the keyboard problem

I've actually not been using the qchroot method, I've been using the bootbt script, modified as detailed on my blog - https://seventhoctober.net/2011/05/b...on-nokia-n900/

You might trying doing it that way. It shouldn't make any difference, but maybe it does.

daperl

2011-05-16 23:17

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

For getting rid of those locale messages, maybe there's something that helps here:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...&postcount=107

SuperDumb

2011-05-17 00:24

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

You can get rid of this error messages by typing this inside the chrooted image before starting vnc:

Quote:

export LANGUAGE=en_US
export LC_ALL=en_US

I did not find anything usefull yet to get that keyboard up and running.
I tested a Xorg.conf, used the whole /lib/modules from maemo, every time it ends up with strange symbols.

sequel7

2011-05-17 00:51

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperDumb (Post 1007816)

You can get rid of this error messages by typing this inside the chrooted image before starting vnc:.

After looking at https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/15388, I found that the following fixes mine:

locale-gen
export LC_ALL=en_US.utf8

arnoldux

2011-05-17 00:57

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

i dont mind about getting those errors, has long has backtrack works, the problem is that when i open a terminal window inside backtrack i get all kind of stuff, including those errorrs:

LANGUAGE = (unset),
LC_ALL = (unset),
LC_PAPER = "en_US",
LC_ADDRESS = "en_US",
LC_MONETARY = "en_US",
LC_NUMERIC = "en_US",
LC_TELEPHONE = "en_US",
LC_MESSAGES = "en_US",
LC_IDENTIFICATION = "en_US",
LC_MEASUREMENT = "en_US",
LC_TIME = "en_US",
LC_NAME = "en_US",
LANG = "en_US"

with my language of course, are you guys referring to those? or when mounted?

even so, for the people that have problem with the swap, you can hex edit the iso emmc file to get a lot more swap memory and app install memory, i did that when i flashed, i gues you guys wont flash but its the easiest way to get more mem wihtout the trouble of gparted and otther partition apps

cheerrs

maxxdout

2011-05-17 01:39

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperDumb (Post 1007816)

You can get rid of this error messages by typing this inside the chrooted image before starting vnc:

I did not find anything usefull yet to get that keyboard up and running.
I tested a Xorg.conf, used the whole /lib/modules from maemo, every time it ends up with strange symbols.

right there with ya. i found a thread back in the archives that semi documents the keyboard problem on ubuntu 9.10 arm but the modules and xorg on that thread dont work haha. this is driving me nuts but also keeping me occupied... so i guess i cant complain

jamesgloucester

2011-05-17 02:05

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gi0 (Post 1007037)

Had an idea about the keyboard(..wonder why i havent checked earlier). I checked Text Input on my N900 settings. I had Hardware Keyboard set to Greek. Turned it to English,Netherlands full of hope but still no luck. Messed up characters.

To those without a keyboard problem, whats your Text Input Settings on your N900?

@jamesgloucester
Answer the above question pls

Edit:Also, does anyone have UKeyboard installed ?

Sorry for not getting back sooner.

Keyboard settings are UK, Nederlands
1st language UK, dictionary UK
No 2nd language

I can fix the locale issue using the method described by sequel7 (tried both US and GB)

Still getting keyboard issues though :(

I don't have ukeyboard installed (could installing this help?)
EDIT: I'm using presenceVNC

Gi0	2011-05-17 02:33

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

Same here,tried a couple of compinations on Locale and Text Input, nothing seems to work. I have the UKeyboard installed, no help also.
I ve also tried presenceVNC besides VNC Viewer on my N900. I ve also tried RealVCN while connecting from my windows machine, no luck again.
/me puzzled

mr_pingu

2011-05-17 05:27

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

Quote:

Originally Posted by arnoldux (Post 1007820)

even so, for the people that have problem with the swap, you can hex edit the iso emmc file to get a lot more swap memory and app install memory, i did that when i flashed, i gues you guys wont flash but its the easiest way to get more mem wihtout the trouble of gparted and otther partition apps

cheerrs

Well, that's not really the problem. Its more like when I run free in the chrooted xterm I see only 2-4 mb free of RAM and about 500 mb free of swap but still Backtrack/ presence VNC crash constantly...

maxxdout

2011-05-17 12:35

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_pingu (Post 1007883)

FYI real vnc doesnt seem to crash very often, it runs nicely in fullscreen. also im thinking this meego n900 keymap possibly be made to work with bt5. look here https://meego.gitorious.org/meego-de...rge_requests/4
[/URL] looking more into this after work, my eyes were burning last night and i had to stop

maxxdout

2011-05-17 13:14

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

those keymaps i was just talking about are used in this kubuntu ARM setup script!!! https://wiki.kubuntu.org/ARM/n900/ as part of nokia-n900-configs. looks promising!

sequel7

2011-05-17 14:12

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxxdout (Post 1008115)

FYI real vnc doesnt seem to crash very often, it runs nicely in fullscreen

do you mean a real vnc client on the N900? I didn't see an install package for it, was I just not looking hard enough?

maxxdout

2011-05-17 14:44

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

sorry, the default vnc viewer. it has same symbol as realvnc. it doesnt have the nice toolbar like presence but once we figure out the keyboard issue mapping custom keys shouldnt be an issue

sr00t

2011-05-17 14:50

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

Getting this error guys.

Code:

Nokia-N900:~# qchroot /home/user/MyDocs/downloads/BT5-GNOME-ARM/bt5.img /mnt/bt5/

..stripping trailing slash...

Mounting...

using image file: /home/user/MyDocs/downloads/BT5-GNOME-ARM/bt5.img

fs type is img

Don't know img: Using ext2 file system

Using ext2 file system

mounting /home/user/MyDocs/downloads/BT5-GNOME-ARM/bt5.img on loop

Mount failure!

mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on /mnt/bt5 failed: Invalid argument

Cancelling chroot...

Code:

Nokia-N900:~# md5sum  /home/user/MyDocs/downloads/BT5-GNOME-ARM/bt5.img

4f378f01b35b598d0b7f7b8177499cb2  /home/user/MyDocs/downloads/BT5-GNOME-ARM/bt5.img

Nokia-N900:~#

Searched through the post and I didn't find any solution.. I don't see any missing files..
Please help me!

sequel7

2011-05-17 15:00

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

Quote:

Originally Posted by sr00t (Post 1008226)

mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on /mnt/bt5 failed: Invalid argument
Cancelling chroot...[/CODE]

...

Searched through the post and I didn't find any solution.. I don't see any missing files..
Please help me!

Does /mnt/bt5 exist?

misiak

2011-05-17 15:46

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

Quote:

Originally Posted by sr00t (Post 1008226)

Getting this error guys.

Code:

[...]

using image file: /home/user/MyDocs/downloads/BT5-GNOME-ARM/bt5.img

fs type is img

Don't know img: Using ext2 file system

Using ext2 file system

mounting /home/user/MyDocs/downloads/BT5-GNOME-ARM/bt5.img on loop

Mount failure!

[...]

Please help me!

Well, maybe not very creative, but what if you try to rename bt5.img to bt5.ext3 for example? I haven't checked if bt5.img is ext2 or ext3, I just mounted it on my PC and copied all files to my custom ext3 formatted sd card and forgot about .img file :P

You should be able to rename bt5.img to bt5.ext3 via file manager, then just replace in the command bt5.img to bt5.ext3 ;)

If it doesn't work, just rename bt5.ext3 back to bt5.img (to avoid future confusion).

Btw, after some tweaking and copying scripts from Easy Debian (and "apt-get install xserver-xephyr wmctrl") I've managed to run gnome desktop in chroot, but it crashed in less than 10 seconds - there were parts of BackTrack desktop and Maemo desktop visible alltogether on the screen - and all apps totally lost all focus, could not click anything and had to reboot... happened 3 times in a row while trying to use different DISPLAY variable values. I stopped trying again due to lack of time. And "apt-get install lxde" and trying to use unmodified Easy Debian scripts crashed on installing some packages (lxde-icon-theme or something similar was the problem, it returned errors with "broken pipe" and could not continue). Tried with both uncommented Ubuntu repositories (it looks like this image is just modded Ubuntu arm...? look at /etc/apt/sources.list) and copied repositories from Easy Debian's /etc/apt/sources.list, both seem to fail at installation.

About my attempts to run desktop in chroot: if anyone wants to try, that's what i made:
- uncommented repostitories in /etc/apt/sources.list
- "apt-get update" and "apt-get install xserver-xephyr wmctrl"
- copied scripts from Easy Debian - /usr/bin/xephwm5 and other which it uses and tweaked them
Then it was trying to start but showed some strange things on screen and had to reboot phone.
- tried "apt-get install lxde" and copying all /usr/bin/xeph* and /usr/bin/set-focus and /usr/bin/startlxde* scripts (and few others maybe, I don't remember) and run it without modification - on my phone the installation of lxde failed.

sr00t

2011-05-17 15:56

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

Quote:

Originally Posted by misiak (Post 1008276)

Thanks for the quick answer misiak.
I did an "mv bt5.img bt5.ext3" but it shows the same output, only with "fs type is ext3", but then the same than before error shows up :-/. Thanks anyways.

If someone more knows whats happening, just tell me.

EDIT:
BTW trying to qchroot in MyDocs's VFAT partition, it is ok?

misiak

2011-05-17 16:12

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

Quote:

Originally Posted by sr00t (Post 1008287)

Yes, Easy Debian also stores Debian image on MyDocs partition (or SD card) and it works, so it's not the case...

And I want to add to my previous post that after a reboot now "apt-get install lxde xserver-xephyr wmctrl" worked. After copying of /usr/bin/xeph* and /usr/bin/startlxde* and /usr/bin/set-focus (and maybe other scripts, just see if it complains) command "xephwm5" opened a BackTrack desktop, just in lxde, not default Gnome (and apps in the menu are not showing correctly), but hey, it's some progress :P Anyway, if I understand correctly and this is just modified arm Ubuntu, we could just add the backtrack arm repositories to some clean Easy Debian image (or maybe better - Ubuntu which works on N900- NITUbuntu?), apt-get all packages, customize lxde menus and have "Easy Backtrack" far easier... I will try to do this now (if I succeed, I will upload the image), for me now better news than "BackTrack 5 (arm) released" is

Code:

deb http://all.repository.backtrack-linux.org revolution main microverse non-free testing

deb http://source.repository.backtrack.linux.org revolution main microverse non-free testing

deb http://armel.repository.backtrack-linux.org revolution main microverse non-free testing

in /etc/apt/sources.list, because it basically means there is now existing official Debian repository with BackTrack tools running in armel Debian :)

mr_pingu

2011-05-17 17:03

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

Everybody having keyboard issues, use sequels script. https://seventhoctober.net/2011/05/b...on-nokia-n900/,

It worked for me now I need to try the other vnc client as presence crashes alot :(

Misiak that would be nice too, I already was thinking of making a Backtrack version from Easy Debian. Didn't do anything yet, just some thinking ;)

misiak

2011-05-17 17:18

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_pingu (Post 1008371)

Misiak that would be nice too, I already was thinking of making a Backtrack version from Easy Debian. Didn't do anything yet, just some thinking ;)

I'm actually thinking of customizing Ubuntu from http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=66531 or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=58083 as it would be closer to this original BackTrack image (it looks Ubuntu-based anyway) ;)

mr_pingu

2011-05-17 17:34

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

It not only looks but BackTrack is based on Ubuntu ;) From version 5 of backtrack they use 10.04, Backtrack 4 used 9.04 if I recall correctly when I was using backtrack on my laptop some time ago ;) Then I got a N900 and stopped playing with backtrack but still dreaming to run it on the N900. Now its possible :D

Well we have actually 2 choices: 1 Make Backtrack from Easy Debian
2 Make backtrack from Ubuntu ARM (10.04 would be best I think)

SuperDumb

2011-05-17 23:14

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

Big thx to sequel for modifying the script. Runs sweet.

daperl

2011-05-17 23:51

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

@sr00t

Here are some repositories to add to /etc/apt/sources.list:

Code:

deb http://repository.maemo.org/ fremantle/sdk free non-free

deb http://repository.maemo.org/ fremantle/tools free non-free

Then try:

Code:

sudo apt-get update

sudo apt-get install file

file <file path>

This should be the signature:

Code:

Linux rev 1.0 ext2 filesystem data (large files)

misiak

2011-05-17 23:57

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

1 Attachment(s)

In my attempts to get rid of VNC, I got it to show gnome-desktop in Xephyr window while in chroot (like Easy Debian), but it rebooted after few seconds (although it showed desktop for a moment - progress! :) )... Probably due to N900 out of RAM (it was reaching 100% at the moment of reboot), but I need to investigate further. What I did (if you want to follow, first download the backtrackscripts.tar file attached to this post, these are modified Easy Debian scripts):
WARNING! Only for "professionals" at the moment, just need some feedback and maybe help ;P

Code:

# n900 Maemo part

sudo gainroot

mount /path/to/img/file/or/partition /mnt/bt5

cd /mnt/bt5

tar -xf /path/to/downloaded/backtrackscripts.tar

mount -o bind /dev /mnt/bt5/dev

mount -o bind /proc /mnt/bt5/proc

mount -t devpts none  /mnt/bt5/dev/pts

mount -o bind /tmp  /mnt/bt5/tmp

mount -o bind /var/tmp  /mnt/bt5/var/tmp

mount -o bind /dev/shm /mnt/bt5/dev/shm

mount -o bind /sys /mnt/bt5/sys

leafpad /mnt/bt5/etc/apt/sources.list

# now uncomment (remove "#" from the beggining of) all lines beginning with "deb"

# save the file, exit

# so now into chroot

chroot /mnt/bt5

apt-get update

apt-get install xserver-xephyr wmctrl

useradd -m misiak

su -c xephwm5 misiak

Now a new window should open (disregard any Easy-Debian or LXDE captions, now these are just scripts from Easy Debian with few modifications) and you should see BackTrack loading. If someone really followed my steps, please report if it rebooted after loading the desktop or it worked ;)

Edit: it seems adding user and running xephwm5 as user ("misiak" in my case) makes it load fully and run for a little longer, but still reboot :/ Investigating further (creating swap partition on microsd now and will try to use "swapon /dev/mmcblk1p4" right after chrooting)

Gi0	2011-05-18 01:01

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

@Sequel7
Post a reply with your script attached or the pastie link.Just to get my thanx and the credits you deserve:)

sequel7

2011-05-18 01:55

Re: BackTrack 5 (arm) released

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gi0 (Post 1008748)

@Sequel7
Post a reply with your script attached or the pastie link.Just to get my thanx and the credits you deserve:)

Quote:

Originally Posted by sequel7 (Post 1007805)

Glad it helps :-)

I'd rather not post the pastie link directly, as the steps leading up to it are a little different than the ones listed here.

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