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shmerl 2013-07-15 03:02
Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
They said they consider Xwayland support - feel free to contribute to that cause, if you have some Qt 4 / Xorg applications you really need.

marbleuser 2013-07-15 03:17
Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1359022)
They said they consider Xwayland support - feel free to contribute to that cause, if you have some Qt 4 / Xorg applications you really need.
I've got those apps already, on my n900 via easy debian, why would i want to become an unpaid employee of jolla? i only contribute to causes i believe in. no x11=android. might as well go the whole hog and get a samsung.

shmerl 2013-07-15 03:58
Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
It's up to you what to use. Jolla does what's really important for Sailfish. And supporting Easy Debian shouldn't be on their priority list.

don_falcone 2013-07-15 06:26
Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1359022)
They said they consider Xwayland support - feel free to contribute to that cause, if you have some Qt 4 / Xorg applications you really need.
Huh? Aren't they a registered, commercial entity running for certain marketshare in Eastern Asia, unlike organizations f.e. like OpenMoko? I hope with contributing, you mean lobbying - not providing dev effort. People (should) expect & pay for certain support OOTB; it's definitely not a community-sourced & supported phone, but a commercial runner.

Otherwise, if you mean dev effort; don't get why (probably mostly) end-users should pamper them.

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Originally Posted by marbleuser (Post 1359021)
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i'll wait for about a year after it's launch before i seriously look at it now, rather than collecting tweets about how they've u-turned on stuff they promised. bait and switch. no thanks.
...my thoughts, albeit for other reasons too.

jalyst 2013-07-15 07:04
Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by marbleuser (Post 1359025)
no x11=android. might as well go the whole hog and get a samsung.
It's not as "black & white" as you're painting it to be in your last several posts.
Try reading the page just before you started spewing bile...

Here's a little snapshot of presumptuous assertions you've made before, only to be proven wrong shortly thereafter:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...45#post1287345
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...49#post1353649
It seems you've got somewhat of a problem with "shooting from the hip"...

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Originally Posted by don_falcone (Post 1359038)
Huh? Aren't they a registered, commercial entity running for certain marketshare in Eastern Asia, unlike organizations f.e. like OpenMoko? I hope with contributing, you mean lobbying - not providing dev effort. People (should) expect & pay for certain support OOTB; it's definitely not a community-sourced & supported phone, but a commercial runner. Otherwise, if you mean dev effort; don't get why (probably mostly) end-users should pamper them.
Rinse, repeat.... ;)
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...15#post1358915

shmerl 2013-07-15 15:57
Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by don_falcone (Post 1359038)
Huh? Aren't they a registered, commercial entity running for certain marketshare in Eastern Asia, unlike organizations f.e. like OpenMoko? I hope with contributing, you mean lobbying - not providing dev effort. People (should) expect & pay for certain support OOTB; it's definitely not a community-sourced & supported phone, but a commercial runner
No, they are non commercial open source project (Mer). That's where support for Wayland is coming from to Sailfish (besides the drivers of course). Therefore any XWayland integration would have to be added to Mer which is open for participation. So to put is shortly - if you need it, add it.

Jolla does contribute to Mer of course. Focusing on those parts which are needed for their product. But as I said, Mer is open for participation. It's not Jolla's commercial field. I guess if Jolla will be convinced that there is a big demand for XWayland, they'll add it to Mer themselves.

mikecomputing 2013-07-15 16:30
Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1358915)
Jolla's focus is to ensure it's as easy as possible to port apps from Freemantle/Harmattan/Elsewhere to Sailfish* via Qt5/HTML5/AlienDalvik, no more & no less.

It's up to Freemantle/Harmattan devs to decide whether or not to support their N9xx users by back-porting...
OR by getting Qt5 working nicely in Freemantle/Harmattan (if doable?) & maintaining their apps (tweaked for each UX) via it for Freemantle/Harmattan/Sailfish.

*even port many non-core/3rd-party apps themselves (they also need to focus on sourcing content, not just apps)
better use those resources making nemomobile fully working in that case. Try port qt5 + wayland to harmattan/frema is deadend...

mikecomputing 2013-07-15 16:33
Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by marbleuser (Post 1359025)
I've got those apps already, on my n900 via easy debian, why would i want to become an unpaid employee of jolla? i only contribute to causes i believe in. no x11=android. might as well go the whole hog and get a samsung.
since when did android run x11 :eek:

pycage 2013-07-15 17:09
Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1359145)
since when did android run x11 :eek:
(no x11)=android

I guess the equation is clearer now. :D

mikecomputing 2013-07-15 18:23
Re: Sailfish(Jolla): Ideas/Qns & Concerns/Criticisms
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by marbleuser (Post 1359009)
what a crock. they're basically relying on android apps then. existing qt4/x11 apps won't work.
porting apps from Qt4 -> 5 is probadly not a big issue... Second can someone confirm it is not possible run Qt4.8 in wayland?

Third people would complain like CRAZY if they don't move to Qt5 now people complain about they going future route instead of backward....

This is ****ing NUTS!


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