Originally Posted by qole (Post 339873)

Drink!

Originally Posted by Peter@Maemo Marketing (Post 318414)

Yes, having MMS on a feature phone is important, but the N900 isn't a feature phone with limited resources. . We prioritized our resources to have brilliant multitasking of the frequent use cases. You can share photos easily to the Internet or by email. Implementing MMS would have meant dragging the ancient WAP 1.2.1 standard used for the push notificatiom to a modern computer OS in times when our target audience wants to share high quality images to Flickr, Facebook, Picasa, Ovi and so on. MMS receipt would maybe gotten us far enough, so others can send her photo to you, but we decided to put our R&D into other areas. I hope consumers will forgive us for the time being.

Originally Posted by lerage (Post 348919)

Shall I be able to send and receive pictures/photo's via bluetooth if not by mms

Originally Posted by twaelti (Post 318662)

Maemo 5 and the N900 look brilliant. But: don't forget the past and present! There are still many many many mobile phone users who are NOT into "online web 2.0", but who are simply very happy if you send them an MMS, because it is a very simply use case, has reasonable pricing and they will not need any kind of special data plan. In fact, for anybody I know without an iPhone, MMS is the one and only way to share a picture from his/her mobile phone. This includes coworkers, friends, parents and wife.

The N900 MUST include MMS. Especially when Nokia shoots at the iPhone in their marketing materials (like copy/paste, no jailbreaking needed, battery changeable). This would be just too inconsistent.

Originally Posted by Peter@Maemo Marketing (Post 318414)

Yes, having MMS on a feature phone is important, but the N900 isn't a feature phone with limited resources. . We prioritized our resources to have brilliant multitasking of the frequent use cases. You can share photos easily to the Internet or by email. Implementing MMS would have meant dragging the ancient WAP 1.2.1 standard used for the push notificatiom to a modern computer OS in times when our target audience wants to share high quality images to Flickr, Facebook, Picasa, Ovi and so on. MMS receipt would maybe gotten us far enough, so others can send her photo to you, but we decided to put our R&D into other areas. I hope consumers will forgive us for the time being.

Originally Posted by simonpdavies (Post 379303)

Peter.. Thanks for the most informative response to this issue I have seen. However.. MMS has to be part of this device. It absoutely has to and will lose many many consumers by not being there. I know a lot don't use it but a lot do also and are not all on data plans or using websharing..which is not instant like MMS/SMS. Big mistake! I was going for N900 and have been Nokia Fan for years but now....well IPhone (reluctantly) or Motorola Droid/Milestone... Sorry Nokia.

Originally Posted by daperl (Post 379477)

It took Apple 2 years to support MMS, and in The States, it took AT&T about another 4 after that. Think about the message it would send if shortly after the n900 release, the community implements MMS. We can build and flash our own kernel (I hope). Maybe it's an OSS blessing in disguise. This kind of thing could attract developers and consumers. And if I've been reading the MMS threads correctly, I think it already has.

Originally Posted by johnkzin (Post 340083)

I'm exactly the opposite.

MMS might be useful sometimes, when dealing with the ignorant and/or people whose devices are from the stone age (but, even then, I prefer to tell people "I can't MMS, send it to my email address") ... but, even just looking at what MMS does, it's a stupid-person's implementation of email (the stupid-person being the one who designed it, not you for using it). Recipients, including email addresses? check. Subject line? check. Message body + media attachments? check. MMS == email designed by idiots.

Further, for any sort of attachment or media file, I want to have it stored somewhere more permanent, useful, and scalable than my handheld (with the option to download/cache it on my handheld).

All of that says to me "email it to me, don't MMS it to me".

MMS isn't just blemish on the evolution of data protocols, it's redundant to email, and email serves that function better. Any device which simply avoids implementing MMS and says "use email instead" is a device that deserves my kudos.

Originally Posted by MountainX (Post 379540)

I don't even care much about MMS myself, but I think this is a great perspective. I agree that this could be a great and exciting opportunity to showcase OSS. Thanks for posting this idea. I agree with you 100%.