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itdoesntmatt 2015-10-15 16:00

Re: First thoughts about the (pre) Sailfish OS 2.0
 
stephan what do u mean?

ste-phan 2015-10-15 17:58

Re: First thoughts about the (pre) Sailfish OS 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by itdoesntmatt (Post 1485662)
stephan what do u mean?

You mean, about that battery? People were asking in this thread about replacement battery performance. I am confirming that indeed, this plan has worked out very positive during one month of daily testing.
(mostly running SFOS 1.1.7.28 though), see link for details shop.

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=151

Marold 2015-10-16 18:54

Re: First thoughts about the (pre) Sailfish OS 2.0
 
@ ste phan
!!!!!!!!! If its true, I will wait patiently before updating :D I'm more than happy :D Can we estimate when we can expect it to be released ? :>
Polarcell is working great so far ^^ and Im a little bit surprised because CSD tool shows me battery temperature so what was that all about, Can you Confirm that with your device ? :)

pichlo 2015-10-16 19:43

Re: First thoughts about the (pre) Sailfish OS 2.0
 
According to this TJC reply, the wrong temperature reading is expected:
https://together.jolla.com/question/...post-id-114108

EDIT: Although I cannot confirm it. CSD show 26°C for mine, about as expected.

bluefoot 2015-10-16 22:21

Re: First thoughts about the (pre) Sailfish OS 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1485153)
For me, it was a case of having to disconnect and connect again on my home network about every 10-15 minutes. Quite annoying and hard to forget. Since 1.1.9, I come home and spend the evening without a single loss of connectivity. I did not do anything to my home network setup, 1.1.9 is the only variable that has changed. Of course it may still be a coincidence.



What's that? If you mean the browser popping up in my pocket every time I stop to fill to fill up at Tesco, because Tesco is a remembered network going through a capture portal, then that annoys me to no end. I wish it was not there, or at least could be turned off.

I didn't say browser based wifi login worked properly. Just that it worked on some level. For me too it constantly logs out and then prompts you to log back in - on the same networks as Android and Ubuntu Phone work fine.

On another note, I had to upgrade to 1.1.9 from 1.1.7 as it seemed to be stuck in a constant loop of closing all apps as soon as I opened WhatsApp or one browser tab. Workflow is so god damned slow in 1.1.9 with all the features and UI elements that were stripped out. I hate it more with each passing day.

Marold 2015-10-18 15:51

Re: First thoughts about the (pre) Sailfish OS 2.0
 
Hi, its showing me in battery csd test 3x pass with voltage, energy and health and now for instance Temperature is 25,8 so its about right they maybe changed something in the battery hardware because I think its working good :)

bluefoot 2015-10-19 16:16

Re: First thoughts about the (pre) Sailfish OS 2.0
 
Well, Sailfish is over for me for now. Maybe for good. I can't live with 1.1.9 ... aside from just making everything slower and more ponderous due to removal of elements of the UI, it's totally unusable for me. The pulley menu (on both my phones) causes the phone to full freeze for 40-60 seconds every time it's used ... unless you say yes to the prompt saying the app in question is not responding and close it ... but then you can never use the pulley menus. It can't be used as a phone or communication device or even a toy. Also, the keyboard is back to crashing constantly in Alien Dalvik (this time with a new error - "remote keyboard has disconnected / stopped working"). All the recent Sailfish upgrades have made the phone and OS less and less usable for me, and increased instability and freezes.

I would say I'd be back with 1.2.x if it fixes things, but chances are slim I suspect.

I think this is so long and thanks for all the fish.

Good luck to those who choose to persist.

pichlo 2015-10-19 16:47

Re: First thoughts about the (pre) Sailfish OS 2.0
 
@bluefoot,
Something must be wrong with your unit. Clean it up, check and/or re-balance your FS, try a new battery...
I have not seen a keyboard freeze for months. I have not seen pulley menus freeze ever.
I have had a few random reboots recently but a new battery proved that the timing alignment with 1.1.9 was a coincidence.

Regarding the UI update... you cannot win them all. Some like the vicar, others prefer his maid, as my late grandfather used to say. You see a lot of whinging on the topic, coming mostly from the die-hard fanboys. I would never have expected it from you. I myself miss some featrues but find the new UI much more intuitive and easier to use in general. I am sure it will shake up eventually.

bluefoot 2015-10-19 16:56

Re: First thoughts about the (pre) Sailfish OS 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1486035)
@bluefoot,
Something must be wrong with your unit. Clean it up, check and/or re-balance your FS, try a new battery...
I have not seen a keyboard freeze for months. I have not seen pulley menus freeze ever.
I have had a few random reboots recently but a new battery proved that the timing alignment with 1.1.9 was a coincidence.

Regarding the UI update... you cannot win them all. Some like the vicar, others prefer his maid, as my late grandfather used to say. You see a lot of whinging on the topic, coming mostly from the die-hard fanboys. I would never have expected it from you. I myself miss some featrues but find the new UI much more intuitive and easier to use in general. I am sure it will shake up eventually.

Both units do it. One a first one. One from the final Spring'14 batch. It isn't a coincidence. They both freeze in the middle of extremely slow flash of the pulley selection. One has nothing on it. The other is my daily phone. The keyboard crash is in Alien Dalvik only (where the KB crashed more than in SF previously), but habitual.

I didn't criticise UI changes prior to using it, unlike others. Partly because it was impossible to discern much, as Jolla refused to put any footage out. Partly because I wanted to try it first. I did however use every swipe available all the time, and every shortcut. Some people are fairly slow and ponderous at using their phones. I'm not. May have made the OS easier for first time (and I mean very first time) users, but it's also made a slow OS even slower.

I'm not farting around anymore. It's a total waste of time and there's no evidence of improvement.

Bubbless 2015-10-19 17:21

Re: First thoughts about the (pre) Sailfish OS 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bluefoot (Post 1486033)
The pulley menu (on both my phones) causes the phone to full freeze for 40-60 seconds every time it's used ... unless you say yes to the prompt saying the app in question is not responding and close it ... but then you can never use the pulley menus.

I had that issue, fortunately a reboot fixed it.


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