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vi_	2011-11-28 14:40

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

Quote:

Originally Posted by panjgoori (Post 1130047)

i have a question isnt kernel power49 consumes more battery than power48 ? i think power48 was more power efficient.

LOL.

Are you for real or are you troll baitin'?

fahadj2003

2011-11-28 15:07

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

Quote:

Originally Posted by vi_ (Post 1130058)

LOL.

Are you for real or are you troll baitin'?

he's indian..; dont blame him..

don_falcone

2011-11-28 15:24

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

Quote:

Originally Posted by fahadj2003 (Post 1130080)

he's indian..; dont blame him..

You are too, and we blame you.

panjgoori

2011-11-28 15:32

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

Quote:

Originally Posted by fahadj2003 (Post 1130080)

he's indian..; dont blame him..

it was just a ordinary question. if you dont have answers for it then don't comment nor quote them.

raverpol

2011-11-28 16:00

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

Quote:

Originally Posted by reinob (Post 1130040)

Have you tried looking at the output of "top" while this issue is happening?

The only similar experience I've had was with intellisyncd (Nokia Messaging) going crazy after a disconnection (nothing to do with CSSU or kernel, obviously). My solution was to kill it on ifdown.

I will try but I dont use Nokia Messaging

monkeyman

2011-11-28 16:18

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

I upgraded to 49 and no text messages now. Keep getting Yellow Bar across the screen with message:
"Unable to receive or send new messages.
Device storage full.
Remove data to free memory."

The screen will not turn off (standby) with that message on screen and the text message I tried to send is not in the "Conversations" app so I cannot stop this without a reboot of my N900. If I clear that message it returns moments later and turns the screen back on.

I am certainly not out of storage
Nokia N900 = 2.45GB available
Memory Card = 29.71GB available
Memory for installable applications = 1.13GB available.
__________________________________________________ ___
EDIT: KP update which came through Dec 09, 2011 eliminated this problem.

Estel

2011-11-28 17:05

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

@freemangordon
Bingo! Confirmed, that installation of busybox-power cause "mysterious" ancient_legendary_epic_f****n "shutdown instead of reboot" bug (courtesy of don_falcone, he did tests). to be more precise, combination of kp + cssu + busybox-power does. No testes were made without CSSU or KP, but KP + CSSU alone doesn't cause this issue.

I'm sure, that iDont will fix it ASAP - still, any info about possible "why it happen" may be helpful, so feel free to posts Your finding here:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=72801

/Estel

fahadj2003

2011-11-28 17:25

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

Quote:

Originally Posted by don_falcone (Post 1130096)

You are too, and we blame you.

im a mallu but thats not my point..

mr_pingu

2011-11-28 20:28

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1130166)

Then I have some funny message for you
KP49 + CSSU_T + Busybox-power+ sudo reboot = just rebooting normal

edit: Almost normal then: when hildon-home was loaded got a message: Warning: A unexpected reboot occured. Your custom kernel settings were NOT loaded.

robin92

2011-11-28 21:04

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

Sorry if someone has write this before...
But how should I overclock with Kp 49?
With same profile as I had with 48 it doent look correct. It only set max mhz to 720 before it was 1000mhz

don_falcone

2011-11-28 21:25

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1130166)

This time you were way too quick. I wrote that while still running on original busybox 3:1.10.2.legal-1osso30+0m5 the device doesn't reboot.

stooobs

2011-11-29 01:09

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

ive had the reboot problem on and off for about a year with and without bbp, kernel power, cssu thou i belive it was around the cssu time that i stopped trying it because it allways just turned off or kinda rebooted to the multiboot screen or nokia screen depending on keybord open this isnt a new bug to me

StocChr

2011-11-29 07:35

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

hi guys,

after update to kp49 my battery consumption gone wild...
the cpu usage seems to be very good...

http://www.id-t.at/data/kp49.png

any help, tips or hints? ( maybe the battery lifetime reached? )

btw. powertop seems to be good:

C0: 0,5%
C1: 0,0%
C2: 3,0%
C3: 5,5%
C4: 91,0%

jpala16

2011-11-29 10:53

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

Quote:

Originally Posted by StocChr (Post 1130426)

Can't help you man. I recently upgraded form KP48 to KP49, deinstalled speedpatch and batterypatch prior to upgrading, and my conclussion is that it handles very well battery consumption.
It's quite close to what I used to get with batterypatch (which brought me better battery life at that moment).

It's not a general issue, so try to find what's different on your device.

majaczek

2011-11-29 10:56

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

hey, nice that my info about busybox-power is somewhat helpful
my problem about having kernel-power48 and kernel-power49 is kind of resolved by myself - it looks there's no modules dir for KP48 - so almost no cleaning needed

keep the work awesome

PS: there was an offtop about advancement of my knowledge and abilities. So I'm rather advanced on computers (know all basic usage, some advancement usage and some of programming), but I'm quite new to unix type operating systems (such as linux and BSD), so I have most basic abilities, and some of medium/advancement that was either similair to my previous knowledge or was just handy that it would be sorry to not acknowledged and used

ade	2011-11-29 11:34

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

Quote:

Originally Posted by StocChr (Post 1130426)

hi guys,

after update to kp49 my battery consumption gone wild...
the cpu usage seems to be very good...

any help, tips or hints? ( maybe the battery lifetime reached? )

btw. powertop seems to be good:

C0: 0,5%
C1: 0,0%
C2: 3,0%
C3: 5,5%
C4: 91,0%

I assume you tried a reboot? I ones had the issue that the battery was almost empty overnight, without significant CPU usage. After a reboot it didn't return.

freemangordon

2011-11-29 11:46

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

Quote:

Originally Posted by ade (Post 1130516)

I assume you tried a reboot? I ones had the issue that the battery was almost empty overnight, without significant CPU usage. After a reboot it didn't return.

Or even better power-cycle (with battery removal)

StocChr

2011-11-29 11:51

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

i give it a try... reboot with battery removal
let you tomorrow know what happend

Tousif zeba

2011-11-29 14:16

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

I have got a problem installing kp49.......
I am currently having kp48 and kp48 boot image but when updating to kp49 it says can't update conflcting with application package kp48 boot image

and when i try to update kp49 bootimage it says can't update as kp49 breaks third party software policy.......

plz help:(

Estel

2011-11-29 16:57

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

Quote:

Originally Posted by don_falcone (Post 1130282)

This time you were way too quick. I wrote that while still running on original busybox 3:1.10.2.legal-1osso30+0m5 the device doesn't reboot.

Oh, goddamnit. Communication fail - I was sure that Your post on busybox-power thread mean busybox-power. Well...

mr_pingu

2011-11-29 17:05

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

@estel: did you see my post too? I have KP, CSSU_T and busybox-power and reboot works. Except I got a bootup poput of: unexpected reboot, your kernel config is NOT Loaded. Default is used instead

Estel

2011-11-29 17:31

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

to be honest, I saw Your post, just haven't commented, cause I have no idea what may be causing this, or if it is in any way related to bug we're discussing.

Common sense tells me, that Your reboot may fail in earlier part (before it's "finished" properly, so device act as it's unexpected), but it's pure assumption.

panjgoori

2011-11-29 17:31

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

my default kernel is not loading anymore after installing kernel power and multiboot. whenever i press 0 to load default maemo kernel but it gives guru mediation error. does anyone knows why its happening ?

mr_pingu

2011-11-29 19:14

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1130627)

Yes exactly what I thought, but don't think it's strange that my device does reboot while most of the other have issues and the device just shuts down...

This bug is really legendary :mad:

Zoxir

2011-11-29 19:56

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tousif zeba (Post 1130565)

I had the same problem
apt-get upgrade in console solves it :)

StocChr

2011-11-30 07:04

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

hi,
i have tested my device after a power-cycle (with battery removal).
the results are more than depressing. i can't say that kp49 is 100% responsible for this.
so if it's so, sorry for off topic, but maybe someone can help me to get a working device back.

i have charged my device till 19:00, the battery lasts till 04:00
9 hours in offline mode with obviously no cpu usage and no usage

what the hell is going on with me device?

http://www.id-t.at/data/kp49-2.png

i performed powertop befor testing, the output seems more than nice:

Code:

Nokia-N900:~# powertop

Powertop 1.13.3

status: Unknown job: pmtrackerdaemon

Sleeping for 11 seconds before sampling

Collecting data for 30 seconds

Sample interval was 00m 30s 6226us



C#      | Ratio  | Avg/dura | Frequency | Ratio

--------+--------+----------+-----------+--------+

     C0 |   0.4% |          |  1150 MHz |   nan% |

     C1 |   0.1% |    0.4ms | 

     C2 |   3.0% |    5.6ms | 

     C3 |   6.3% |   72.1ms | 

     C4 |  90.2% | 1690.7ms | 



IRQ#    | Activity   | Type           | Name

--------+------------+----------------+---------------------------

     12 |        398 |           INTC | DMA

     56 |        152 |           INTC | i2c_omap

     37 |         90 |           INTC | gp

     57 |         50 |           INTC | i2c_omap

     86 |         17 |           INTC | mmc1

    202 |         17 |           GPIO | wl1251

     11 |         10 |           INTC | prcm

     21 |          9 |           INTC | SGX



PID#    | Activity   | Name           | Function Entry (Expire)

--------+------------+----------------+---------------------------

      0 |         30 |  <kernel core> | hrtimer_start (tick_sched_timer)

      0 |         27 |  <kernel core> | tick_nohz_restart_sched_tick (tick_sched_timer)

    744 |         22 |         wl12xx | schedule_timeout (process_timeout)

   2098 |         19 |     osso-xterm | schedule_hrtimeout_range (hrtimer_wakeup)

      1 |         15D|        preinit | cpufreq_governor_dbs (delayed_work_timer_fn)

    744 |         10 |         wl12xx | queue_delayed_work (delayed_work_timer_fn)

    869 |          9 |      bme_RX-51 | sys_timer_settime (posix_timer_fn)

     45 |          3 |          mmcqd | queue_delayed_work (delayed_work_timer_fn)

   1186 |          3 |           Xorg | queue_delayed_work (delayed_work_timer_fn)

    744 |          3 |         wl12xx | schedule_timeout (process_timeout)

   1511 |          3 |       wlancond | ieee80211_ioctl_siwpower (ieee80211_dynamic_ps_timer)

    869 |          3 |      bme_RX-51 | schedule_timeout (process_timeout)

    826 |          3 |           dsme | do_nanosleep (hrtimer_wakeup)

    826 |          3 |           dsme | __enqueue_rt_entity (sched_rt_period_timer)

      1 |          3D|  <kernel core> | queue_delayed_work (delayed_work_timer_fn)

   1139 |          2 |       sgx_perf | queue_delayed_work (delayed_work_timer_fn)

    869 |          2 |      bme_RX-51 | do_nanosleep (hrtimer_wakeup)

    853 |          2D|<kernel module> | queue_delayed_work (delayed_work_timer_fn)

     14 |          1 |        pdflush | journal_get_write_access (commit_timeout)

      1 |          1 |  <kernel core> | inet_initpeers (peer_check_expire)

   2113 |          1 |       powertop | do_nanosleep (hrtimer_wakeup)



Power domain activity breakdown

Domain  | % of time spent in states

--------+---------+---------+---------+---------+----------

usbhost |OFF: 100%|RET:   0%|INA:   0%| ON:   0%| now:(OFF)

    sgx |OFF:  97%|RET:   0%|INA:   0%| ON:   2%| now:(OFF)

    per |OFF:   0%|RET:   0%|INA:   0%| ON: 100%| now:(ON)

    dss |OFF: 100%|RET:   0%|INA:   0%| ON:   0%| now:(OFF)

    cam |OFF: 100%|RET:   0%|INA:   0%| ON:   0%| now:(OFF)

   core |OFF:   0%|RET:   0%|INA:   0%| ON: 100%| now:(ON)

   neon |OFF:  90%|RET:   6%|INA:   2%| ON:   0%| now:(ON)

    mpu |OFF:  90%|RET:   6%|INA:   2%| ON:   0%| now:(ON)

   iva2 |OFF:   0%|RET:   0%|INA:   0%| ON: 100%| now:(ON)



Clock activity breakdown at end of period

Domain  | Active clocks

--------+---------------+---------------+------------------

   iva2 |         IVA2

   core |          SDRC | HSOTGUSB_IDLE |      OMAPCTRL 

        |     MAILBOXES |

   wkup |          GPT1 |       32KSYNC |         GPIO1 

        |          WDT1 |           SR1 |           SR2 

        |

  ckgen |          CORE |          PERI |           96M 

        |           48M |           12M |           54M 

        |      EMU_CORE |

    per |         GPIO2 |         GPIO3 |         GPIO4 

        |         GPIO5 |         GPIO6 |



Total wakeups   908,  30.3/s | IRQ  743,  24.8/s | Timers  165,   5.5/s

HW wakeups       10,   0.3/s |     Real gp_timers expired   90,   3.0/s

Straycat

2011-11-30 16:28

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

Quote:

Originally Posted by StocChr (Post 1130887)

Well, for me the KP49 is the best version at the moment on battery life.

And I've played all versions until this.

I can get 2/5 days of barely use, wifi and 3G powered off most of the time. For example, I recharged the device late night on monday and I'm on 23% of battery charge remaining.

In my case was KP48 the battery beast. So far that I had to go back to KP47 and upgraded from it to KP49 where I am so happy.

freemangordon

2011-11-30 16:58

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sourav.dubey (Post 1131186)

When karam is going to update battery patch
my battery sucks after installing kpv49

I am not sure if I will scream or cry if this sh|t is mentioned once more in this thread.

corduroysack

2011-11-30 17:06

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

kp49 is great and so is my battery life using dsp profile :)

don_falcone

2011-11-30 17:21

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sourav.dubey (Post 1131186)

When karam is going to update battery patch
my battery sucks after installing kpv49

Please refrain from posting battery/speedpatch related crap in this thread. This is about kernel-power and nothing else. If your standby time etc. sucks, complain either to karam or trisha02, not here. Comprende?

x61	2011-12-01 04:32

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

Quote:

Originally Posted by knobby (Post 1127178)

firsly u must install kernel power 49..there's a conflict b'coz u r tying to install bootimage of kp49 but kp49 is not installed instead u have kp48

And why does it show an available update when it knows the program is not yet installed?

Joseph9560

2011-12-01 16:19

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

There is 19+MB folder in /usr/src/ Is it required or not (because folder name is src). Don't want to delete it without confirmation.

Laughingstok

2011-12-01 16:34

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

Running kp49 without issue. Don't forget to do your apt-get upgrade folks.

Estel

2011-12-01 17:06

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

Don't forget to *not* use apt-get upgrade, as far as You want to keep any custom-installed packages (i.e. 720p video recording/playback from freemangordon). Just update manually, what is needed to be updated.

/Estel

Megaltariak

2011-12-01 17:52

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

You can also use the dpkg --set-selections for holding packages, e.g: (as root)
dpkg --set-selections << EOF
camera-ui hold
libgdigicam-gst-camerabin0 hold
libgdigicam0 hold
EOF

StocChr

2011-12-01 20:44

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

hi guys,

some people have big troubles with kernel-power-settings

with kp-settings three processes stay always ON ( per, core, iva2 )
so the battery drains very fast ( 8 hours from 100%-0% )

You will notice while the results are not that significantly different, there is a shitload more DMA activity and IRQing going on when kp-settings is installed. While the CPU is not hammering some hardware on the N900 is. Notice the extra 100% ONs in the power domain table for with kp-settings.

There is an ancient bug in kp-settings. I had issues with kp-settings since version 26. I never figured out why it caused all these wake ups I just know in some circumstances it does.

have someone an idea what can be wrong with the kernel-power-settings? i would really like to use kp-settings, maybe someone can fix it?

with kp-settings:

Code:

C#      | Ratio  | Avg/dura | Frequency | Ratio

--------+--------+----------+-----------+--------+

     C0 |   0.2% |          |  1150 MHz |   nan% |

     C1 |   0.0% |    0.3ms | 

     C2 |   3.3% |    9.4ms | 

     C3 |   4.2% |  104.3ms | 

     C4 |  92.3% | 1730.5ms |

Code:

Power domain activity breakdown

Domain  | % of time spent in states

--------+---------+---------+---------+---------+----------

usbhost |OFF: 100%|RET:   0%|INA:   0%| ON:   0%| now:(OFF)

    sgx |OFF: 100%|RET:   0%|INA:   0%| ON:   0%| now:(OFF)

    per |OFF:   0%|RET:   0%|INA:   0%| ON: 100%| now:(ON)

    dss |OFF: 100%|RET:   0%|INA:   0%| ON:   0%| now:(OFF)

    cam |OFF: 100%|RET:   0%|INA:   0%| ON:   0%| now:(OFF)

   core |OFF:   0%|RET:   0%|INA:   0%| ON: 100%| now:(ON)

   neon |OFF:  92%|RET:   4%|INA:   3%| ON:   0%| now:(ON)

    mpu |OFF:  92%|RET:   4%|INA:   3%| ON:   0%| now:(ON)

   iva2 |OFF:   0%|RET:   0%|INA:   0%| ON: 100%| now:(ON)

without kp-settings:

Code:

C#      | Ratio  | Avg/dura | Frequency | Ratio

--------+--------+----------+-----------+--------+

     C0 |   0.2% |          |  1150 MHz |   nan% |

     C1 |   0.0% |    0.2ms | 

     C2 |   0.2% |    2.4ms | 

     C3 |   2.9% |  215.9ms | 

     C4 |  96.7% | 2903.8ms |

Code:

Power domain activity breakdown

Domain  | % of time spent in states

--------+---------+---------+---------+---------+----------

usbhost |OFF: 100%|RET:   0%|INA:   0%| ON:   0%| now:(OFF)

    sgx |OFF: 100%|RET:   0%|INA:   0%| ON:   0%| now:(OFF)

    per |OFF:  96%|RET:   3%|INA:   0%| ON:   0%| now:(ON)

    dss |OFF: 100%|RET:   0%|INA:   0%| ON:   0%| now:(OFF)

    cam |OFF: 100%|RET:   0%|INA:   0%| ON:   0%| now:(OFF)

   core |OFF:  90%|RET:   5%|INA:   0%| ON:   3%| now:(ON)

   neon |OFF:  91%|RET:   6%|INA:   1%| ON:   0%| now:(ON)

    mpu |OFF:  91%|RET:   6%|INA:   1%| ON:   0%| now:(ON)

   iva2 |OFF: 100%|RET:   0%|INA:   0%| ON:   0%| now:(OFF)

Estel

2011-12-01 21:56

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

Quote:

Originally Posted by StocChr (Post 1131781)

You will notice while the results are not that significantly different, there is a shitload more DMA activity and IRQing going on when kp-settings is installed. While the CPU is not hammering some hardware on the N900 is. Notice the extra 100% ONs in the power domain table for with kp-settings.

There is an ancient bug in kp-settings. I had issues with kp-settings since version 26. I never figured out why it caused all these wake ups I just know in some circumstances it does.

Maybe not 100 percent related, but those aren't Your words - You just copied and pasted parts of vi_ posts from other thread. While it does not invalidate report itself, I think it's better (and more fair), to mark quotations with proper credits, especially, that You're mixing it with Your own findings and requests in-between. And it make people think really *You* got issues dating from kp-settings 26 (in fact, it seems that You haven't had N900 then), which may result in directing questions to You, that should end up in vi_'s "box". Not to mention using language and terms quite out of line for Your actual knowledge/understanding of what is going on here. No offense in this last sentence, just preserving "quality and assurance" of discussion here.

/Estel

vi_	2011-12-01 22:35

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

LoLing
________________

StocChr

2011-12-02 07:05

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

muhahah, estel, you are the man!! :rolleyes:

it's correct, that all the credits from my posting #2397 in this thread are going to vi_, we have discussed the issue in an other thread within 40! replies
why reinvent the wheel? i hope and i think so, that vi_ is not angry about my procceding!

without vi_ i had not come to the idea, that kp-settings fu*k my battery up!
it's fact that kp-settings cause massive problems, and the question is why?

screenshot with kp-settings from my n900:

http://www.id-t.at/data/kp49.png

screenshot without kp-settings from my n900:

http://www.id-t.at/data/okp49.png

xes	2011-12-02 08:58

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v49 in Extras-Devel

After a few days of tests and reboots i think i have found something....

There are many posts of people using kp49 without any battery issue...

In the meanwhile, there are many others asking why kp49 drains the battery a lot faster if compared to kp48...

Observing my N900 i have found both of the situations, BUT.... WHEN?

When the battery drains fast, the cpu is always at full clock or remains locked on an high clock profile never changing from that value also if the is apparently there is no load.
Very often, also rebooting, the situation does not change.

In other situations, same phone, same profile (usually i use the "default" one) there is almost no drain and the batteryeye draws a orizontal line.

So what changes?

Look at dmesg... if you can find a
"DSPTrace DSP MMU FAULT "
the battery drain will be like a waterfall!!!!

Many times, also during the boot process you can find that error.
If you start with that, you can be sure, say bye bye to your battery....

If you start the phone without errors, and the battery drain is ok, if while playing media file or running something a DSP FAULT message appears on dmesg, from that moment the cpu will remain locked at an high clock and the battery drain will go to the stars!

Any suggestion or confirm to my teory is welcome!

Thanks to all for this great comunity work and forum!

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