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-   -   Jolla User Experience Thread (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91875)

shmerl 2013-11-29 18:43
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Playstore is surely useful for those who rely on Android heavily. I still didn't get, why Jolla couldn't at least ask Google about making it officially. Is there some internal tension inherited from Nokia days? Or Google is too strict with requirements for official deployment?

kollin 2013-11-29 18:54
""Google play " for jolla!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1390798)
*cross-post*
From here: http://jollafin.blogspot.fi/2013/11/...for-jolla.html


Quote:
Play Store for Jolla
You need: Time, Jolla and Computer
WARNING: You do this youself. I dont give guarantee, but it works on me.
TAKE BACKUP FROM /opt/alien/system
  1. Enable Jolla Developer Mode and allow SSH-connection.
  2. Download http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-jb-20121011-signed.zip and extract it.
  3. Plug your Jolla with USB to computer in normal mode.
  4. Copy system-folder from your extract files to Jolla.
  5. Open SSH-connection to your phone and login.
  6. Write "devel-su" and press enter. After that, write your password.
  7. Write command: rsync -av --ignore-existing /home/nemo/system /opt/alien
  8. Reboot phone
  9. Install Google Play services to Jolla
  10. Install Google Play Store to Jolla
  11. Start Play Store and do updates
.
;)

thedead1440 2013-11-29 18:59
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1390800)
Playstore is surely useful for those who rely on Android heavily. I still didn't get, why Jolla couldn't at least ask Google about making it officially. Is there some internal tension inherited from Nokia days?
If you have been reading around, Google are using Play as their way of closing things up so if you want Play and related services you would need to be a signatory of Open Handset Alliance which would prohibit Jolla from using any OS other than Google's Android...

rob_kouw 2013-11-29 19:01
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Originally Posted by qwazix (Post 1390791)
Regarding email push, N9 had perfectly good push email functionality. (In fact it was the only part of fenix I liked) My gmail messages appeared faster on the N9 than the GMail web interface.
Right so. I have no trouble with mail on my N9, reading 2 Exchange accounts, 1 GMail, 2 IMAP. OK, there is no copy/paste from e-mails received. Hope Jolla solved that and copied the approach on Accounts, which enables me to switch off mail sync for some accounts while in holiday.

(Lumiaman, what are you looking for? You don't seem to find much happiness here. Must be terrible to be drawn in here time and time again.)

att 2013-11-29 19:01
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1390800)
Playstore is surely useful for those who rely on Android heavily. I still didn't get, why Jolla couldn't at least ask Google about making it officially. Is there some internal tension inherited from Nokia days?
It might have been a strategic decision. They want to offer an option for the operators to implement their own stores (both sailfish and android), and they might have wanted to encourage third parties to do native sailfish applications.

tissot 2013-11-29 19:02
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1390800)
Playstore is surely useful for those who rely on Android heavily. I still didn't get, why Jolla couldn't at least ask Google about making it officially. Is there some internal tension inherited from Nokia days?
Well yeah maybe at least asking them would have not hurt, but Google wants it all. There was example talk about when Nokia joined WP, that one of the reasons they did not join Android was that Nokia could not make Nokia Maps default on their phones. Or think about Kindle and how that isn't licensed by Google.

What do you think Google would think about Jolla's own OS and it not using Google maps?
Personally I don't need or want any Google services to my Jolla, so I'm fine.

jalyst 2013-11-29 19:03
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kollin (Post 1390803)
I already linked to that post in my last post, but I focused on the comments.
One can just scroll up from the comments to see what you've posted...

Quote:
Originally Posted by thedead1440 (Post 1390804)
If you have been reading around, Google are using Play as their way of closing things up so if you want Play and related services you would need to be a signatory of Open Handset Alliance which would prohibit Jolla from using any OS other than Google's Android...
Yeah that's well known, but in one of his recent interviews Stefano(?) intimated that they didn't even "try" to have discussions with them.
They just ruled-it-out automatically, that seems wildly irresponsible to me...

qwazix 2013-11-29 19:06
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Thank god they didn't. Look what happened to acer. If I wanted google controlling my phone I'd buy android (where I incidentally have more choice and better specs).

Thoke 2013-11-29 19:07
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
No company is going to help their competitor to succeed.

mikecomputing 2013-11-29 19:07
Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Anyone tested BT headset?


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