Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

I might be a clueless from time to time. But I read so I try to add the facts I read into the holes in my brain and I constantly updated it when I receive new Information. You should do the same and do same and don't be so ignorant. If you can provide facts that Jolla changed their mind a third time a out the announcment. Please do so. You seems a bit delusional to the links I provided. Read them please and speak later. Wake up Jalyst!

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

You presented nothing that wasn't already well-known & well discussed here, countless times.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

I simply answer you question here and I never said availability, just announcment.

A bit grumpy today?

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Then I retract my initial post, I'm the one that failed in my reading comprehension.
How about some more interesting stuff being posted/discussed now...

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Ok, what would that be?

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Basically anything that isn't redundant noise...

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

You're asking way too much from Dave.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Yes, it's an unreasonable request!

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

+1 +1 ;) 10char

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http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/9/385...bile-processor

I think jolla should squeeze this in ASAP.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

lol jolla is probadly to small for MWC

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Do you mean jolla device screen size is too small for MWC?

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

No. He meant the company.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget....3-28-28600.jpg

If the Company bind this device would use the line "we are unlike" I would understand.

So anything except a disc phone from jolla would be a total disappointment.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Well, Samsung Note2 is pretty big, but it is still small enough to fit in jean's front pocket (having round corners helps alot). And it is fun to use two apps at once with Note2 or with SGS3.
http://www.product-reviews.net/wp-co...innovation.jpg

Note2's physical screen size is as big as they can get, I think, to be still comfortable without having foldable or rollable mechanism.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

That looks great. I CANT wait for galaxy note lll with 6.3 inch screen.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Marc Dillon as keynote speaker at MWC 2013. Let's see what news he has in his luggage to Barcelona ;)

Jolla to attend MWC 2013 in Barcelona
&
Keynote-Speaker list

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Thank you for that piece of info,
That is GREAT news. Happy see that. Especially that they get the guy from jolla who knows english. Even if his speach in Finland wasn't uber great, I think its great to see him practice on the big stage.

And to all who said that jolla is to small for MWC(yeah, I'm looking at mikecomputing & Co ;) ) . What do you say now?

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Calm down Dave ;)

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Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Sailfish need to lift their game & very soon, they risk losing most mind-share to Ubuntu:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/07/c...ones-February/
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/24/c...one-core-apps/
Having a device specially tailored for the OS before Canonical may redress much of that, but it's only part of the equation.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Yes, I concur! they need to step up their game.

Plus, I am already running Ubuntu, sort of ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=GgxzbvuHwi0

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

At the same time, the above project (12 core apps) shows that Ubuntu Phone OS has a lot to be developed. While Sailfish OS has a working Terminal for months, following some tweets months ago.

I hope Sailfish and Ubuntu Phone both be succesful.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

To say that somthing working inhouse is not the same working in the big world. I think jolla device is around 6 month away and ubuntu around 12 month. But I wouldn't be surprised if the dates are pushed even further to get everything together for a customer launch.

Just look at jollas SDK... Things always take more time.

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It's true that Sailfish(Jolla) are probably slightly ahead when it comes to core/native apps, but how much longer will that last?
Canonical has more resources at it's disposal, has a larger community, & most importantly seems way better at "leveraging the community".
So far Sailfish(Jolla) don't seem to be very good at the latter at all...

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Do you really believe that the terminal in the Ubuntu phone isn't already working? I'm quite sure the guys at Canonical had that working already.

Core app conversion should be rather simple. Licensing might be the issue. But as it stands, I have more faith in Canonical in that one department then most upstarts.

Let's see. Having both Jolla and Ubuntu out there, as well as Firefox OS means that we all have more options.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Don't forget Tizen.

Samsung also is after a small break interested to get Tizen ready.
Samsung has already few core apps, which it only needs to port from Android to Tizen. Samsung has a whole parallel ecosystem not dependent to Google. And as Tizen will be able to run Android apps, it has a good kick start right away. I guess, Samsung will release all its top end smartphones with both Android and Tizen, and device owners can then switch also later and many times between them.

So if I would have to bet, I would bet on Samsung and Tizen. It has huge resources to make it work.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

I'm personally hoping one of the MeR derivatives or Ubuntu has way more success, Tizen is a distant third as a priority, alongside FFOS/OWebOS.
We don't need a even more powerful Samsung dominating hw "&" sw spheres, not good for anyone (except Samsung) ultimately...

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

What do Jolla mean with "early Q1" for the SDK.

It's soon mid Q1? where is the SDK? anyone seen it?

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

They are busy with Fosdem. Probably after that.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Oh, I thought they toghter with their device had real multitasking, guess not ;)

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

It seems that jolla will have the scene for a few month before kickass duelboot ubuntu for android devices appears.

http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/25/u...roid-schedule/

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Yeah, I meant to post that & 2 more the other day....
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/25/u...out-app-store/
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/25/u...roid-schedule/
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/25/c...ins-interview/

Ubuntu will only be cultivating the dev scene by doing that*...
They won't capture mainstream attention until they have a device or devices purpose-built for Ubuntu Mobile.

*which is a important start & something Jolla needs to watch carefully, & counter or leverage.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Zopo Mobile? Sailfish on a Chinese phone? :(

OMG! They used to make Samsung clones!
http://zopomobile.co.in/

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Yeah already posted here....
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...43#post1318343
As for "clones", well that's kinda debatable*, & in some ways it's karma for one of the masters of "imitate/refine" --> "extend/innovate" (whilst remaining good value).

*& we don't know what their Sailfish device will be like, it could be completely different.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

There are already a lot of Chinese rebranded phones in India running Android and are quite affordable. Indian market is too competitive when it comes to price/specs. Players like Micromax and Karbonn are selling their quad-core phones at 1/3rd of the price of their Samsung/LG/Sony counterparts. And people know Chinese phones wont last long and hence they wont be ready to buy Sailfish spending more money (?) which would make them "just-another-player". IMO, Sailfish on a Chinese phone in India could flop. Idk.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

That Indian story was actually slightly incorrect, Jolla is targeting their ph for the top-end, other sailfish alliance members don't necessarily have to do that, the choice is theirs.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

In India there is big markets (not money wise though) to win. Lots of subpar Nokia Asha devices still sold there, which do not have correct Web-browser nor GPS-navigation and rather restricted 3rd party app supply. (And Ashas cannot have either much more, or Microsoft will force Nokia to use expensive WP on them.) Android will succeed in India also, whether with pure Android or with Sailfish or Tizen with Android app support.

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Yeah current Nokia management has guaranteed that WP will have to be pushed lower & lower, it was deliberate.
They knew S40 was limited as-to-how much it could be improved, & that longer-term it would be non-competitive.*
Meltemi was a way out of that, but that was deliberately stopped so that WP could eventually fill that space, which it's "starting" to do now.
But even WP won't go as low as the lowest Asha's go, the profit's already very tight at the top-end of the Asha price-range.

*it's actually still doing quite well in it's price range.

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What high-end phone can Zopo make? :D Other than quad-core processor and 2/3 GB RAM? Indian market is already flooded by cheap Android devices with these specs :D And afterall, Zopo is a Chinese phone and I believe Zopo + Sailfish doesn't stand a chance :o