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Straycat 2011-12-27 18:27

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kyllerbuzcut (Post 1139200)
...

PS- just out of interest have you connected it to a computer yet? Also has it asked you to update once you did?

...

Yes, I have connected to a computer yet. Without any issue in mass storage mode. I can see both devices on my xp machine.

Kies won't detect it. Maybe because the debug mode, I haven't try more.

And I have updated once yet, from GB 2.3.5 to GB 2.3.6 where I am running like a charm.

Mr. Incredible 2011-12-28 11:50

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
I had the Note for a week.

Pros:
really big screen, beautiful colors, capazitive screen, screen sensibility
fast dualcore, ability to overclock to 1600MHz or more, lower voltage
many apps, google maps, adaffix
fast GPS fix
many custimozed ROM's and kernels available
2500 mAh battery
recoring videos @ 1080p

Cons:
no hardware keyboard
WLAN and 3G signal is really bad
no hardware key to switch between tasks
too many apps/services running in the background with to many permissions
I need more steps to call a random person than on N900
you need to create a google and samsung account to use many things

The Note fits in my pants pocket but when you sit or drive it's really uncomfortable.
The Cons (mainly the hardware keyboard) are the reasons I went back to my N900

lsolano 2011-12-28 12:49

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Incredible (Post 1142679)
I had the Note for a week.
Cons:
no hardware keyboard

That was for me the #1 Con of any phone against the N900, however, in a couple of weeks, I type faster than the N900 thanks to the predictive XT9.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Incredible (Post 1142679)
WLAN and 3G signal is really bad

I'd consider to check if there is an issue with your antennas. Mine (and a couple of friends) reception is strong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Incredible (Post 1142679)
no hardware key to switch between tasks

Absolutely. I really miss shortcutd that let me switch between tasks by focus-pressing the camera button.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Incredible (Post 1142679)
I need more steps to call a random person than on N900

Agree again. Just to open the keyboard, start typing and be able to call/text a contact is faster than any other method I've used. Nevertheless, I've learnt to use the find feature and I can locate a contact very fast. Also, for looking for contacts and apps as well, 'Gesture Search' has been of great help.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Incredible (Post 1142679)
you need to create a google and samsung account to use many things

The worst part that stopped me to switch to Android before my N900 died. However I do not synchronize anything and I don't have a Samsung account at all.

coderedcomputing 2011-12-28 20:32

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Incredible (Post 1142679)
WLAN and 3G signal is really bad
no hardware key to switch between tasks

Confused on the first one, I'm getting better WLAN and 3G signals on my Note than I did on the N900, sitting at the same desk in the same office... better signal.

No idea what you mean about the hardware key, long press on the Home key brings up the task manager along with the last 6 recent apps, if I need something beyond the 6 that are showing the one extra click to get the task manager up seems quite a minimal con...

coderedcomputing 2011-12-29 14:23

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
Seems this phone that is too huge to use has made a couple sales:

http://androidos.in/2011/12/samsung-...in-two-months/

http://phandroid.com/2011/12/29/sams...e-coming-soon/

http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2011/12...-after-launch/

...and supposedly confirmed that it will be sold in the USA :)

casketizer 2012-01-08 03:36

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
I'm pretty close to buying this baby. Can someone tell me if the headset socket fully supports normal headphones? My GalaxyTab does not, incase you wonder why I ask. I have to plug my Sennheisers in and then pull them out about 3mm to make them work. (In time I constructed a simple adaptor).

lsolano 2012-01-08 05:30

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by casketizer (Post 1147320)
Can someone tell me if the headset socket fully supports normal headphones?

Yes it does. Any 3.5mm headphones/speakers work.

te37v 2012-01-13 04:24

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
Hey all! I am currently an engineering undergrad and I am considering this as my main phone and note taking device. I have been wanting a 10 inch tablet to take notes on for a while (loose leaf is for suckers), but Samsung just had to make this and make me consider it. So my question to you is, is this a practical device to take notes from engineering classes with lots and lots of equations? Do you think the screen is large enough? Obviously I am used to 8 by 11 paper, but I am all for change! Thanks!

Kangal 2012-01-13 05:26

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by te37v (Post 1149852)
Hey all! I am currently an engineering undergrad and I am considering this as my main phone and note taking device. I have been wanting a 10 inch tablet to take notes on for a while (loose leaf is for suckers), but Samsung just had to make this and make me consider it. So my question to you is, is this a practical device to take notes from engineering classes with lots and lots of equations? Do you think the screen is large enough? Obviously I am used to 8 by 11 paper, but I am all for change! Thanks!

Very hard to say since I am a med student.
It is very quick and handy for short notes.

Advanced notes with lots of little digits may get finnicky. I'd advise you try before you buy.

Or if you can afford it, buy it and try it. If it doesn't work well, sell it -you will get your money back since this is on high demand.

te37v 2012-01-13 06:08

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
Yeah it would be best if I could try it before I bought it, but I live in the US. I broke out the stylus on the n900 and I must say writing digitally is a breeze, but obviously the n900's screen is wayyyyyyyy to small. I just don't know if 5.3" is enough!!!

I'm stuck between the Asus Padfone, Samsung Note, and just a plain old tablet!

Edit: If you were to take notes in the horizontal (landscape) layout is it easy to scroll down when u run out of space to continue writing? hmm but it costs more than $700!!! snap, it seems more practical to just buy the asus transformer

Cue 2012-01-13 08:04

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
I was a physics undergrad back when the origami project launched. The origami project was the introduction of the UMPC (which would probably be called a tablet today). At the time I convinced myself that I NEEDED this device to take notes. What I actually found after buying one was that it was completely impractical. I just didn't have the speed I had with pen and paper with equations and diagrams and I would end up having to stop taking taking notes and copy a colleagues after the lecture. The only thing that was useful was recording the lecturer.

Digital note taking may have advanced since then but i gave up on it a long time ago. Having said that, I do still use my N900 occasionally when I don't have a pen and/or paper.

Kangal 2012-01-13 12:56

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cue (Post 1149914)
I was a physics undergrad back when the origami project launched. The origami project was the introduction of the UMPC (which would probably be called a tablet today). At the time I convinced myself that I NEEDED this device to take notes. What I actually found after buying one was that it was completely impractical. I just didn't have the speed I had with pen and paper with equations and diagrams and I would end up having to stop taking taking notes and copy a colleagues after the lecture. The only thing that was useful was recording the lecturer.

Digital note taking may have advanced since then but i gave up on it a long time ago. Having said that, I do still use my N900 occasionally when I don't have a pen and/or paper.

I couldn't have said it better myself.
You might hear of some lag issues of the NOTE, they are real. When hitting Home, Power, or AppDrawer things always pause for 0.4sec which is a notable pause for the user.
The reason I'm saying this, is because Samsung has made this thing to run at a fraction of its capabilities (it seems) and that the upcoming ICS update is to fix most issues. Perhaps it will make taking notes even more accurate and faster.

If it doesn't, then this thing wont be as advanced as a notepad and pen. I think the best alternative for you is the HTC Flyer (7in, Honeycomb, Pen, Notetaking features)

mscion 2012-01-13 13:17

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
Well, if you prefer typing notes, I have found that the Magic-Pro makes a great little btkb called ProMini BT-Touch2. It's about the same length and a little narrower than the Galaxy Note. All the main keys, including Ctlr and Fn. The Tab key didn't work for me but instead use ctrl-i. It has a little touch pad that controls a cursor on the Galaxy Note screen so you can point and click to open apps. Oh yes it even comes with a laser pointer which keeps my cat happy!

Kangal 2012-01-13 13:17

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
I've purchased some accessories and wanted to chime in.

Firstly a carbon fibre-leather-hard plastic case.
It fits tight, is a little thick, quite resistive to stabs and falls but definitely no otterbox. Its quite good looking, but wont fit on any car holders or my pockets anymore. I got it for $6 (free postage), I dont use it anymore.

To transform it to a premium finish, I would advise to have a look at rocksiccion's craftsmanship

There are two types; cheap <$15 ones...these work as normal, usually false advertising with some properties added.
Then there are expensive >$30 ones. These ones actually reduce gloss, glare, increase conductivity (finger/pen) and do so without hindering the screen's sharpness/colour ratio.
A cheap one is enough for most people, because what you really want is to prevent scratches .A screen protector is a must.

I also purchased a ($7) car holder from "telegaming" its made of plastic but is a quality piece. The phone slides in and "clicks" into possition. Very stable and very funtional (it can twist to any angle u desire).
I would've loved a physical mount in the car, but this is the next best thing.

From the same seller, I bought a $8 kit (car charger, 3 screen protectors and the case).
The screen protector and car charger are the usually cheap things, but they work more interesting is the case:

Black TPU and Grey Silicon.
There's a kickstand (silicon) which is part of the backing/mainframe. The Kickstand works well.
The case is heat and knife-proof.
Also tamper proof, but dont drop it from a 2.5+ metre height.
The sides are TPU which is textured, greatly help with grip.
All the holes and ports (pen) are easily accessible.
The buttons are covered but NOT hard to press.
Whole case is quite thin, so it still fits in my pockets easily.
Its great to whip it out in front of friends, raise the kickstand and watch a video on a desk surface without having to touch it (now if only the loudspeakers were louder and clearer)

Verdict: 9/10 ...This case is a MUST HAVE for any NOTE owners.

JohnLF 2012-01-13 13:20

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
This is a bit off-topic here, but for note taking, it would be cheaper and far more practical to use something like a smart-pen - see http://digitalsmartpen.com/

These start around £120 I think, and can digitise your notes as well as record the audio from the lecture. You write on special pads of paper, so there is an ongoing cost to take into account but it would be much cheaper than a Galaxy Note!

te37v 2012-01-13 18:42

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
Thank you all for the input on note taking! As of now I think I am just going to purchase the Asus Eee Pad Transformer for $400 and get a stylus/digitizer. The Note is way too expensive, I'll keep my N900 for a phone as it's one of a kind.

Kangal 2012-01-14 03:18

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by te37v (Post 1150218)
Thank you all for the input on note taking! As of now I think I am just going to purchase the Asus Eee Pad Transformer for $400 and get a stylus/digitizer. The Note is way too expensive, I'll keep my N900 for a phone as it's one of a kind.

Bad move.
You can't get a pen for the Transformer. Only those $2 capacitive styluses, I have one and its very inaccurate and a constant hit and miss.

If your point is to take notes via typing, then forget about tablet+keyboards and go grab an Ultrabook like the Toshiba Z830.

Btw, I had one of those digital note transcribers...wasn't even used for a week. My HP PDA did a better job than those things.

te37v 2012-01-14 08:06

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
^lol i plan on handwriting my notes. but yeah bestbuy has a very lenient return policy so im trying out the transformer, acer a200/500, and samsung galaxy tab 8.9 to ser which is ideal. i really like the acer :/

geneven 2012-01-14 08:49

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
From the perspective of a note-taker in my chaotic environment, I would say that it is much easier to lose a note taken on paper than electronically, and I find that searching for key words does not work well on physical paper.

白い熊 2012-01-17 13:27

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by titan (Post 1128157)
also, rooting and installing Ubuntu in chroot on a sdcard was nearly as easy as EasyDebian. You can chroot or ssh into it and or access X11 via VNC.

Hi:

I'm doing the same that you are, very happy with the Note, and running a Debian chroot on it.

Could you help me with step by step instructions on how you ssh into the Note, as it seems I'm daft, and can't connect... I've sshed into other Android devices before, but can't connect with this one...

Basically, I've installed sshdroid to run the ssh server on the Note.

It runs the server on 192.168.1.100 which I know is wrong, as this is a local address already accessible on my PC, when pinging it, without the USB cable connected. Now when I connect the USB cable, the PC doesn't bring up the usb0 unterface, instead two devices /dev/sdb and /dev/sdc get created. These can't be mounted, as no disk partition info is identified on them...

I think, the trick to connect is in Android USB settings, which on the other phone let me chose what to do when the USB is connected, i.e. mount disks, do nothing etc.

However, the note's USB settings only give me the option to turn on mass storage, which is not what you want to enable ssh access...

I have USB debugging turned on on the phone.

What am I missing?

OMFG: Just realized all these people talking about SSHing into Android devices are doing it over wifi, that's why the 192.168.1.100, I don't wanna do that, wanna do it over the USB cable. Have you succeeded? How? (Can't do it over wifi anyway, I've tried)...

Rider 2012-01-17 18:05

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
You must use wifi, USB is not a network connection.

白い熊 2012-01-17 18:24

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
I don't see why. I've accessed the Motorola Droid 3 via USB perfectly, surely it must be possible on the Note.

lsolano 2012-01-18 01:42

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 白い熊 (Post 1151956)
I don't see why. I've accessed the Motorola Droid 3 via USB perfectly, surely it must be possible on the Note.


Go to settings, wireless, usb utilities.

I can not understand why usb settings are in there :-)

白い熊 2012-01-18 07:05

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
And that's what I'm saying: there is nothing in the USB settings on the Note, just an option to connect mass storage, no "PC mode", no "none" like on the other phones.

That's why it doesn't bring up the usb interface on cable connection, methinks...

That's usually why the USB settings are there, but did you try to check actually check them? Or do you have something else there, is it ROM based? I have stock European ROM.

lsolano 2012-01-19 01:54

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
(my Note is in Spanish, so I can not give you exact names of the menu)

Try this:

Settings / Application / Development / USB debugging

With that option enabled I was able to use a SyncMate, a software to sync my calendar.

My phone has is stock by the way :-)

marmota 2012-01-28 17:58

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by titan (Post 1128157)
also, rooting and installing Ubuntu in chroot on a sdcard was nearly as easy as EasyDebian. You can chroot or ssh into it and or access X11 via VNC.

I have switched from the N900 to the galaxy note and I am trying to have a debian/ubuntu/any linux working on it similarly to easy-debian.
Which procedure did you use?
Is the app "linux installer" worth to try?

Thank you very much in advance!

debernardis 2012-01-28 19:22

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marmota (Post 1157053)
I have switched from the N900 to the galaxy note and I am trying to have a debian/ubuntu/any linux working on it similarly to easy-debian.
Which procedure did you use?
Is the app "linux installer" worth to try?

Thank you very much in advance!

I made a partition on my external sdcard - 3.5 GB - and installed debian on it. Refer to http://www.mayrhofer.eu.org/debian-on-android

My startup script is in http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...postcount=4074

Don't forget defining your dns in /etc/resolv.conf on the debian partition!

This worked well both on Galaxy Note and Galaxy Tab :D

marmota 2012-01-28 19:41

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by debernardis (Post 1157090)
I made a partition on my external sdcard - 3.5 GB - and installed debian on it. Refer to http://www.mayrhofer.eu.org/debian-on-android

My startup script is in http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...postcount=4074

Don't forget defining your dns in /etc/resolv.conf on the debian partition!

This worked well both on Galaxy Note and Galaxy Tab :D

Great! Thank you!
One more question:
Would be possible to use existing images? Such the one for easy debian or, maybe better, other existing for android?

(Grazie!)

WhiteWolf 2012-01-28 19:47

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
I have installed "BackTrack 5", too.

Using "Linux Installer" I installed "Debian 6" and "LibreOffice."

debernardis 2012-01-29 12:13

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marmota (Post 1157096)
Great! Thank you!
One more question:
Would be possible to use existing images? Such the one for easy debian or, maybe better, other existing for android?

(Grazie!)

I have never tried Qole's Easy Debian images. They could work though, why don't you try and report? :D

Alternatively I could make another updated debian image, and put it somewhere to download. Maybe later, now I can't help scratching the itch to upgrade the Note to latest "la4" firmware. :cool:
(I have been resisting for a fortnight but today the urge is too strong)

EDIT the upgrade was perfect, and resulted in a much smoother Note, and (the reason I did it) the possibility to sync my S-memo notes with Evernote.

marmota 2012-01-29 18:01

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by debernardis (Post 1157326)
I have never tried Qole's Easy Debian images. They could work though, why don't you try and report? :D

Alternatively I could make another updated debian image, and put it somewhere to download. Maybe later, now I can't help scratching the itch to upgrade the Note to latest "la4" firmware. :cool:
(I have been resisting for a fortnight but today the urge is too strong)

EDIT the upgrade was perfect, and resulted in a much smoother Note, and (the reason I did it) the possibility to sync my S-memo notes with Evernote.

Great for the update! Did you use mobile odin pro?
I am waiting a little bit because I still have to work out how to do it from a PC with linux.

Concerning debian:I needed latex working on the note by tonight. So I went for what I hoped to be the simplest, LinuxInstaller. It worked perfectly (so far). In half an hour a debian chroot was up and running (without graphical interface). And it seems it did not destroy anything major :-P

But for sure I would like to try with Qole images as they are more complete with desktop manager and the like. And more fun too.

I will report here on any development.

Thank you very much so far!

kyllerbuzcut 2012-01-29 22:10

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
To fix the USB problems ( I had that too) try "usb mass storage watcher" and just enable all the options. Works even on my ancient windows pc now. Interestingly, while I had these problems I discovered that kies works via wifi pretty well and you can move/copy/etc. to and from the note and pc from there. Also- if you have twonky or some other virtual server running then the dlna thingy works fine with that over wifi also.


To increase the speaker to a reasonable level get an app called "equalizer" ( yep with a z). Select a custom preset and keep the 60hz one where it is and increase everything else to about 12. That's where I find it nicest anyway but you may like to tinker to suit your own needs.

So anyway- has anyone used the n900 as a bluetooth keyboard on it yet? I haven't got round to trying yet myself. Maybe next weekend. Maybe it will just work or maybe it will take time and lots of hassle, but if anyone has already done it then please post. The aim would be to plug the note into a TV and play games or browse the web on it using the n900 from the sofa. (you must have all seen those mini bluetooth keyboards with touch pads etc. - why buy one of those if the n900 will do the job. Perhaps the screen could even be a touchpad?)

Cue 2012-01-30 00:31

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kyllerbuzcut (Post 1157572)
To fix the USB problems ( I had that too) try "usb mass storage watcher" and just enable all the options. Works even on my ancient windows pc now. Interestingly, while I had these problems I discovered that kies works via wifi pretty well and you can move/copy/etc. to and from the note and pc from there. Also- if you have twonky or some other virtual server running then the dlna thingy works fine with that over wifi also.


To increase the speaker to a reasonable level get an app called "equalizer" ( yep with a z). Select a custom preset and keep the 60hz one where it is and increase everything else to about 12. That's where I find it nicest anyway but you may like to tinker to suit your own needs.

So anyway- has anyone used the n900 as a bluetooth keyboard on it yet? I haven't got round to trying yet myself. Maybe next weekend. Maybe it will just work or maybe it will take time and lots of hassle, but if anyone has already done it then please post. The aim would be to plug the note into a TV and play games or browse the web on it using the n900 from the sofa. (you must have all seen those mini bluetooth keyboards with touch pads etc. - why buy one of those if the n900 will do the job. Perhaps the screen could even be a touchpad?)

I've used the N900 as a bluetooth keyboard/mouse on ICS (Galaxy Nexus) using bluemaemo, worked really well. One annoying thing is that the homescreen does not support landscape so the screen kept flipping depending on what I was doing, which was slightly disorientating.

rcolistete 2012-01-30 01:34

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cue (Post 1157622)
I've used the N900 as a bluetooth keyboard/mouse on ICS (Galaxy Nexus) using bluemaemo, worked really well.

Could you detail how have you done ? BlueMaemo on N900 and which software on Android ?

Cue 2012-01-30 01:44

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rcolistete (Post 1157642)
Could you detail how have you done ? BlueMaemo on N900 and which software on Android ?

On Android you don't need to install anything (ICS, not sure about other versions). On the N900 install bluemaemo and from bluemaemo pair with your Note, that's it, it works as expected.

rcolistete 2012-01-30 23:06

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cue (Post 1157644)
On Android you don't need to install anything (ICS, not sure about other versions). On the N900 install bluemaemo and from bluemaemo pair with your Note, that's it, it works as expected.

I have used my Nokia N810 as keyboard and mouse for my Asus Transformer TF-101 with Android 3.2.1. Just by using BlueMaemo, very simple and impressive !

Thanks for the tip.

fpp 2012-01-31 13:24

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
Here's a tip for those having "culture shock" with Android, and missing their N900's xterm and other goodies...

Look up "Spartacus terminal IDE" on the Market and install it ASAP!

It's free, even open-source, and works with non-rooted devices.

The documentation effort that comes with it is really, really seldom
seen in this category and makes it quite user-friendly. A refreshing
change from the usual "if you want bash you must know what you're
doing, right ?" mentality...

It also provides a custom keyboard that changes everything, a real beauty,
especially as it's also available in other editors, and apps like
SL4A... Now I miss the N900's hardware keyboard a bit less :-)

A must-have for ex-maemo users for sure...

rcolistete 2012-01-31 13:27

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fpp (Post 1158387)
It also provides a custom keyboard that changes everything, a real beauty,
especially as it's also available in other editors, and apps like
SL4A... Now I miss the N900's hardware keyboard a bit less :-)

"Hacker's Keyboard" is also a must.

fpp 2012-01-31 14:29

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
Yes it looks similar, if a bit more system-oriented -- ie less non-ascii characters, and more special keys (like F1-F10 etc.).

kyllerbuzcut 2012-01-31 16:57

Re: Samsung Galaxy Note
 
Gave the bluemaemo thing a quick go last night. managed to install and pair with the note but couldn't actually 'do' anything from there. I'm not using ICS so that could be a problem. Has anyone made it work on Gingerbread yet? Will give that keyboard thing a try too when I get a chance.


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