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Catacylsm 2010-01-30 21:34

Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?
 
oh god....right sooo

has nokia officially dropped support for the n900?
has nokia said that m6 will/wont run on the n900?

because all i see here is pointless speculation about the devices purpose and lifetime,

and please dont use iphone and n900 in the same sentence, they are both worlds appart but i'd easily class the n900 as the uprated device.

the fact is we don't know what will happen, but we do know there is a firm maemo community and that devices get nowhere without the community support, have faith people! i will have my device for two years on contract and ive been using it more then my main lappy, im attached to this thing and cant wait for future releases!

RevdKathy 2010-01-30 21:39

Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 502897)
Now Im going to look for posts from that kathy girl who has all them pics of happy bears around the place, to help cheer me up.

That Kathy girl with the bears is here. Actually, Andre and the bug team are pretty good guys, Even the ones who seem fierce and bad-tempered round here are good blokes when you meet them. They have to be quite strong to tame a monster like Bugzilla.

I think Nokia will go on ironing out bugs. There are rumours of at least a couple more updates (one minor, one more major) during the spring. What I suspect they will do less of is adding more features.

What you have to ask yourself is why you bought the device: was it for what it did have, or for what you convinced yourself it might?

See, I bought a feature set, knowing that it met *most* of my wishes/needs. And there wasn't a device out there with all of them. So I'm not really disappointed for what it doesn't have. And it will still have those things even when Maemo 6 comes out. If I'd waited for Maemo 6, then Maemo 7 would have been just around the corner. ;)

I bought it for what it does now. And it does. The community is adding features, but I don't expect Nokia will. I do expect them to fix the worst of the bugs. ;)

And Qt 4.6 is awesome. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1i0nDZgXvE

(And it definitely runs on n900 - it's running 'sheep' on My Mo ;) )

You have an amazing device in your hand... no, put that away! I mean your n900. You have the best spec and the best software right now. We might all be blowed up by an hemorrhoid before Maemo 6 arrives.

Aelhadidy 2010-01-30 21:41

Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?
 
After starting this thread and reading your helpful replies ,I have some positive thoughts:
What do we need exactly from Nokia (except another one or two firmware updates)? almost nothing!
-After seeing windows 3.11 / windows 98 / android running on N900, I'm almost sure that maemo 6 will be ported to N900 somehow unofficially.
when this happen, the whole problem will be solved (although this depends on the degree of compatibility after porting)
-Even if maemo 6 will not be ported to N900, currently Qt4.6 is being ported so maemo 6 apps written using Qt4.6 will be compatible with N900 and this ensures that n900 will have access to new apps after releasing maemo 6 and will not be dead as we fear.

So I think that the worst case of Nokia to ignore N900 is not a big problem.
Am I right in these thoughts or I am too optimistic?

RevdKathy 2010-01-30 21:44

Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aelhadidy (Post 503044)
After starting this thread and reading your helpful replies ,I have some positive thoughts:
What do we need exactly from Nokia (except another one or two firmware updates)? almost nothing!
-After seeing windows 3.11 / windows 98 / android running on N900, I'm almost sure that maemo 6 will be ported to N900 somehow unofficially.
when this happen, the whole problem will be solved (although this depends on the degree of compatibility after porting)
-Even if maemo 6 will not be ported to N900, currently Qt4.6 is being ported so maemo 6 apps written using Qt4.6 will be compatible with N900 and this ensures that n900 will have access to new apps after releasing maemo 6 and will not be dead as we fear.

So I think that the worst case of Nokia to ignore N900 is not a big problem.
Am I right in these thoughts or I am too optimistic?

I'd say you were spot on. ;)

Catacylsm 2010-01-30 21:46

Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?
 
noope your dam right ael , faith in the hardware software and the community will lead to high praised results!

i have no doubts at all :)

kojacker 2010-01-30 21:56

Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RevdKathy (Post 503040)
That Kathy girl with the bears is here.

Hi that Kathy with the bears :)

Quote:

Actually, Andre and the bug team are pretty good guys,
Yes, he probably is and I don't really hate him, but he'll have to do until I can find somebody who actually deserves it. I do still wish to tug his devil beard though, nothing you can say will quench that urge.

Quote:

I think Nokia will go on ironing out bugs. There are rumours of at least a couple more updates (one minor, one more major) during the spring. What I suspect they will do less of is adding more features.
Yes, I think you're right. But I wants moar features.. MOAR!!

Quote:

What you have to ask yourself is why you bought the device: was it for what it did have, or for what you convinced yourself it might?
Both of the above

Quote:

You have an amazing device in your hand... no, put that away!
Spoilsport.

Quote:

I mean your n900. You have the best spec and the best software right now. We might all be blowed up by an hemorrhoid before Maemo 6 arrives.
I have an amazing device in both hands, I've been checking out that thread about making certain videos invisble...

Not really ;)

RevdKathy 2010-01-30 22:02

Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kojacker (Post 503061)
Hi that Kathy with the bears :)

I have an amazing device in both hands, I've been checking out that thread about making certain videos invisble...

Not really ;)

Ceiling cat is watching you. ;)

blue_led 2010-01-30 22:04

Re: Will N900 be ignored by Nokia?
 
Before N900 a had Fujitsu T830. after a year of using T830 i want something better than it but until now i have no choice
Now I have large screen, usb2.0 but no host mode, great storage , decent camera, some extras like FM rx/Tx.
T830 have almost no support from fujitsu or siemens :o and it have lousy range of applications but iGo6 work great on it and i travel over the Europe guided by my T830.
I want from my N900 running app like IGo8, decent ( working ) imaps mail client, fast office suite ( with edit), remote desktop, secure connection to my servers and some games. until now n900 is 90% close to my desire. All of us we are a snapshoot on Nokia production plan/ range. Support from mother company would be gread. Decent default applications also would be great, bug fighting is energy consumming task. It is so hard to make bug free app. over the entire range of maemo ? Can we inherit app from previous release, bug corected ?
Is only a matter of will ! Hope Nokia have .
I love my N900, maemo so i took N810

jsa 2010-01-30 22:22

Re: Maemo 6 / Harmattan on N900?
 
I've been wondering about this.. does the N900 have all enablers required to implement the Maemo 6 security framework as described in these slides http://www.slideshare.net/peterschne...tform-security ? OMAP3430 data sheet mentions ARM Trustzone support but I have way too little knowledge about security and related sw/hw to really draw any conclusions either way.

By the way, the author of those slides answered some questions about the design here http://wiki.maemo.org/MaemoSecurity

wmarone 2010-01-30 22:30

Re: Maemo 6 / Harmattan on N900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jsa (Post 503085)
I've been wondering about this.. does the N900 have all enablers required to implement the Maemo 6 security framework as described in these slides http://www.slideshare.net/peterschne...tform-security ? OMAP3430 data sheet mentions ARM Trustzone support but I have way too little knowledge about security and related sw/hw to really draw any conclusions either way.

By the way, the author of those slides answered some questions about the design here http://wiki.maemo.org/MaemoSecurity

Ah "Security" and "Trustzone", aka "How your hardware is used by a 3rd party against you."


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