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epninety 2019-10-03 20:52

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deutch1976 (Post 1560837)
If we hand over an n900 to you will you stop crying?

If I really thought he wanted an N900, I would seriously consider taking my mint, boxed spare N900 and making a video of me inserting it in a blender, just for him :D

TheKit 2019-10-03 21:06

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epninety (Post 1560838)
If I really thought he wanted an N900, I would seriously consider taking my mint, boxed spare N900 and making a video of me inserting it in a blender, just for him :D

How can you be this cruel to innocent N900!

Kabouik 2019-10-03 21:22

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
I feel sorry that all this ends up being the most visible side of our community to F(x)tec and Chen. Chen was here long before his project because he likes the phones we like too, and eventually decided to invest money and sweat to build a device no one else built after Nokia, 90% tailored to our niche preferences, despite all risks implied.

And this is how TMO finally thanks him. Pages and pages and pages about the bashing, critics, and attention given to someone who decided to attack him and his company on every point he can, even imaginary ones, while never acknowledging when proven wrong. Most of us disagree with that capricious guy, but the visible part still is this massive fuss, and it hurts both F(x)tec and the Pro1. And surely the people behind.

Let's just stop feeding an hungry troll and post here again when we have something in our mailboxes and a much better reason to thank Chen and his team.

VaZso 2019-10-03 21:27

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shaihkritzer (Post 1560836)
if someone promises to ship a device which is obviously not certified in time, but they still promising, that sounds more like a lie, and less like company is waiting for a miracle.

They have not promised an exact date but an approximate one...

We don't know too much about certifications, but FCC is only related to the USA, it is not much to do with other parts of the globe. Other certifications may (or may not) exists like IC / CE.

I think they found USA in a relatively late state of development as a potential main user base and maybe some telecom companies needed that certification in order to appear the device in their market or even to permit them to connect to their network.

Also, certification is usually absolutely not a one day program.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaihkritzer (Post 1560836)
if someones takes money for an item, but brings no item in return while keeping the money, that looks more like a scam and less like a lack of management / a series of unfortunate circumstances.

They stated to refund the money anytime if somebody would like to cancel the order.
So if you have pre-ordered one, let's try if it really happens.
...but until you not proof they would keep your (or other's) money, you should not claim they will keep the money.

Also Keyboard Mod refunds are happened on user requests.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaihkritzer (Post 1560836)
also keep in mind I'm not much comfotably waiting since my N900 is dead and there's not much sense in buying another new phone for the meantime, so I'm hanging out with the N93i which still pretty stylish but it's just a dialer...

Practically, my own N900 has also died (however, I have a somewhat repaired unit), but its hardware is rather old which makes it hardly usable nowadays.

Currently, I use a Moto G6 till my Pro1 may arrive.

Boxeri 2019-10-04 07:02

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Wow, didn't visit this tread for week or so. Things really escalated quickly here. For me personally this thread is perfect example why I would never make a tech product for tech fans. Way too much hassle, complaints and never ending dissatisfaction.

I do wonder, why some people have the basic premise of attitude like "I am not happy with this, someone must pay and I must complain. I have to get everything NOW" instead of "I am not happy with this, how can I help to make it better"? What have we ever accomplished with option A? Please, don't answer, just me thinking/wondering and hoping others do the same in their mind.

Everyone, just chill. It is Friday, grab and enjoy a good beer or cocoa! At least here in Finland autumn colors are starting to look really beautiful! Maybe enjoy walk outside and only add to this tread when you have something constructive to add.

Best wishes

deutch1976 2019-10-04 08:46

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Loved it and had to share

"Since there is a lot of fuzz about the things that gone wrong (especially in other forums), I wanted to point out what this project has achieved so far and how remarkable that this is.

This guys refused to let people down after the MotoMod Project got hit
They started a own phone manufacturing company without using Crowdfunding
They designed and tested a hinge so good, that nobody worries about it at all
Every feedback from prototype devices where positive, including articles from tech magazines
Answered a lot of questions to the phone at the beginning of the project
Designed three keyboard layouts, two with the community
Collected thousands of preorders
Won prices for their first phone!
Started Production
So all there is missing is the actual delivery of the phone. And the only thing that went wrong is a delay of 3 months.
Does not sound that much in comparison, does it? Sure communication wasn’t the best, but there is a lot of indicators that the phone is gonna be delivered and that it is going to be good.

So I for myself see no reason to panic or cancel the preorder but the be positive and hyped about the next few weeks!"

HtheB 2019-10-04 09:09

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deutch1976 (Post 1560844)
Loved it and had to share

"Since there is a lot of fuzz about the things that gone wrong (especially in other forums), I wanted to point out what this project has achieved so far and how remarkable that this is.

This guys refused to let people down after the MotoMod Project got hit
They started a own phone manufacturing company without using Crowdfunding
They designed and tested a hinge so good, that nobody worries about it at all
Every feedback from prototype devices where positive, including articles from tech magazines
Answered a lot of questions to the phone at the beginning of the project
Designed three keyboard layouts, two with the community
Collected thousands of preorders
Won prices for their first phone!
Started Production
So all there is missing is the actual delivery of the phone. And the only thing that went wrong is a delay of 3 months.
Does not sound that much in comparison, does it? Sure communication wasn’t the best, but there is a lot of indicators that the phone is gonna be delivered and that it is going to be good.

So I for myself see no reason to panic or cancel the preorder but the be positive and hyped about the next few weeks!"

https://media1.tenor.com/images/0de1...c367/tenor.gif

Kabouik 2019-10-04 13:44

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deutch1976 (Post 1560844)
They designed and tested a hinge so good, that nobody worries about it at all

Everything you listed is significant, but this part is key. Actually the only reviews we got so far from journals or prototype events all agree that the hinge is spectacular. That, alone, deserves a lot of respect and shows the attention to details at F(x)tec.

olf 2019-10-04 17:15

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabouik (Post 1560840)
[...]Let's just stop feeding an hungry troll [...].

Unfortunately this failed here as at most of those troll incidents: Some people just don't comprehend that it is solely their replies / attention to the troll, which keep the troll going.
These people are an essential part of each trolling game, and IMO no better than a troll after this fact has been brought to their attention, regardless of their intentions.

This is a sad outcome, as the prerequisites were quite good: Only a single troll and many "social web" experienced, seasoned and smart people.
But one or two people who continue to feed a troll (unfortunately there are even more around here) are sufficient to completely dominate a discussion thread with their replies to the trolling. And as they keep going, the troll keeps going.

The result is always the same: A dead thread (in terms of real content), with piles of useless clutter / chatter.

rinigus 2019-10-04 17:41

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Let's add some content. This https://mutantc.gitlab.io/ has been posted as something in development. Haven't looked into it, but maybe is of interest for someone on hw keyboard device thread.

nh1402 2019-10-04 18:43

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
here's a video update from fxtec as part of the email.

mosen 2019-10-04 18:49

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
+1 for choosing Vimeo.
It plays nicely in Sailfish stock browser from email link :)

Only a transcript would have been good to share the info easily.

deutch1976 2019-10-04 18:50

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Well. 29th October is not so far as it seems

netman 2019-10-04 18:51

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
For those who have issues seeing the video or prefer a read, i have transcribed it:

Hi, it's Adrian, one of the co-founders of F(x)tec. I want to update you on the progress of the Pro1. This is our first launch, and we want to make sure we get it absolutely right. We said we were gonna launch in late summer and Chen and I are extremely disappointed that we haven't done so. But at the same time we are really proud of what our small team has achieved. As new entrant in the smartphone market we are subject to market conditions like all the other manufacturers. Back in August there were some key components that were in demand by other key players, unfortunately this caused some delays. Following this we had a few unexpected software issues which were found by our beta-testers, thank you guys, which delayed us in submitting the regulatory licenses and software licenses.

So, what's the latest? [*clack*, casually opens Pro1] The hardware is ready. We started production last month, and whilst we are currently on a break due to the Chinese national holiday we're ramping up again from the 8th of October. On the software front we've submitted the applications to various regulatory and licensing bodies and we're just waiting for their approval.

We will start shipping to you from the 29th of October. Chen, myself and the team are extremely grateful for your support; to our followers, our pre-order customers and our partners, we wouldn't be here without you guys. Thank you again, we're working to make the best device we possibly can.

nh1402 2019-10-04 18:53

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deutch1976 (Post 1560859)
Well. 29th October is not so far as it seems

For some, but for me, I'm not in the country when it ships.

deutch1976 2019-10-04 19:03

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nh1402 (Post 1560861)
For some, but for me, I'm not in the country when it ships.

You can always change your shipping adress :)

Wasmachinemann-NL 2019-10-04 19:25

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
So, wait, i'll be recieving my phone somewhere in very early November then?!

HYPE
https://i.imgur.com/eOSAyEX.gif

netman 2019-10-05 09:15

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https://www.timeanddate.com/countdow...1&font=cursive

Koiruus 2019-10-05 11:43

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shaihkritzer (Post 1560873)
why you all so sure there won't be another delay?

How are you so sure that they are going to release it after all? Could still be a scam... :cool:

nikos523 2019-10-05 11:48

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
How do we all know that this is reality and not a dream?
[emoji23]
Anyway, there is a date now. Let's wait and see!

Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk

DDark 2019-10-05 12:40

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nikos523 (Post 1560875)
How do we all know that this is reality and not a dream?

Wake up, nikos523...

Wasmachinemann-NL 2019-10-05 13:06

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DDark (Post 1560876)
Wake up, nikos523...

And smell the ashes.

Also, in about a month it's been a year since the Pro1 was announced, then under the ReadyFx brand.

DDark 2019-10-05 13:43

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wasmachinemann-NL (Post 1560878)
And smell the ashes.

Nah.. Wake up, an follow the good rabbit :)

Maemish 2019-10-05 17:49

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
"Universe is a hologram" was sprayed on a street nearby.

I just got a movie idea. To make a movie of this thread, showing (fictionally) what people have reacted between posts and how some have sipped their whiskey while writing, others ripping their hair of and picturing all the time the chronology of the production work going on with the F(x)Tec team.

Wasmachinemann-NL 2019-10-05 18:22

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maemish (Post 1560881)
"Universe is a hologram" was sprayed on a street nearby.

I just got a movie idea. To make a movie of this thread, showing (fictionally) what people have reacted between posts and how some have sipped their whiskey while writing, others ripping their hair of and picturing all the time the chronology of the production work going on with the F(x)Tec team.

The Making Of: Fxtec Pro1

I'd totally watch that!

Koiruus 2019-10-06 17:28

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wasmachinemann-NL (Post 1560884)
The Making Of: Fxtec Pro1

I'd totally watch that!

No, The Making Of: Fxtec Pro1 would be completely different movie. The making of [...], seen via TMO, would be like watching Gogglebox (Sohvaperunat in Finland) type TV show, which is basically a real-life TV series of people sitting on the couch and watching and commenting TV series. So we could make our own Gogglebox about us commenting the making of the Pro1.

VaZso 2019-10-06 23:49

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shaihkritzer (Post 1560898)
please remind me about the bootloader... did they promise it to be completely unlocked? so I can root or flash anything I wish? (unlike major manufacturers)

As far as I know yes, it is unlocked.

This is a quote from their official website here:
Quote:

"With the Pro1 you have the flexibility with the unlocked bootloader enabling you to load other popular OS’s such as Lineage and Sailfish"
So they are currently show on their website that it is unlocked as they also said earlier.

deutch1976 2019-10-07 12:46

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Canceling pre orders will only lead to one point. No company/team will ever try to bring us a niche product as we love. Neo900 was an amazing project and even so people just gave up when the team told everybody that they could not go any further. It is sad to see people leaving this boat because of a delay and it will sure not give us a Pro 2 in the future for sure. Chen and team, i am with you guys until the end :)

endsormeans 2019-10-07 13:20

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C'mon man...
Really?
There is no comparison to the neo...at this point at least.
Also...what do you expect from folks when a project declares that they are kaput??
Stay and keep dumping money and time and effort into a project that officially has said it isn't going anywhere?

Sorry...
No thanks.
Did that one already.
I forked out funds for half a neo ...
In my fervent belief.
And stuck it out...even when the writing was on the wall, and it was obvious, and I should have just gotten my refund like others did, instead of blindly and stupidly believing in a project that was Soooo not going anywhere...and Soooo obviously too.
Instead I hung in there ...
And watched it flushed away.
Sure supporting an endeavour is good...
And it is important...

But please don't go and say folks walked away...
That isn't the whole of the truth of it
And please don't think folks are silly enough to "hang in there" beyond what is sanely reasonable to....
Out of an exacerbated sense of loyalty.

All that being said...
So far...the only issue that the fx has suffered from ...are understandable delays...
So it isn't anywhere near the N.I.P. ("Neo Implosion Point") yet.

kinggo 2019-10-07 15:00

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shaihkritzer (Post 1560912)
and what happens if I brick the Pro1? can we have same option as maemo-flasher for desktop computer and just reflash it even if it won't boot?

then we all laugh forever after with big :D

Trzyzet 2019-10-07 15:31

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Today bootloader are almost idiotproof - Its almost impossible to brick device this times. You need to have really bad luck.

TheKit 2019-10-07 18:36

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shaihkritzer (Post 1560912)
and what happens if I brick the Pro1? can we have same option as maemo-flasher for desktop computer and just reflash it even if it won't boot?

Unless you break the bootloader, it is possible to flash using fastboot tool, which is common for Android flashing.

Otherwise, it can be a bit tricky a first, but you can reflash it either with QDLoader (official Qualcomm tool, but troublesome as it requires Windows) or with https://www.96boards.org/documentati...es/qdl.md.html on Linux (may not work in every possible case, but should be fine normally).

peterleinchen 2019-10-07 19:03

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Please just listen.

TheKit 2019-10-07 19:19

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1560921)
Please just listen.

That one, in particular, was legit question and this information can be useful in other people in the thread, that's why I replied.

peterleinchen 2019-10-07 19:33

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
As far as I understand (and may support) your rationale here it is still feeding (and it was not about you alone)...

n-mi 2019-10-08 10:43

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
I'm feeling that now there is an official date, and therefore no reason to troll on delays before this deadline, shaihkritzer asks a lot of technical questions in the hope to find a new bone to chew to troll everybody here.

kinggo 2019-10-08 13:18

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peterleinchen (Post 1560925)
As far as I understand (and may support) your rationale here it is still feeding (and it was not about you alone)...

mea culpa......
but since he was offering a slam dunk chance...

deutch1976 2019-10-08 15:31

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Now i have to agree with shaihkritzer. He was not messing with anyone. He only asked for a technical information. Come on guys, you can be better than this

DDark 2019-10-08 17:04

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
https://twitter.com/chenliangchen/st...92991061958657

Chen posted some cool camera samples on Twitter.

Colors seems to be way better than previous samples on FxTec forum, and by looking on dual camera depth effect, we may not need to install GCam at all.

nikos523 2019-10-08 18:40

Re: Are you Ready? F(x)tec Pro 1 HW Keyboard Phone
 
Quality looks mediocre at best, but I don't think that anyone would buy the Pro1 for the camera.
But as long as it shoots decent pics and they improve the software, I guess it's fine!

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