Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Unfortunately still:

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

I installed bluez5 to the tablet as it had bluez4. No change.
Then I noticed the package droid-config-tbj-bluez5 isn't installed even though droid-config-tbj-bluez4 was earlier.

I tried to install it but unfortunately the package conflicts with bluez-configs provided by droid-config-tbj-onda-v820w-v3-1-2.i486 and cannot be installed.

If I try removing bluez-configs first I get a warning that I will end up with a broken system which is something I don't want to try now since BT isn't essential for me.

(Basically just shots in the dark, but thought I'd share anyway)

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

If your outcome is anything like mine, you will need to install the sensors once again: zypper in droid-compat-v820w-droid-system

I don't think that's a good idea. Some other devices are also still running Bluez4 for good reasons.

Presumably, only TheKit will be able to help us with this one.

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Sure, but luckily it was easy enough to change back to bluez4.

Regarding BT I saw this while going back the thread. So BT was probably working in 2.0.5.6 and broke after that.

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

TheKit actually mentioned it was still working for him. I still suspect the missing package droid-systemd-tbj to be a relevant factor in this.

Something completely different: Does your Onda actually support GPS? Mine claims to support it, but when I use GPSInfo it never even "sees" any satellites. Contrary to this the Nexus5 saw dozens within seconds. So, either the Onda "lies" about its GPS capabilities or it's simply broken in my device.

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

To my knowledge the Onda doesn't support GPS. Here's one review that claims the same. Maybe there's still some use for location services if you switch High-accuracy positioning to use also online services?

BTW: When booting the tablet do you have the black screen and circle? I remember getting rid of it on some 2.0.5.6 reinstall but now it seems to be back for me on SFOS 3.

As such, not a big issue... and I don't think removing ofono is the right choice, either :)

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Last time (#150) I faced this problem, this is what I did:

This time I did not encounter this situation, even though I installed from scratch using the automatic installer and just kept upgrading according to TheKit's instructions after that. Alas, my Onda is still pining for the missing package droid-systemd-tbj.

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

What a can of worms... :)

While trying to get rid of the blank screen I decided to reinstall the tablet from the scratch. Previously, I had skipped removing old modified packages as the instructions mention "...removing old -onda-v820w-v3 packages is not needed...". Now I did remove them.

All went well and the blank screen was gone after the 2.2.0.29 upgrade, also after the upgrade to 3.0.0.8. Then I wanted to speed up and upgraded straight to 3.0.3.9. While rebooting the tablet it didn't go past the ANDROID text... bummer.

Second try from the scratch, same result.

Third try from the scratch and but this time upgrading 3.0.0.8. -> 3.0.2.8. Same result yet again, sheesh!

At this point, I decided not to mind the blank screen and started yet another reinstall without removing the old packages hoping to finally upgrade to 3.0.3.9. This time the tablet booted all the way through after the upgrade to 3.0.2.8 but for some reason it claimed to be already on 3.0.3.9! On top of this, I had some trouble installing the missing keyboard layouts etc. but succeeded finally. I re-ran the 3.0.3.9 upgrade once more and guess what, the tablet didn't boot anymore!

Fifth time's the charm, so I started from the scratch once more. Now I installed the missing layouts + sideloading after the 2.2.0.29 upgrade before upgrading to 3.0.0.8 and everything went smoothly. Then I upgraded 3.0.0.8 -> 3.0.3.9 and finally I have an up to date working tablet again and yes, with the blank screen & circle on boot!

Well, at least I'm quite familiar with the process now and can at least get the WLAN to connect pretty quickly (the trick was to keep it off initially and only turn it on when adding a new account... that way it connects 80-90% of the time on first try)

I'm not hoping to reinstall the Onda anytime soon!

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Phew, what a can of worms indeed!!! It really makes you wonder why the outcomes are so extremely different each time one installs or upgrades. Presumably it boils down to some repos failing (in different ways). Either access is blocked ("adaptation0: Store credentials not received.") or the list of available files is incomplete ("...requires droid-compat-v820w-droid-system, but this requirement cannot be provided" -> yet, zypper in droid-compat-v820w-droid-system worked like a charm a few minutes later and all the sensors returned). And there is still that issue of the missing package droid-systemd-tbj (I keep mentioning this hoping someone might actually have an idea where to find it). So, it all boils down to infrastructure problems, doesn't it?

About your try #5: Actually, I didn't do any of this - like no missing layouts or sideloading. Only after having reached 3.0.3.9 I took care of these things. Does this mean you actually got the missing package installed and Bluetooth is working?

At the same time, I cannot help but wonder how time consuming and tedious all the porting must be for TheKit. I am so grateful he's doing that for us! :-)

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Now that you wrote it in large red, I see the the extra "d" at the end. That's my typo, sorry for this, can be safely ignored until fixed one is on OBS.

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

I also wondered about this. The downloading process does a few retries (1 of 9, 2 of 9...) and sometimes the problems resolve, sometimes they do not. Also the wifi connection isn't necessarily the most stable one (at least on SFOS 2 where I had a couple of frustrating dropouts). I think I encountered less problems with "store credentials" etc. when the Sailfish OS check for updates was set to Manual instead of Automatic but maybe that's just a coincidence.

One factor might also be my V5 tablet itself but I've understood the V3 has its quirks, too.

I recall the "mystery" package to be named droid-system-tbj (not ...systemd...) but no importance since it cannot be found nonetheless.

EDIT: Ah...
I was slow :)

Sorry, BT isn't working.
When I originally managed to upgrade the tablet from 2.0.5.6 I only fixed the layouts on 3.0.3.8 (without a hitch). However now for some reason on try #4 I had to downgrade maybe 3-4 packages and install a couple of others and I lost track what was really happening so no wonder the tablet failed to boot afterwards... (sure, there was also the OS version inconsistency). On try #5 I decided to install the missing packages right after they'd gone missing which seemed like the right choice.

Absolutely! I would've understood perfectly if he'd just call it quits on SFOS3 & Onda but instead it looks like he managed to provide an easily upgradable solution *knocks on wood*.

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Erm, well, I did feel a little silly when I did it, but I am delighted to see it actually worked. ;)

Great, so I can just relax about that. Thanks so much for all your help!!! :)

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

So, you say that we can just have Bluetooth working again any time soon? :)

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Just a quick one. My Onda notified me about the official 3.0.3.10 upgrade being available. Has anyone tried this? Is it safe?

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

1MB trivial upgrade that probably did hardly more than updated the OS version :)

Things might be different with Alien Dalvik installed, though.

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Thanks for your quick response. In fact, I don't need to worry about Alien Dalvik as I don't have it installed (if I wanted Android apps, I figure I could just run Android, which I really don't like - if that even makes sense ;) ).

So, I gather everybody but me has already upgraded their Ondas to 3.0.3.10 and has been sailfishing happily ever since?

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

At the end, someone has tried the 3.0.3.10 update? Is it safe to aply or it just brokes everything in our beloved Onda V820W? :)

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

I haven't... Yes, I know I'm a chicken... :)

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Just a quick heads up:

Yes, Onda can be upgraded to 3.1.0.11 (Seitseminen).
GUI may or may not work, I used the Terminal.

No, BT isn't working.

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Do you have test it? Is it safe to update to 3.1.0.11 via terminal?

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

I don't really know what people mean regarding a "safe" upgrade. What I can tell is:
- How did you upgrade? Using terminal
- Does the GUI upgrade work? I don't know (I have tried it on some previous upgrade without trouble, though)
- Did the upgrade complete with no errors? Yes
- After reboot does the system SEEM to be working as it did before? Yes
- Have you noticed anything 'weird'? Possibly some faster power drain (but even if true it isn't most likely device specific).

As I understood TheKit's previous post there shouldn't really be need to wonder on every possible SFOS3 upgrade will it work on Onda. Then again, I might be wrong.

Also, even if I was correct now the situation may well change in the future, so don't take my word for any guarantee.

Yes, that's what I did.
The tablet was charging and I enabled the display option to prevent display from blanking while charging the battery like I usually do with Onda upgrades.

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Thanks for the answer! I'm going to try! :D

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Well I just have upgraded my Onda V820W to SailfishOS 3.1.0.11 and everything went like a charm! Great!!

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

After updating Onda V820W V3 to SailfishOs 3.1.0.11 there is only an issue: There is no sound system wide, but you can fix it by forcing installing droid-compact-v820w-droid-system by:

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Good to know, thanks! I have V5 so there is no sound either way... (or at least until SFOS uses a newer kernel that supports sound on V5).

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

It will occur anytime soon on the Onda port? I doubt it... :/

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

I don't think it has nothing to do with Onda specifically. I mean SFOS cannot stay on 3.10 Kernel forever..? Whatever the case, I dont't need the audio for anything necessarily so if nothing happens, I don't mind.

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Hi there i did the instructions.
But i got a grub error that rus. language is not available any hints;)

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

#32
You need to comment it out.

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Okay i did that script fails :
no bzip image found..
Sorry for the short info

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Make sure the USB stick is labelled "USB".

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

usb stick how can i boot ? Key kombination?
With micro SD card inserted. i plugged a usb keyboard in the micro usb port.
i formatted microsd card to Fat32 with one partition.
i unzipped the file:
so i got :



;) it is right ?

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

I have no idea if the tablet can be booted from the microSD or not. Using a FAT32 formatted USB stick the label should be USB. Just unzip the files to the root same as you did with the microSD already (or copy them from the microSD, should make no difference).

You also need a (powered) USB hub and USB keyboard&mouse.
Just press ESC while booting, select Boot Manager (here you need the mouse) and finally select the USB stick (with the keyboard, if I recall correctly).

Skim/read through this Onda thread, all the information you need should be mentioned along the way.

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

So special thanks it is working.
Anybody knows to get a spare battery for this tablet ?

btw: i test to upgrade to 2.2.0.29 it failed. :o
i will read the thread for a solution.;)

edit:

https://github.com/tmikkonen/sailfish-onda-v820w

works great ...

other issue on filemanager only 10 gb will shown i got an 32 GB tablet any solution ? :p

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

I don't know if it's the easiest but create a bootable Linux USB stick (Ubuntu, Linux Mint etc.), boot the tablet from it, start GParted and resize the tablet's partition... you'll need the USB hub + keyboard & mouse again.

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

@:tmi need a 32 bis efi ? or 64 bit

so download a 64 bit linux mint iso ?
an copy to usbstick ?

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

This might help.
EDIT: or this.

You probably need to use dd or UNetbootin or similar to create a bootable USB from the ISO image. (I think there was even some USB creator program included if you boot the Linux Mint "LiveCD" on a PC)

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

So finally .. i managed it... :D:D

I downloaded following iso https://sourceforge.net/projects/gparted/

With AcetoneISO downloaded from Softwareshop under Linux Mint 18.3 on MacMini i decompressed the iso to the usb stick.

The i take my USB Hub and bootet from the Stick.
I used default settings.

After a while the Debian Desktop was shown.
So i expanded the Sailfish Partition to the maximum.
Now i had 24,7 GB free. :D

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Which options have you used? Because I can't up the graphical session :/

Re: Sailfish OS on ONDA V820W V3 and other Intel SoC-based tablets
 

Ok. To make the proper Gparted USB live bootable on Onda V820W is much better to follow the manual method to get the GUI up properly: https://gparted.org/liveusb.php#linux-method-b