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If you thought it was going to be manufactured in the UK i don't know what to tell you.

The device being built in China issue the issue, that is where phons are made. Asian customers getting it now is not the issue, they have just as much right to the phone as you.

Un-communicated delays are the issue, and it's bad on their side to keep doing it even after being called out on it before. It just happens to effect EU and US customers.

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I think if 29th was announced as the start date of shipping and they started transporting devices, they kind of made it. If the phones are produced, I don't think it really matters whether they will get sent this week, next week or a bit later.

Compared to Neo900 for example, I don't see reasons to worry that much if that was kind of device you waited for years.

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Nothing really matters regarding most things. Nobody is loosing their homes or job, I get that.

I'm personally just frustrated as they keep moving dates (multiple times now), changing items (no more case with the phone, now a sleeve), and generally being vague and coy.

When any product says "shipping 29th" it means it on it way to customers. They know they would not manage this as the phones are still in China, and still being produced, but instead of letting us know this, they said all was going to plan, until the date arrived and they they mention its only to some customers in one region.

Yes the kind of made it, but that is giving them credit in doing the minimum, if it was their first delay or miss-communication fine, but its a trend now so they dont really deserve credit.

I really dont like being this negative, but they sure are not helping.

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To be fair, we can probably expect a much shorter delay than that since some units were already at the Chinese customs on the 29th, and they travel by air freight. Now we don't know how many units have left China, so predictions on shipments for most pre-orderers remain difficult.

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You are more positive than I :)

I picture a few days to get to EU (where mine will be sent from), a few days to clear customs and get to the fulfillment centers, a few days to pack, and then they are off... at least the firs few hundred or so... and I will not be in the first batch.

but i'd love to be wrong

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I am guessing (maybe mistakenly) the first units mentioned on the 29th should have went through customs already unless something went wrong, and perhaps they have already been imported in the destination country. But I'm afraid the packing/labeling for final shipments to customers could be very time consuming depending on the number of units and the available workforce. I remember how painful it was for Jolla on their first phone; surely they sold more units at once and the release date was the same for all stocks, but I hope F(x)tec won't face the same kind of issues at this step.

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Which are you:

a) a linux enthusiast and developer

b) a geek (and linux enthusiast)

c) a hacker shifting from N900 to a new qwerty device

d) a privacy concerned citizen

e) a mere consumer in a rush for a new device?

Waiting is painfull and the time when you follow it get's longer.

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I seriously doubt anyone from our forum falls under your categorization "e" ..." A mere consumer in a rush for a new device ..."

Sure there are lots of folks in our forum chasing shiny shiny new things all the time...
Jumping on the the latest hope...
Rushing like lemmings ...praying for ....

Oh damn...
Ok Maemish .......so maybe you have a valid arguement for "e" category after all...
:D

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No, they didn't make it. They specified the 29th wouldn't be shipping "internally" to customs or to fulfillment centers, that it would be to customers instead. Besides, they are saying they're shipping to certain Asian customers, but there's been no third party verification about that and even themselves are being a bit vague about this. They could easily be lying about this as well, it's not like they don't have a track record of actions like those.

I also just don't trust the video. This is pure speculation, but to me it seems like it was made last week. Like it was supposed to be the promised update video that never came. But because Chen said the phone would be shipping at the end of the week, and they noticed they didn't come close to it, they just decided to delay the video instead.

And you're right, I don't think it really matters if the shipment date slips by a couple of weeks either. The problem is that these "minor" slips have been happening constantly. From summer, to shortly after your payment request, to late summer, to early October, to mid October, to the 29th at the latest, to mid November for most if not all, to late November for general availability. That's 5 months in case you didn't realize. Sure, most of those were "soft" dates, but that's part of the problem.

Considering there's at least 1 device in the wild in EskeRahn's hands, who's also been realistically critical at recent "marketing" developments, but who's been praising the hardware (aside from a couple of nitpicks), I think these issues are (gladly) only on the "marketing" side. Seems to me like they're engineers who're good at engineering, but not so good at marketing. Which in the end when you have the phone wouldn't be an issue, but right now it's extremely annoying. So I don't think it's an elaborate scam, or that they won't be able to deliver, I just think (and please don't take it personally) that all the marketing and customer relations is a bit mismanaged.

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As mentioned a few posts back, don't mock the "mere consumer", or as I prefer the "average user". I feel like there is a condescending tone and that's not cool.
The average user 10 years ago was making calls and sending sms. Huge difference between him and a geek/power user.
The average user today uses 3-4 social networks, another 4 messengers, browsing, photos, games and other apps.
Meaning the MOST power and spec hungry apps today.
And he demands seamless transitions, fluid user experience, other gimmicks, design and battery.
It's because of the "average consumer" that we have so many great devices today, even at low prices.

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It has now been 2 full days since the 29th of October, which they said would be the latest day they would ship to customers (not to fulfillment centers). They have also claimed since that they have shipped on the 29th. We also now know that this first batch (which is already a "relatively small proportion of all orders") only had a "very small quantity" of Asian shipments (compared to the total shipments), which wouldn't have another step in between and would be the only shipments that would have a shipment notification. Has anybody seen any shipping notification yet? Because I haven't. Wondering when that will change, I hope soon. This small amount of Asian shipments seems like a good excuse for why there are no shipment notifications in the wild, it's also deceptive and not really what they implied. The other shipments from this first batch would get their phones next week at the earliest. Anything after next week I'd consider mid November by the way, after the 10th.

There's also been another delay, in that "most of the pre-orders will be completed until the end of November." which used to be mid-November, and that "general availability" will be "in December" which used to be late November. So an average delay of 10 days depending on what you think is mid or late November. Of course, no official notification about this, in fact "Since the update above (Adrian's video of shipping on the 29th), the information hasn't changed."

EDIT: Most of this info is from Erik, who just said that he generally doesn't have more info than the publicly available info. So, we basically know nothing still aside from speculation.

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Calm down!
There is zero evidence that the Pro1 devices has been produced at all! :D
Just relax and wait to see what happens next.
And if we never get the "thing" to our hands, you can cheer up yourself with the fact that the author of this posting was as stupid and gullible as you were :p

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Damn guys, I tell you something...

This night I dreamed about typing on my Pro1 in the bus. So... :D

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It would deserve a movie if this would be a hoax. And a very deep hole for a hiding place. The amount of money put on this stuff. All the devices already manufactured people have seen. All the public showcases etc. and giving it to be tested and advertized. If you count the time spent on all this plus the costs I doubt that they would make such a big profit with the preorders that it would pay off.

Powerful is the imagination. Presuppotions are bad compasses for the mind. Stigma is easy to give, hard to take back. Sticks much longer on the one who have falsely stamp it on someone than the one stamped.

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Sorry if the e) option hurt. Yes there was a tone on it but not a hard tone. Just a slight.

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Can I be an "abcd"? I like that better than my Myers-Briggs horoscope letters.

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I thought I read Erik say the first batch is a small one and the second batch going out mid November will cover the majority of the pre-orders. They aim to have all pre-orders covered before December which is when general availability will start
Really feels like another delay without officially announcing it as such...

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It didn't hurt anyone. What I said is just the truth.

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@Maemish - "Kanada!"

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TETSUOOO!

10char

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How do You know "kummelit"? ;)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-08OyPwwFR8

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Give it up for 3 full days since the 29th of October, which they said would be the latest day they would ship to customers (not to fulfilment centers). Erik has also stated since that he "has been told that customers from the 1st batch will soon receive a confirmation that stock has been assigned to their order.", which is contradictory to the statement that they've started shipping, but despite that they're still on track!

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Where is your christmas spirit? Give it a break and stop acting like babies. Have you guys ever tried to negotiate with Chinese government or customs?

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...and BTW... it is weekend...

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I've been giving it a break for 4 months, it's just that this particular tactic of saying you shipped something and then not shipping rubs me the wrong way since it's been used maliciously very recently. And yes, I have.

Correct, which is the reason why I thought it was odd that Erik said he "expects it (a confirmation that stock has been assigned to their (1st batch) order) to be done by tomorrow.", which is today.

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Reading the comments here and on the F(x)tec forum, I can only conclude that Chen, Brian & Co. are onto something.

Touch wood!
And for sure, touch Pro^1 ;)

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Definitely! :rolleyes:

Seems that it's not that much waiting for 'deliverance' which stresses out folks, but the idea of yet another déjà pas(!) vu.

I've just put my mind to it not to bother about that anymore: it doesn't help.
Just like bothering about the frequency of your reactions.
I do appreciate the bottom line of them, though. For yes, promises get to be broken far too often.

Not something F(x)tec has a monopoly on, though ...

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It's another new day, so it's now been 4 full days since the 29th of October. It's now Sunday, and as most people expected nothing really happened yesterday. I wonder that if the shipment notifications of the first batch finally come out, if there will be any included for Asia, since those are the only ones that supposedly shipped directly to customers on the 29th. Or if there will only be EU/US ones to hide their lies.

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Have I missed something? Is this cancelled or what ?

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Naw people are just anxious because it's shipping time and there is silence.

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no...... he just created more accounts so that he can have someone who shares the same opinion and spread the same BS :rolleyes:

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Definitively not canceled.

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Are you calling me an alt account? Because I definitely don't think it's a scam at this point like he seems to be saying. Or who are you talking about then?

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Could we please have a low-traffic thread with relevant information only? Believe me or not, I can really count to four, or maybe even twenty.

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Do whatever you want, I'm just here to keep people from forgetting that fxtec directly lied about shipping on the 29th and the discussion about that. I wouldn't post in such a thread unless there's be some actual news then. I get that informationless posts can be annoying if you're just clamouring for info, I know I am annoyed sometimes.

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And complains should have at least some truth behind.

I did not want to do this, but I just got enough from you.
You have given misinformation maybe more than F(x)!

I have lost nothing with my preorder.

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Just to sum up what we know from recent updates and Twitter posts. First batch devices are in hands of their delivery partner company now. While this adds additional delay which is pretty much out of their control, I think final mile delivery will start next 1-2 weeks.

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Those complaining now will soon regret that they have no preorder :cool:.

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Just to be very precise - no, we do not know yet anything. We just have told so. ;)
It could be a very big difference there... :D