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I was thinking either a wiki or in the past we've had a successful use of Google Docs, but the place to store it would really be the defining factor. But I'd happily contribute.

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So there are limitations for Android ACL :)

BTW, speaking of ACL. Does it support Android actions besides ACTION_MAIN (which is called when you simply try to open app)? For example, can Android gallery app, that has ACTION_VIEW defined for pictures, be used as default picture viewer in Jolla?

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Well, on Android it is available as a paid-for application, so presumably Nuance could do something similar for the Jolla (and I wonder if the Android one would run on Jolla ...). Given they already have the N9 version and w00t has confirmed that the framework is little different it might only be a small effort, and thus worth them doing.

It'd still be nice to know if Jolla have approached Nuance to suggest they do it.

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I set up http://piratepad.net/JollaFAQ (I avoid signing into anything Google related on my main browser nowdays) - if anyone wants to start dumping questions there/organising, I'm happy to help answer & find answers.

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att, Swype-like input method itself is not licensed. For example, I saw some Sony Xperia phones with native VKBs that support Swype-like input out of the box.

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It seems I cannot install developer mode on he device for some reason.
When I go to the settings/developer mode and click the accept button there, the device seems to load something but nothing changes.
Also I cannot find a terminal application or anything like that from the store. Strange... :(

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Terminal comes with developer mode.

Make sure you have network connectivity & set up Jolla account on device

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Looks very sparse/weak compared to GDocs, but, will do the job I guess...

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I have done that, I can access the store OK.
Is the device supposed to restart after developer mode installation (like N9 does)?

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The FAQ looks perfect to me, I've added what I can, but I need to do some work. I'll take another look after lunch

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It says that it will restart the device but for me it didn't do that.

I also couldn't install developer mode at first. Installation of developer mode package failed and after that I noticed that all other installation from Jolla store also failed (of course, no proper error messages). I had to reset the phone to the factory condition to get installations working again. Had to configure the whole phone again from scratch. After that I was able to activate developer mode without problems.

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Guys battery life is running out like crazy on my jolla.
Anyone else having the same issue?

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Ah christ not this again. What are you doing with your phone? in the terminal type "top" without the quotes and see if anything is using a lot of the CPU constantly.

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Just a thought. I changed covers from my poppy red to the white and it would not let me enter the jolla store. The was an error that TOH was missing, which I nearly missed too.

So that could be an issue for some.

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Since only 16 users are allowed to edit at the same time, here the link for read-access:

http://piratepad.net/ep/pad/view/JollaFAQ/latest

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Touchpal X is swype alternative

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I know, and I would have if I could get ssh to the phone (to test with lockscreen on). But apparently win7 does not like the phone at all :/

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Link? 10char

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Ditch win7. :p

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Not a complaint, but an observation... original iPhone came without MMS support. Same as the N900. I wonder if MMS is just overlooked - as well as a few other things. Anybody see other overlooked things that are also part of initial mobile OS releases?

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in yandex app store TouchPal X Keyboard

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Next to lacking XMPP, SIP seems to be a missing core function.
I trust Jolla is working on it to gain my continuous support and to lift Sailfish as the best mobile telecom OS

Meanwhile does anybody care to test if SIP for "there-must-be-an-app -for-that-Android" works?

The csipsimple program is pretty clean and no Playstore needed.

https://code.google.com/p/csipsimple/

My thanks

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From everything I've read so far, MMS is the only thing that concerns me. I wasn't aware that N9 came without MMS initially. I did know about the iPhone.

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Just another observation: at least where I live MMS is very expensive in comparison to sending an email, so to be honest I never ever used it. Perhaps only a few folks actually utilise that service? In contrast, SMS is pretty much the same in terms of email being a lot better, but because it's often unlimited or you get a fair amount of them in your plan, it is widely used _except_ in Japan for example where they always used email :-)

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http://ime.service.cootek.com/intern...l/TouchPal.apk

for touchpal X

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I'd love to have MMS support in Jolla.
Please, please, pretty please?

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This is just a general comment, but it does involve MMS. This is also a personal statement, not something necessarily company-endorsed.

Shipping a working mobile OS is already a lot of work. The more features you add, the more work is involved - but the amount of people you have to split that work in our case is quite constant (and the lesson enshrined by the "mythical man month" is that adding a bunch more people won't necessarily solve that problem any more quickly - it may make the situation worse, even).

So you have three essential parameters you can tweak: features (+/-), quality (+/-), schedule (+/-). Pick any two.

We chose to ship something that we hope is of an acceptable quality on our target schedule, and look at adding more features through software updates. Hopefully when we look back at this in 6 months, that'll seem like a good choice. :)

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I may be wrong, but the N9 had MMS support from the start.

The N900 however came without, but then there was this excellent Application named fMMS from frals which closed this gap.

Anyway, I also miss MMS support and would love to see that added soon.

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Is it safe to change the root password? :confused:

passwd SmthingElse

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Missing MMS can rise so much more passion compared to SIP and XMPP.
Seems priority goes to entertainment rather than hardcore communication features here.
I have always regarded MMS as an expensive gimmick that briefly accompanied the first camera phones of which the pictures quality was hardly usable for "look I am really here" type of picture messages.

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regarding the missing DLNA support:

Does this have to be supported by the OS?
What are the chances that Apps like Helium will work?
What about android apps like "BubbleUPnP"?

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That is exactly the use case for MMS, to send picture postcards to your grandma who does not have email.

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I think, the last MMS i sent was back in 2008 with E71... i don't know anyone who still uses this.

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the only thing i cannot live without is offline maps and live drive navigation. so this is something i really want to see fixed before anything else in jolla phone.

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Out of 10 MMS i've sent, maybe 3 actually reached their destination, 1 immediately, and 2 arrived days later. And all of them were expensive.

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Aptoide is another good alternative app store. http://m.aptoide.com/installer?lang=AR

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Totally understood... for the record, let's just call this off-the-record and between two guys...

I do not doubt this in the least. In fact, I applaud Jolla for pulling it off, shutting a lot of naysayers up. From hereon, it's all about adding features, connecting with the community and growing that market.

Great things lie ahead of Jolla. I'm pretty damn sure of it.

Been there, done that... left it to much smarter people than I (read: you guys at Jolla and the like).

I know the mantra of "pick two" rather well. You guys chose well. Put it to you this way; I am patiently waiting in the US for my ability to buy one to support Jolla. I've put aside my planned purchase(s), pulled out my N9 (just in case) and will invariably purchase a Jolla phone.

All because of what you guys have accomplished, will accomplish and how you chose to go about doing so. I'm impressed - not that that means anything to anybody in particular besides myself.

See above. You guys chose well. Now... I'll shuddap and go back practicing patience. Kudos Jolla team. Thanks to this entire thread for sharing your experiences. It makes it all that much better in my opinion for all of us here salivating and listening to the pros and cons of Jolla.

Correction: It was the N900 that didn't initially have MMS. The N9 had issues with MMS on T-Mobile. Sorry about the confusion I might have caused.

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That's all I'm asking. I read somewhere, that Jolla plans to release updates monthly, but nothing official. Even releases every 6 months would be far more the average Android phone ever gets.

And before I forget, that was a good and reasonable post. Thank you!

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I understand that is the beautiful potential of it.

In reality I see grandma puzzle her brain over what to do with: "you have received a picture message from... go to following link to receive on her 20 lines of text monochrome old (Nokia) phone. :rolleyes:

To do:

XMPP full featured implementation, not only chat -> Jolla
SIP: full featured implementation -> Jolla

in parallel: port fMMS (MMS hopefully from Maemo) -> dev fMMS
eventually integrate MMS -> Jolla

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Well, sorry about that. I have a flatrate with my subscription at Swisscom (Switzerland).