Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

How i can disable flash player, when no need surf web with flash ?

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

Fixed problem with wrong SDK for http://romaxa.info/fennec builds.
Now it should be installable on PR1.2

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

gives me an error:
aegis-loader: Failed loading policy for 'fennec::/opt/firefox/lib/fennec-13.0a1/fennec'

aegis-loader: Failed loading policy for 'fennec::/opt/firefox/lib/fennec-13.0a1/plugin-container'

What do you think it's caused from?

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

I think it is from different opt/app-name/ folder and app-name. fixed path to /opt/fennec, hope it will help
Also uploaded fixed version of nightly package (last one was a bit broken due build error)

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

Last time I tried Opera, and it seems does not have latest html5 support features.. WebGL, Video.. also CSS3 transforms animations et.c.

http://romaxa.info/css3d/cube3d/cube_fast.html
http://learningwebgl.com/lessons/lesson05/index.html
http://camendesign.com/code/video_fo...body/test.html

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

I know it has been discussed throughout the thread, but why does Nokia themselves help develop flash for our beloved N9 but stick it on Firefox/Fennec?!

Why not for the stock browser, at a slight loss as to why they did this but I guess I can live with it. Just curious tbh.

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

Stock browser, based on Old Webkit2 branch which has not very good plugins support (does not have)
Also it very far from certification quality with that branch... but I guess it would not be hard to add that support by hacking:
http://gitorious.org/+qtwebkit-webki...it-webkit2-dev ...
Firefox/Fennec has pretty much stable plugins-backend support, also it multi-process out of the box, which helps to not kill Browser when flash crashes :)

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

Thanks for that, clarifies things for me :)

Shame Nokia couldn't sort the stock browser and make it a bit more plugin friendly, maybe use a newer version of WebKit and technically its wouldn't be hacking if Nokia did it themselves, which is what I am still kinda hoping they will do at some point.

Or Fennec/Firefox will catch up speed wise and I will never use that lightweight tabless browser that Nokia provided us with :P

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

I've made simple IPC embedding API, which allow to embed gecko in the similar way as Webkit2
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Embedding/IPCLiteAPI
With that I have very high responsiveness and performance (60FPS for everything without lags using simple QML view)
But main problem is that we need to build Qt native or QML UI for that, if that is done, then we could get native mobile browser which is as fast as stock browser, and would have better support from engine side (keeping mozilla based stuff in sync with upstream is much easier)

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

^Yup this is what Ive been talking about folks, damn I hope this gathers momentum.

And check out the newest builds of Fennec godofwar424.
They're def. getting better performance wise compared to a mth+ back.

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

We'd make most of the UX native, but plugin/add-on arch would still be XUL based right?

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

How did you deal with the missing dependencies in PR1.1?

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

You don't need to any more, Romaxa's released a deb for 1.1 users, & the Fennec builds are fine now too
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...12#post1176612

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

Is that something that's being worked on or in a near future?

Btw, Do I have to uninstall my current version of Fennec before I install a nightly build?

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

Thanks. I just installed the 11.0 version in the release folder.
I went to html5test.com and it scored 333 points with 9 bonus points. It's up there with desktop browsers. It switches orientation faster imo now too.

We should all send romaxa a paypal of 5 or 10 bucks.
What's your paypal Romaxa?

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

Dude search it through Ovi store not from adobe.

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

He's a Nokia employee but he still deserves a donation IMO :)

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

Oh oops it's probably not allowed then. Nevermind.
By the way if Romaxa is reading this. Can you go to yahoo sign in and try to comment on a news article the text does not appear. Also try the same at cnn and also try using the arrow keys from mesinpt it doesn't work on one of those forget which one though and at cnn it will cut you off at four lines and shove the text down so you can only half see it underneath the keyboard.

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

new update for Firefox on the OVI Store to version 11.0 :)

edit: and update for Flash Player:D

edit2: is still slow :( and version for the flash is 10.1.105.6

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

Thanks!

There is still this bug with notifications from store updates... That must reopen! I thought it was fixed... but not...

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

This update for FP10.1 is merely to add PR1.1 compatibility.
The Fennec builds on Romaxa's site are now compatible with PR1.1/PR1.2 too.

N.B.
If you decide to use one of Romaxa's builds & you have official Fennec installed.
You have to 1st uninstall Fennec before you install his builds.
You don't have to do this if you're already using one of his builds.

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

Try one of the aurora or nightly builds at romaxa's site ;)

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

Well maybe so... Still this update says it is "Version 11.0"... Didn't notice any speedups, so... "much talk, nothing to write about..."

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

I got a marked improvement w/the nightlies (aka central) & aurora (IIRC)
http://romaxa.info/fennec/
Not stability issues at all yet either, touch wood...

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

But Firefox is a burner. Its spending 11-15% even in the background.

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

Yes, it is running "flat-out" even in backround.. Really proving how well N9 multitasking is working. Try watch youtube and swipe it to back... cool... (not for power consumptions but...)

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

Just close Firefox when you're not using it, it will remember your open panels anyways.

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

Just received and update to both Firefox and Flash player, not sure what this changes though.

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

I don't think it change anything important but it updates firefox to version 11 and for the flash IIRC Romaxa said it's just an update to update to add compatibilty for PR1.1

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

I wasnt able to install flash on PR1.2, with these updates I can.:)
Firefox seems smoother too (however that could be psychological)

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

For the smoother part :p
I tried today Firefox (10.0.3 without Flash) on SG-S2 and that was the smoother experience :p
On the N9 it's anywhere near smooth but when romaxa will finish the QT UI it should be smooth .

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

Is that something he's working on or just what we hope for? I know he's mentioned that it would make Fennec faster, but not that he'll actually do it.

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

I've tried to install nigtly fennec from romaxa website but I'm getting this and fennec just starts with a blank page and I can not click on anything . Anyone had sucessfully installed nightly fennec so far ?




RM696-07-1_PR_001:~# /usr/sbin/incept /home/user/MyDocs/fennec_14.0~a1_armel.deb
Do not continue unless you fully trust the package you are about to install.
Press <Enter> to cancel, or enter your root password to proceed.

Password:
Package fennec has package signature (origin 'com.nokia.maemo/local')
Selecting previously deselected package fennec.
(Reading database ... 47401 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking fennec (from .../cache/inception/tmp/pkg_GdLSAo) ...
aegis-installing fennec (from 'com.nokia.maemo/local')
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of fennec:
fennec depends on libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.14.0); however:
Package libpango1.0-0 is not installed.
dpkg: error processing fennec (--install):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
fennec
incept: Installation failed (256)
RM696-07-1_PR_001:~#

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

Did you uninstall Nokia Store version before installing the nightly Fennec version?

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

First time nope (my bad) , but then I purged nightly and firefox and tried to install again nightly and these are the results . :(

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

The latest nightly I installed was yesterday and it worked. Sorry for asking stupid questions, but did you allow installation of other sources than from Nokia Store?

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

Yes , I fixed the problem , it was some missing dependency :D . I managed to install it succesfully but it seems to be as slow and laggy like firefox . :(

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

The speed difference if very subtle, maybe even just something imaginable.

This could be fixed with a QT UI, but I haven't got an answer to if that's in the works or just a wish. Imagine Fennec as fast as the stock browser, but still with all it's tools....that would be something special! :)

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

Fennec as fast as stock browser or stock browser with flash support like fennec ... the dream of any N9 user . :rolleyes:

As someone said here , in 2012 a smarphone without a good browser with flash support is a handicap .

Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 

Yes, but I would prefer Fennec with speed.