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kollin 2014-01-19 23:52

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
I try to install this Android app:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...?id=one.dot.fm

and i can't because of this error from google play:

"This app is incompatible with your device."

How can i fix this?
:confused:

aegis 2014-01-20 05:43

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
@kollin, have you tried installing from one of the non-Google stores?

Silwer 2014-01-20 06:32

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kollin (Post 1407586)
I try to install this Android app:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...?id=one.dot.fm

and i can't because of this error from google play:

"This app is incompatible with your device."

How can i fix this?
:confused:

I had the same issue. Wanted to download Racechrono app. Did not allow to download for Jolla, however, was available for N9 running Nitroid!?!?

Later downloaded and installed the app from 1Mobile Market without any issues.

biatch0 2014-01-20 08:55

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
I've experienced this 3 times so far... just want to see if anyone else has too.

Double tap device to wake up, but for about 20-30 seconds (or at least it seems that long) the screen just refuses to respond to anything - slide up, slide down, slide side, etc. After the 20-30 seconds, everything suddenly is peachy and works perfectly.

nodevel 2014-01-20 09:33

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by biatch0 (Post 1407623)
I've experienced this 3 times so far... just want to see if anyone else has too.

Double tap device to wake up, but for about 20-30 seconds (or at least it seems that long) the screen just refuses to respond to anything - slide up, slide down, slide side, etc. After the 20-30 seconds, everything suddenly is peachy and works perfectly.

Is your battery level >10% ?

bockersjv 2014-01-20 09:48

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Screen wake up has been fine fro me on double tap. However sometimes I cannot end a call as the screen will not wake after going black from proximity detection.

tissot 2014-01-20 09:51

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by biatch0 (Post 1407623)
I've experienced this 3 times so far... just want to see if anyone else has too.

Double tap device to wake up, but for about 20-30 seconds (or at least it seems that long) the screen just refuses to respond to anything - slide up, slide down, slide side, etc. After the 20-30 seconds, everything suddenly is peachy and works perfectly.

I have had problem were they screen doesn't respond for around 3-5 seconds. It has only happened outside and it just happens that there's around -15C outside.... that probably has something to do with it. Even as I expect something else from a Finnish company. My Lumias have no problems in that kind of weather.

I would figure you wont have the same problem in Malaysia.

biatch0 2014-01-20 10:16

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
It's been cold in Malaysia recently... averaging about 25C in the evening. Probably not the reason... I didn't notice the battery percentage the first 2 times, but the most recent occurrence was with 80%+++ charge remaining.

droll 2014-01-20 11:08

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
I'm in malaysia as well. i see a different problem related to the screen. happened once ( i think it's software related). phone wakes up, i look at screen. within about 10 seconds screen turns off.

a reboot fixed it.

i don't think your problem is battery related.

btw, my phone slows and UI becomes jerky when i access the mail app while i am updating mails. is that what everyone gets? usually happens when i have a lot to sync.

i also managed to make the phone hang to the point when i double tap i only see backlight turning on. nothing on screen. but i know phone is still running because i was in a call using a BT headset and i could hear the other party speak. he couldn't hear me though. reboot fixed it.

llelectronics 2014-01-20 12:37

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
My guess is that it is connection related. At least I have this behavior of screen not unlocking for a few seconds until it reconnects to my wireless network.
Maybe it also happens with 3g network or so.

Watchmaker 2014-01-20 13:29

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bockersjv (Post 1407635)
Screen wake up has been fine fro me on double tap. However sometimes I cannot end a call as the screen will not wake after going black from proximity detection.

It happens to me too. We could open an issue on together.jolla.com...

Akkumaru 2014-01-20 14:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by biatch0 (Post 1407638)
It's been cold in Malaysia recently... averaging about 25C in the evening. Probably not the reason... I didn't notice the battery percentage the first 2 times, but the most recent occurrence was with 80%+++ charge remaining.

/OT
Wah, lucky for you to have 25C in Malaysia! I am averaging about 30C and I'm just blergh :D

kollin 2014-01-20 19:39

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aegis (Post 1407601)
@kollin, have you tried installing from one of the non-Google stores?

I can't find the same app in to the other stores. :(

Edit: Found it on 1mobile :D Thanx

b.cloanta 2014-01-20 20:20

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kollin (Post 1407752)
I can't find the same app in to the other stores. :(

Edit: Found it on 1mobile :D Thanx

You can try here to download from play store( only free applications)

droll 2014-01-21 06:39

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
i am seeing this issue again today. screen goes dark / turns off after only 5 seconds. double tap turns screen on again but it goes back to where i left off and not the lock sceeen.

edit: found that this is only triggered if phone is set to silent mode.

edit2: correction.
1. if i set the phone to audible mode, problem disappears.
2. if i set the phone to silent mode, problem reappears
3. after about 30minutes, i tried setting phone to silent mode again and problem didn't reoccur.

i'll try to find a way to reproduce it consistently.

tangent 2014-01-21 08:32

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
I noticed 3 blurry dots on the front camera images, what causes this? Dirt or dust?

zlatko 2014-01-21 09:10

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
@droll
I can confirm: I had exactly the same during the weekend: screen goes black in 5 seconds, double tap to unlock lands on the last used screen.. I didn't notice relation with silent mode activation. To get rid of this behaviour I had to reboot.
There is a bug report created at TJC: https://together.jolla.com/question/...a-few-seconds/ please vote to get attention guys.

droll 2014-01-21 10:16

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
agreed zlatko. i have reported it @ together.jolla too.
but in my case, toggling the silent / audible mode fixed the problem.

zamorph 2014-01-21 16:03

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Does anyone else have the same experience...?

For me, the direction that I have to swipe an application cover, to activate its' cover actions, is not logical.

For example, looking at the Phone app cover, it has a number keypad on the left. So, to my mind, I would expect that I need to swipe my finger to the left.

But it works the other way around. So I found I kept on activating the wrong cover action!

I suspect that Jolla engineers have already discussed & decided how this works. But I wonder if this could be changed? (I guess it would affect a lot of people!)

Or maybe there can be a setting for this behaviour?

droll 2014-01-21 16:38

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
just imagine the keypad on the left means the keypad is to the LEFT of the cover. therefore to bring it into the middle of the cover where your view is you need to swipe to the right.

that to me is intuitive and i picked that up right away.

JulmaHerra 2014-01-21 17:04

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Little tinkering around... I installed a Zarafa server with Z-push active sync. It works pretty well with Jolla's exchange sync. Just one question... has anyone been able to change the default calendar in Jolla? I can only create new meeting to default calendar which doesn't sync to my server. If I create an appointment in server, it will sync to my device but I just can't create new ones from the phone. Also, it would be nice to be able to sync all contacts to the server, but so far I haven't found out how to do it.

bockersjv 2014-01-22 10:44

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Calendar sync is pretty rubbish at the moment. I am awaiting feature updates to improve this, one of the few things I miss.

droll 2014-01-23 05:39

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
there are some android apps there that handle calendar and emails independently. i found some for exchange but they are paid apps.

i'll survive on OWA for now if i need to do anything that the internal apps don't handle.

Boxeri 2014-01-23 08:45

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by biatch0 (Post 1407623)
I've experienced this 3 times so far... just want to see if anyone else has too.

Double tap device to wake up, but for about 20-30 seconds (or at least it seems that long) the screen just refuses to respond to anything - slide up, slide down, slide side, etc. After the 20-30 seconds, everything suddenly is peachy and works perfectly.

I have experienced this as well. Also, if I press the power button the screen flashes to lock screen, goes dark again. But after this it is working normally. Have to search together.jolla if this issue is already raised up there.

Also, i am REALLY REALLY growing frustrated with the WLAN connectivity. It is still totally like a shot in the dark for me. Issues are so bad that I normally don't even use WLAN with the phone. Also, some android apps have started to behave weirdly, as one can inform me that I do not have connection to the network, but on the same time I am happily surfing the web with firefox or Webcat. This happens also with GSM network.

But still, jolla is growing better every day. I changed back to N9 for awhile, but after week or so, I was already eager to start using Jolla again :D

biatch0 2014-01-26 19:29

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Any recommendations on a CLI network monitoring tool? pkcon doesn't seem to have vnstat - is there anything else I could try?

Thoke 2014-01-26 19:55

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by biatch0 (Post 1409124)
Any recommendations on a CLI network monitoring tool? pkcon doesn't seem to have vnstat - is there anything else I could try?

I think nieldk had some in openrepos.net but he removed them. Maybe pm him?

PS: nieldk, I found parted, zypper and vim for sailfish expectionally useful, thank you! Hopefully after I got my phone back in working order again I'll be able to use them again (please).

droll 2014-01-27 08:15

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
not sure if this has been posted before but today i discovered it is possible to stand the jolla phone up on the table like the N900 with its kickstand.

just rest the jolla phone in landscape mode on the side and you can watch videos.

my son discovered this and i was surprised i didn't try it earlier. :)

edit: only works if you have it resting on the side that doesn't have the power and volume buttons.

zlatko 2014-01-27 12:28

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Some good news about the upcoming release, from TJL, @bijjal: "Landscape mode in Browser, keyboard and gestures will be part of the upcoming release."

EDIT: And features included in 1.0.3.3 being tagged with "jan14" there: https://together.jolla.com/questions...:jan14/page:1/
So far tagged:
1. Landscape mode in keyboard, gestures, browser and messages
2. Differentiate native SailfishOS and Android apps in Jolla store
3. Show slash (/) in the on-screen keyboard of the browser
4. Confirm calling from call list to prevent pocket calls
5. In calendar app it should be possible to select agenda and enter location

Nice find @jjaone! :)

bockersjv 2014-01-27 14:51

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
I like all them and have voted for all but the last one, which has just been a recent issue for me so glad it's included.

NFC patch is NOT in this release, just so everyone doesn't remove their bits of tin foil :D

Not seen Dave999s sig lately, has he got a countdown timer going ? :)

bockersjv 2014-01-27 15:23

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
It may have been asked in one of the 255 pages ...but is there any way to set folder to be ignored in the gallery section. I have over 1000 album art pictures clogging it up along with a load of pictures from a car manual taht I would like to exclude.

Many thanks

willi6868 2014-01-27 15:45

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bockersjv (Post 1409288)
It may have been asked in one of the 255 pages ...but is there any way to set folder to be ignored in the gallery section. I have over 1000 album art pictures clogging it up along with a load of pictures from a car manual taht I would like to exclude.

Many thanks

Just add a dot at the beginning of your foldername ... or is this not working on Jolla? :eek:

Edit: Just tested and it's working as expected. :D

m4r0v3r 2014-01-27 22:46

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
hmm i cant seem to import vcf files, theres no options for it under settings,apps,people. am also using the latest update, anybody any ideas

malkavian 2014-01-28 00:34

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
I have just read about this new package in Debian Unstable for mounting MTP gadgets as a filesystem:

http://packages.debian.org/unstable/main/jmtpfs

I'm sure lot of people will be interested ;)


Waiting for a hardware keyboard for Jolla, surviving with a N900 without USB port. an external charger and two batteries.

droll 2014-01-28 03:14

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 1409353)
hmm i cant seem to import vcf files, theres no options for it under settings,apps,people. am also using the latest update, anybody any ideas

vcf files. place them in the downloads folder.
then go to settings -> apps -> people

there should be an option on the 2nd half of the screen for "From file" and you should see your vcf files automatically detected. tap on the file to import.

m4r0v3r 2014-01-28 09:36

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by droll (Post 1409376)
vcf files. place them in the downloads folder.
then go to settings -> apps -> people

there should be an option on the 2nd half of the screen for "From file" and you should see your vcf files automatically detected. tap on the file to import.

Tried that tbh, no luck, I ended up uploading them to google and syncing, once two-way syncing was available that was my plan to have constantly backed up contacts tbh, but i suppose just gotta wait it out.

zlatko 2014-01-28 09:41

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
@m4r0v3r
Why don't you try the following:
Code:

invoker --type=generic vcardconverter bigfile.vcf
I imported ~1000 contacts that way.

m4r0v3r 2014-01-28 09:52

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zlatko (Post 1409412)
@m4r0v3r
Why don't you try the following:
Code:

invoker --type=generic vcardconverter bigfile.vcf
I imported ~1000 contacts that way.

I would but its way too late now :P

bockersjv 2014-01-28 09:55

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by droll (Post 1409376)
vcf files. place them in the downloads folder.
then go to settings -> apps -> people

there should be an option on the 2nd half of the screen for "From file" and you should see your vcf files automatically detected. tap on the file to import.

And before you do that it is a good idea to place all your .vcf files into a single file. Then import is a single click of a single file

bockersjv 2014-01-28 09:57

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
too late! Oh well at least you know. I did mine one by one the first time around.:(

bockersjv 2014-01-28 14:12

Re: Jolla User Experience Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by willi6868 (Post 1409294)
Just add a dot at the beginning of your foldername ... or is this not working on Jolla? :eek:

Edit: Just tested and it's working as expected. :D

Whilst this stops album art in the Gallery it also stops the music showing in the Media gallery :(


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