Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

I was saying they don't have to target the same segment that Jolla is, going by their track-record, I'd "assume" they're going for a different one.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Repost:

DANGER DANGER DANGER.

http://sailfishos.org/ destoyed!

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Screw you :p

Its up and fine...

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Yeah, its back again after a looooooooooooooooooong break.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Is this thread also going to be moved here?
http://talk.maemo.org/forumdisplay.php?f=52

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

damnit dave! i now have more adrenaline than is right and proper at this hour

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

ROFL, he's a serial pest isn't he ;-P

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

I don't know, I asked if we should pm administration for the new subscription about threads to move. But when I think about it reporting might be better.

Another smart move would be to merge this with the other huge sailfish now on video thread. No point in having two huge threads.

And why is that?

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

I reported that post when I 1st posted it, now we just have to wait for the mods.

I tried to get that done ages ago but was met with resistance to the idea...
They're both just "general news" threads really, neither are terribly specialised.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Great work jalyst. But what is your tactics to fight and overcome this resistance?

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

LOL what? 10char

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

this isn't a jolla thread anymore if you ask me, too off-topic for the most parts....
so thread no moving

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Cool, although the other thread that someone moved to Sailfish sub-forum is no different, so long as Dave's around ;)

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

I agree with you, but I also disagree with you.

It's not just 100% procent jolla in this thread, but consider the length, this thread has more jolla info than the thread in the Jolla sub. The Big thread in the Jolla sub is a copy of this one with less then 100% jolla talks. And here comes the smart part: If you have two threads that are simular and both are too long for anyone to read, then merge them to save us the time and thread space.

Ofc you are the moderator, but when we now have new subs, I would defenetly use them and at the same time eliminate multiple threads. But that just me.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

That's true, I'm staying as long as I'm needed just to keep the thread on track.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Do you think jolla will/can/dare to show somthing at MWC? Their are pretty big lions their do eat the media attention. But their is also a lot to win to show what you working on over their.

Still no SDK. But it should be available any day now.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

my last hope is 11 february 2013 altleast come with any jolla news! Sdk atleast!!!

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Looking like Jolla will be at FOSDEM. So... SDK might be making an appearance and/or more announcements in the next couple of days.

Let's see...

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

https://twitter.com/thp4/status/297712780528730113
https://twitter.com/netvandal/status/297719334334238720

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Thp rules...

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

2 things why balancing is not a good idea [to me]:
1. Easier to snatch by people who are fond of other people's belongings (I know this doesn't apply to you, Dave, you must be lonely in the moon ;-) )
2. Easier for the phone to be knocked over while travelling on the train or bus or any other form of public transport at rush hour.

I kind of agree with your point of "the bigger the better" for driving, but then again, the N9 has a bigger screen than any GPS/map device I've seen on any cab so far, so really don't know why you'd want it any bigger *if* you also want to use it as a portable phone?

Or is HTC's idea of selling you an appendage classic phone to connect to the bigger phone that you have taped to your chest or back a better idea?

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

What have never heard about some stealing the phone from someone hand.

Don't travel with trains so I don't know. But with cars, plans and helis its great.

Pretty lonely at the moon, but if someone tried to grab my phone it probably don't turn out so well for the thief.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Not to do with Sailfish, but still of interest to F/OSS followers
https://twitter.com/jukkaeklund/stat...62708198842369

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Same here, off-topic but certainly of interest/concern:
https://twitter.com/JediTWang/status/299445602205446144
Seems their ph(s) is coming much earlier than the original time-frame of late Q4 or early 2014.
Lucky they're only targeting the low-end, initially...

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

What. are going off topic. You have totally lost it...

Great. That makes Tizen an even bigger chance for success!

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Had a short chat with one of their devs after his talk at FOSDEM. They're doing a 'nokia' on this: parts of the software will remain closed source, including binary blobs and drivers, and most of their apps, although he did say they might open some of them depending on external factors (I assume he means pressure from the community)

But still: not quite open source so now I'm not so convinced any more that I'd buy a phone from them...

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Wasn't that clear from the start? At least it is what I had always expected and I've never heard anything else since day 1.

I can live with proprietary drivers. They are a PITA and always have been, but then: It's the world we live in. Most Android phones are no different. I doubt they choose proprietary firmware drivers just because they want to be evil. I assume they have a choice to make: Get attractive hardware out or be 100% free.

Proprietary things on the very top (like stock applications) are OK for me as long as the functionality they offer isn't bound exclusively to them via some obscure "security" mechanism. In other words: I really don't care if the phone application is open or closed. But I'd expect the system to allow developers to write a free and open alternative with the same functionality.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Says the man, who has a huge track-record of constantly derailing & adding noise to this thread, to the point that it was eventually moved to off-topic.

I think you'll find that there's far more significant (& multiple) ingredients required for success than whether it's closed or open.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Don't blame me for how you act. Just say you did it! ;) Canät believe its hard for all of you admit that you contantly go of topic. We do it. Stop blaming others for your actions...

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Well, that's kind of a given, how you would expect THAT to be open I'm not sure.

They've always said they'll differentiate from other Sailfish vendors with their own closed/proprietary topmost layer (i.e. all/some stock/integrated apps).
Then there's this (amongst other things) that was tweeted by devs attending the conference the other day:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...31#post1320131

+1

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

You're welcome for the link to the story... try digesting it's substance now...

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

I usually don't read off topic stuff. I post them. But for you I can make an exception since you still going with the attitude: It Wasn't me :D

Thanks for the link.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

ubuntumobile ui looks really crap same uglyness as the desktop ubuntu does.

I go for kde or sailfishos.

But I think Jolla die soon, and what a shame if I am right :(
They have to deliver NOW and start marketing for f... sake!!

People already knows about ubuntumobile and firefoxmobile, and its already hype, only maemo people knows bout jolla :(

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

You're def. right that Ubuntu (rightly or wrongly) seems to have markedly more mind-share already, despite (probably) being a few steps behind.
I guess their desktop & enterprise history/name has (somewhat) helped with that...

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

They have a fairly succesfull product out there, a very good brand recognition in the tech crowds.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

16 Days to Sailfish SDK!
46 Days to first jolla device announcment!

And MWC around the corner. Will be a great Feb.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

14 & 45 actually (13 & 44 if you're in a advanced time-zone like Australia/NZ etc)

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

So you are steeling an extra day from jolla. How rude.

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

WhoHo. It very soon only ten days to SDK :D

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 

Wait! What? This isn't the countdown thread! I'm so confused!!