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shmerl 2013-07-14 19:05

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
In theory yes, but it requires some add-ons for that (XWayland), and it sounds like Jolla aren't planning to provide them.

jalyst 2013-07-14 19:11

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
https://twitter.com/JollaHQ/status/356349925543526401

don_falcone 2013-07-14 19:20

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
Can someone point them to that it would be helpful to collect all those spread-over-half-the-interwebs tidbits into a Q&A/FAQ at their website? :rolleyes:

shmerl 2013-07-14 19:34

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
Sure, they should really publish this kind of stuff on their main Wiki.

marbleuser 2013-07-15 00:49

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
does this mean we won't be able to run easy debian apps as if they were native apps like we can currently do on the n900? will we have to run some seperate VNC environment like android?

shmerl 2013-07-15 01:05

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
Many Debian applications should support Wayland as well, so why not. But they'll catch up later I think. Right now Wayland didn't get traction on the desktop, because vendors like Nvidia didn't release needed drives and big DEs like KDE are still in the process of enabling Wayland support.

marbleuser 2013-07-15 01:40

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
what a crock. they're basically relying on android apps then. existing qt4/x11 apps won't work.

soryuuha 2013-07-15 02:25

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1358946)

for technical peeps, yet to see how yet..

marbleuser 2013-07-15 02:51

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by don_falcone (Post 1358794)
...i wonder what impact for application compatibility it has, and therefore on leveraging abilities for filling application catalogs from existing codebases.

it kills it stone dead.

marbleuser 2013-07-15 03:00

Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by don_falcone (Post 1358948)
Can someone point them to that it would be helpful to collect all those spread-over-half-the-interwebs tidbits into a Q&A/FAQ at their website? :rolleyes:

that's what i thought until i saw that they're using qt5/wayland and dropping support for qt4/x11 apps. and suddenly i didn't care anymore. i'll wait for about a year after it's launch before i seriously look at it now, rather than collecting tweets about how they've u-turned on stuff they promised. bait and switch. no thanks.


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