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seiichiro0185 2015-02-19 16:44
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
Just got home from work and installed the update, went OK (although gave me a moment of horror when the "Jolla" bootscreen came on twice in a row, so I suspected a reboot loop, but continued to boot fine afterwards).

All working so far, no apparent bugs. New Browser is nice but thanks to the browser-nightlies from openrepos I already knew that ;)

pichlo 2015-02-19 18:07
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by coderus (Post 1461322)
@pichlo try downgrade
Thanks, that seems to have worked. Although it has also brought back all the things I had previously removed, such as Tutorial :)

I immediately got an upgrade notification, trying attemp #2...

EDIT:
Phew, this was the most painful update so far, but I finally got there on attempt #3.
#2 ended up in the same "cannot update now, try later" screen after the reboot as #1, but this time SSH saved the day.

sillycrimes 2015-02-19 20:13
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
Is Android audio fixed?!

szopin 2015-02-19 20:41
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sillycrimes (Post 1461382)
Is Android audio fixed?!
No stuttering/hitches in mixradio if that is what you mean

szopin 2015-02-19 20:44
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1461345)
Thanks, that seems to have worked. Although it has also brought back all the things I had previously removed, such as Tutorial :)

I immediately got an upgrade notification, trying attemp #2...

EDIT:
Phew, this was the most painful update so far, but I finally got there on attempt #3.
#2 ended up in the same "cannot update now, try later" screen after the reboot as #1, but this time SSH saved the day.
Man I need to stop doing updates on the bus/at work (especially early opt-in ones). I even forgot to uninstall all patches, but seem to be the lucky one so far

sillycrimes 2015-02-19 21:12
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by szopin (Post 1461386)
No stuttering/hitches in mixradio if that is what you mean
Yeah, the bug mentioned here https://together.jolla.com/question/...1-other-issues

meet.vino 2015-02-20 03:27
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
Updated to the latest Opt in version. Is the battery draining sooner now? Anyone noticed?

karan5chaos 2015-02-20 04:50
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by meet.vino (Post 1461414)
Updated to the latest Opt in version. Is the battery draining sooner now? Anyone noticed?
I haven't noticed it yet .. battery life seems to be the same and it always drains faster when aliendalvik is running . Ram management is pretty good though in this update .

coderus 2015-02-20 04:56
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by meet.vino (Post 1461414)
Updated to the latest Opt in version. Is the battery draining sooner now? Anyone noticed?
Yeah it's very fast! I can't even write this message without being connected to charger! Please Jolla fix it asap!!

seiichiro0185 2015-02-20 05:22
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by meet.vino (Post 1461414)
Updated to the latest Opt in version. Is the battery draining sooner now? Anyone noticed?
Didn't notice anything strange so far, but my Jolla was only off the charger for some hours in the evening after the update. Will keep an eye on it today.

benny1967 2015-02-20 06:26
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by meet.vino (Post 1461414)
Updated to the latest Opt in version. Is the battery draining sooner now? Anyone noticed?
yes, it is.

Zoloo 2015-02-20 06:51
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by meet.vino (Post 1461414)
Updated to the latest Opt in version. Is the battery draining sooner now? Anyone noticed?
yes, it is! please jolla fix it asap!

Morpog 2015-02-20 08:12
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
I don't get your problem, battery isn't draining faster for me, it's the opposite.....

Also everything feels more smooth, app startup time seems to be faster too and ram management (OOM...) is alot better. Weather app in events screen is also cool.

andreas1 2015-02-20 08:35
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
This update is by far the best in ages :) It restores some faith to Jolla

love the
-weather widget
-ambience color change
-overall smoothness
-maybe apps dont get force shut down that much now?!

hmm, Battery would seem to run out faster, but I noticed this already after the update before this latest one.
From event screen if you click a notification of android telegram message, the app shuts down, not yet fixed, uuh...

Fellfrosch 2015-02-20 09:51
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by KylliOrvokki (Post 1461179)
I have ticked that box but not yet seen this update.
Has anyone received this from basic settings check?
Same problem here, signed in on the day they announced the possibility for early access updates. Butt still no update available.:confused:

pycage 2015-02-20 10:24
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fellfrosch (Post 1461444)
Same problem here, signed in on the day they announced the possibility for early access updates. Butt still no update available.:confused:
Have you tried to check manually in settings?

djbengan 2015-02-20 11:01
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
Am i the only one who cant find how to change color in ambiances? :o

andreas1 2015-02-20 11:05
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by djbengan (Post 1461449)
Am i the only one who cant find how to change color in ambiances? :o
Gallery, ambience, choose favorite ambience, appearance

m4r0v3r 2015-02-20 11:10
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by explit (Post 1461244)
system was updated to 1.1.2.13 via zypper ref; zypper dup.
version --dup was not interrupted and system was at good state. version --dup installed about 8 packages and gave me the message to reboot. After reboot it was resetted to factory and content of internal emmc was also deleted...

Can you describe please, why
zypper ref; zypper dup will not update all components of the system?
it updates all repositories and download all packages with newer versions from them. So what is wrong?

Thx
i did what you did, no issues here though. when i ran the version --dup it simply installed one package for alien-dalvik

Fellfrosch 2015-02-20 12:27
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pycage (Post 1461446)
Have you tried to check manually in settings?
Of course, and I have checked if the Checkbox in my profile still is ticked.

Zoloo 2015-02-20 12:39
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
after this update all notifications are not works anymore:mad:

pichlo 2015-02-20 13:13
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by andreas1 (Post 1461437)
-maybe apps dont get force shut down that much now?!
Yes, that reminds me of a certain story. A true lecture in making the customers happy ;)

ste-phan 2015-02-20 13:37
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by andreas1 (Post 1461437)
This update is by far the best in ages :) It restores some faith to Jolla

-maybe apps dont get force shut down that much now?!
My Jolla has seen some serious drawer time since the latest update that featured these out of memory handling "improvements" that looked as if they were the brainwork of a nervous sales and marketing department urgently needing the device to resemble Android more closely

So before going to play with the new ambiance color effects etc I went off testing multitasking, and while the out of memory agent is less aggressive I saw IRC disconnected, calender and calc being closed etc..

As far as multitasking is concerned, it feels like a step forward after two steps back.

Fellfrosch 2015-02-20 13:50
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
Downloading now ...
I had forgotten, that I've two accounts and I activated the checkbox on the wrong one. Shame on me... :o

ejjoman 2015-02-20 14:01
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoloo (Post 1461460)
after this update all notifications are not works anymore:mad:
Seriously? You opted-in into an RC of an update (early access) and get mad, because something does not work for you?!

BTW: I don't have a problem with notifications at all, and have not heard of anyone else having such problems.
Try factory reset.


To the update:
I simply love it, my Jolla is so smooth and fast - very amazing :)
I find the new weather widget very nice - a bit more spacing around it and some nice animations (especially when the values are changing) and it would be perfect.
Warehouse is usable again for me, no more freezing.

Question:
Is it just me, ore are the spacings in pulley menus bigger now? I have the feeling, that the pulley menus are now longer than before the update.

coderus 2015-02-20 14:36
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
Updated my girlfiend's Jolla with "The First One" TOH attached. First go to account settings and checked box. After 5 minutes goes to Settings and checked for updates - update appeared. Downloaded and installed successfully.

veeall 2015-02-20 14:45
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ste-phan (Post 1461473)
My Jolla has seen some serious drawer time since the latest update that featured these out of memory handling "improvements" that looked as if they were the brainwork of a nervous sales and marketing department urgently needing the device to resemble Android more closely

So before going to play with the new ambiance color effects etc I went off testing multitasking, and while the out of memory agent is less aggressive I saw IRC disconnected, calender and calc being closed etc..

As far as multitasking is concerned, it feels like a step forward after two steps back.
I have had these settings applied at boot since vaarainjärvi, and they have been working for me, no autoclose apps, no drastic out of memory situations even when massively multitasking.

Code:
#!/bin/bash

echo "80" > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
echo "32 24" > /proc/sys/vm/lowmem_reserve_ratio
echo "100" > /proc/sys/vm/percpu_pagelist_fraction
echo "98304" > /proc/sys/vm/extra_free_kbytes

echo "0,0,0,0,0" > /sys/module/lowmemorykiller/parameters/minfree

nieldk 2015-02-20 16:19
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
I see very many improvements.

But. To mention my favoritr.
about:config

;)

Tor is about to make thunder

abyzthomas 2015-02-20 16:44
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by coderus (Post 1461484)
Updated my girlfiend Jolla ...
I knew you love Jolla, but ... ? :-)

Anyway, I think it is a great update. Everything is smooth again.

Weather app is good, but need settings for it. It shows the Weather in Celsius only. In USA (we, the unsupported countries) use Fahrenheit. Or I haven't figured out how to change it.

I don't think I see any difference in battery usage. It is about 6 hours since I unplugged and I am at 71%. Pretty day-after-update heavy usage. Looks normal to me.

Coderus, I don't get the voicemail notification anymore. The uninstalled and reinstalled, but no luck. It worked great before the update, I really appreciate if you take a look at it when you get a chance.

ejjoman 2015-02-20 16:49
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by abyzthomas (Post 1461492)
Weather app is good, but need settings for it. It shows the Weather in Celsius only. In USA (we, the unsupported countries) use Fahrenheit. Or I haven't figured out how to change it.
Settings > Apps > Weather

abyzthomas 2015-02-20 16:56
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ejjoman (Post 1461493)
Settings > Apps > Weather
I seem to always forget about the settings > Apps

It worked. Thank you.

Zoloo 2015-02-20 17:25
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
im going back to 1.1.1.27 Vaarainjarvi and Happy now :)
New RC version is SUX ,trust me. i know it's not final build,but really sux

ste-phan 2015-02-20 17:57
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by veeall (Post 1461485)
I have had these settings applied at boot since vaarainjärvi, and they have been working for me, no autoclose apps, no drastic out of memory situations even when massively multitasking.

Code:
#!/bin/bash

echo "80" > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
echo "32 24" > /proc/sys/vm/lowmem_reserve_ratio
echo "100" > /proc/sys/vm/percpu_pagelist_fraction
echo "98304" > /proc/sys/vm/extra_free_kbytes

echo "0,0,0,0,0" > /sys/module/lowmemorykiller/parameters/minfree

Thank you very much for the tip. But why should I have to tweak my device to have normal behaviour (in line with Nokia legacy, advertisements and previous behavior of Sailfish)?

I get a headache thinking about having to root / jailbreak Android for normal usage and that is one of the reasons I choose for Jolla.

This is giving Jolla phone a bad name and is at best not creating a nice showcase to lure Android users to move to Sailfish.
Probably those Android users enjoy less aggressive application killing on their 2GB - 3GB RAM power phones.

Other observation:

Opened 12 applications, a dirty mix of native and Android ones and left them idle for about 4-5 hrs.

No significant battery drain. OK! :cool:

Fellfrosch 2015-02-20 18:10
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
Hmm I don't really love the update! Not that I am really unlucky, there a lot of improvements. Update worked fine most things work smooth.
But I have formated my SD-Card with BTRFS and shared space with android. That doesn't work anymore. Not that I haven't expected that. But I don't really understand, why there is still no official solution for that problem. I hope that they will have a solution when they release the tablet and sailfish OS 2.0

So all in all Update is nice, but I don't want to tinker after every update.

abyzthomas 2015-02-20 19:38
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
2 Attachment(s)
My first lipstick crash after update.

I had about 12 apps open for a while. All native except WhatsApp.

I think I closed one app and all of a sudden the open apps screen froze. App covers do not respond to touch, so I could not switch to apps or use swipe actions. I can scroll up and down, but screen does not clear the open apps covers. App covers shows through on the lock screen and icons.

See screenshots
Attachment 36605
Attachment 36606

tangent 2015-02-20 19:41
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
I too have btrfs formatted microsd card on my Jolla and it is "shared" with aliendalvik user space.
Or used to be as it is nether working for me.
But I got unlucky after pre-Update 11 and device is rebooting frequently whenever the shared microSD is in place.
Even if I systemctl disabled the mounting script.
Same occurred with after Update 10 and I had to factory reset phone and format the microSD card.
I can't wait for Jolla tablet arrival so I can dumb phone media to it.
But the new fixes and improvements in this update are great and my phone is stable enough without microsd.
Nevermore btrfs mircoSD and extra tinkering.

pichlo 2015-02-20 19:49
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by abyzthomas (Post 1461496)
I seem to always forget about the settings > Apps
I can't blame you. Using global settings for individual apps settings was a Bad Design Choice [tm].

Leinad 2015-02-20 20:21
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fellfrosch (Post 1461501)
Hmm I don't really love the update! Not that I am really unlucky, there a lot of improvements. Update worked fine most things work smooth.
But I have formated my SD-Card with BTRFS and shared space with android. That doesn't work anymore. Not that I haven't expected that. But I don't really understand, why there is still no official solution for that problem. I hope that they will have a solution when they release the tablet and sailfish OS 2.0

So all in all Update is nice, but I don't want to tinker after every update.
you just need to mount the android stuff later than before. i got it solved on my devices, but i'm not at a computer right now. can post my solution tomorrow

Fellfrosch 2015-02-20 20:26
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
hey leinad, that would be great! Thanx in advance!

MartinK 2015-02-20 20:38
Re: SailfishOS Update11 discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1461506)
I can't blame you. Using global settings for individual apps settings was a Bad Design Choice [tm].
I think the bigger issue is that third party Harbor apps can't use the global application settings menu, so most app develpers don't use it and users don't know where it is because no applications use it. :)


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