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Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Estel: When I ran it, LXDE from your image wasn't configured very well; the theme, panels, fonts, and background were not set correctly. That's what I meant.

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 1160924)

Estel: When I ran it, LXDE from your image wasn't configured very well; the theme, panels, fonts, and background were not set correctly. That's what I meant.

That's the same thing that has happened to me. I thought it was due to my lack of knowledge around ED as it's the first time I have set it up, but the appearance of LXDE seems unmodified, even the panels are not autohiding or configured for finger use as you explained before.

Maybe it's a wrong image?

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

@impeham
Nope, in my case Shockwave Flash is also listed - 9.0 r31, provided via /usr/lib/browser/plugins/libdebianflashplayer.so

If you wait a little, we can move this discussion to new thread.

@qole, ivgalvez
Damn, I have no idea why it was looking like that. Thinking about that, it's probably missing configuration from /home/user/.config/lxpanel and similar things.

qole, do you remember which files from /home/user/(.config?) exactly are used by ED? I would upload them, as a "hotfix", for separate extraction.

As a long-term solution, I would use - as You suggested - "onfirstchroot" scripts, to unmount Maemo /home/user, and it would use own ED content. uploaded in new version of image.

Does anyone have idea, how such script should like? Or, maybe better ideas to solve that?

/Estel

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

The Chromium plugins problem is another example of the missing home directory config files. I've got a few pots on the stove, but I'll try to make a script for you to unmount the /home/user folder in the image...

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1160956)

@impeham
Nope, in my case Shockwave Flash is also listed - 9.0 r31, provided via /usr/lib/browser/plugins/libdebianflashplayer.so

If you wait a little, we can move this discussion to new thread.

Of course i will - this was my next question - seems like chromium related issues :)

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by eight (Post 1160174)

I guess you want to copy the estel-image to mmcblk0p4?

First mount the image and the partition mmcblk0p4 to a directory:

Code:

mount -o loop /home/user/MyDocs/ed-squeeze-final.ext3 /media/ed



mkdir /mnt/debian-tmp

mount /dev/mmcblk0p4 /mnt/debian-tmp

Then your copy command should look like this:

With your command above, you copy from (empty?) mmcblk0p4 to the mounted ed-image.
----> the general principle is alwas: cp <-opt> <source> <destination>
You can also copy/backup directly from partition (mmcblkXpY) to image file and verse visa with dd.

Example:

Code:

dd if=/dev/mmcblk0p4 of=/home/user/MyDocs/part0p4.ext3

Code:

dd if=/home/user/MyDocs/part0p4.ext3 of=/dev/mmvblk0p4

Everything worked except copy command.As soon as i issued that command my device froze for sometime and gave some error messages about epiphany.After that It got switched of itself.When I edited chroot and started ED it complained of non existing image in said partition.Anyways Thank you.I will patiently wait for a new thread and dedicated partition related tutorial.

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

sorry for the silly question but how to run from estel img chromium or libre office from terminal with debbie?
thanks

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by guilledoc (Post 1162178)

sorry for the silly question but how to run from estel img chromium or libre office from terminal with debbie?
thanks

chromium:

Code:

debbie chromium-browser

libre office writer:

Code:

debbie lowriter

spreadsheet:

Code:

debbie localc

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by udaychaitanya16 (Post 1161592)

You might want to set 'nice -n 19' before the copy command to ease the burden of the I/O-process like that

Code:

nice -n 19 cp -a /media/ed/* /mnt/debian-tmp/

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

If you are having copy / decompression problems when using the MyDocs directory, you probably need to run the following two commands before trying the copy command:

Code:

sudo nr_requests_setup

sudo swapoffon

If that doesn't work, reboot your phone and try again.

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Had also problems with reboots while unlzma'ing and found out that on my n900 enabled SmartReflex VDD1 causes this.
Tested it with 900 to 600 Mhz and always reboots with vdd1.
After disabling vdd1 these high-load-tasks work on my device flawlessly, even at 900 Mhz.

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

So make sure you turn off SmartReflex VDD1 on your N900, although it should be off by default:

Code:

sudo "echo 0 > /sys/power/sr_vdd1_autocomp"

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

First I have turned off smartreflex from /etc/pmconfig,though cpu is at 805.

Then entered

Code:

sudo nr_requests_setup

sudo swapoffon

There after copy command.

Though the device is not switched off itself,since 15 minutes x terminal froze .Even the backlight is not turned off.Still waiting to observe what happens.:cool:

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by eight (Post 1163082)

eight, what kernel are you using?
The VDD0/1-Settings is to activate SmartReflex, but this runs only reasonable with KernelPower49.
With the one in extras-testing you can safely overclock to 805MHz at the most devices and the battery-savings are awesome.
Only a hint and sorry for the off-toppic. :D
More informations can be found here.

HTH and HAND

CU Michael

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

I'm using power49 withd vdd1 and vdd2 enabled at 900 Mhz for some days now.
Works well expect of unlzma'ing big archives. To be more precise, dd .. or tar -cfz (-xfz) of my 3 Gig debian partition works without issues.
Only lzma gives reboots even with nice -n 19.
I have tested it with this archive: http://qole.org/files/maemo-sdk-v1_2.img.ext2.lzma
Switching SR VDD off for lzma tasks like this is quickly done.

And the battery-savings of VDD2 are really good. A big difference, compared to only-vdd1-mode and directly noticeable. :)

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Ok, here's how to disconnect the image's /home/user directory from the Maemo version, allowing for per-image user settings.

Create a script in the image's /var/run directory called "onfirstchroot-ext.rc", or add the following lines to the existing script:

Code:

umount -f "$CHROOT/home/user/MyDocs"

umount -f "$CHROOT/home"

mount -o bind /home/user/MyDocs "$CHROOT/home/user/MyDocs"

If there are some settings directories you wish to share between the two environments, you can use the syntax of the last line (the "mount -o bind" line) to bind other home/user directories from Maemo to their corresponding directories in Debian.

Now you can copy all of your Debian application settings into the image's /home/user dir, and things will be the same on everybody's N900.

ESTEL: Please either do this with your image and re-upload it, or give me the zip file of your home directory settings files, and I'll do it on my qole.org version.

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

I have been testing Estel's image installed on my SD card (ext3, non dedicated partition) with no problems.

Now I've tried to gain some performance by enabling swap on SD:

Code:

sudo swapon -p 0 /dev/mmcblk1p3

sudo swapoff /dev/mmcblk0p3

As a result:

Code:

~ $ cat /proc/swaps

Filename                                Type            SizeUsed     Priority

/dev/mmcblk1p3                          partition       795208       64376   0

Everything seemed to work OK. tried Fennec and it was slow as usual. However when I run ED LXDE I receive this error:

Code:

Mount failure!

/mnt/data/easydebian/ed-squeeze-final.ext3 failed to mount on loop0

mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on /.debian failed: Invalid argument

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by ivgalvez (Post 1164560)

Code:

Mount failure!

/mnt/data/easydebian/ed-squeeze-final.ext3 failed to mount on loop0

mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on /.debian failed: Invalid argument

When did you download the image? Maybe your problem is related to this and you try to mount a tar archive? Estel updated the image some days ago, if you downloaded before just untar it before mount.

Code:

tar -xfv ed-squeeze-final.ext3

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by eight (Post 1164647)

When did you download the image? Maybe your problem is related to this and you try to mount a tar archive? Estel updated the image some days ago, if you downloaded before just untar it before mount.

Code:

tar -xfv ed-squeeze-final.ext3

Thanks, but that's not the case as the image was working before changing the swap options. Now I have rebooted (swap again in eMMC) and yet the same error. It seems that image is corrupted.

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

is it possible to extract all the files from the .ext3 image to a partition (without mounting and copying the files from the mounted folder because this will also copy the /home/user and /home/user/mydocs folders)?

i would like to extract it to an ext4 partition i made for it on the sd.

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Estel: Did you upload your configuration files for your image to anywhere else?

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Quote:

Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1159430)

1. Mount (empty) dedicated partition that You've just created
2. Mount Your ED image (mount -o loop /path/to/ed-squeeze-final.ext3 /path/to/mountpoint)
3. cp -a /path/to/image/file/mountpoint/* /path/to/partition/mountpoint/
4. Edit /home/user/.chroot, to make it point into Your partition, instead of image file (for example, /dev/mmcblk0p4, if Your dedicated ED partition is 4th on eMMC).

Sorry for bothering, but, I'm with a problem:

Code:

~$ debian-lxde 

Starting Debian echo "chroot is now open!"

Chroot dir specified: /.debian

/dev/mmcblk0p5 specified in ~/.chroot

Mounting...

using device: /dev/mmcblk0p5

Using ext3 file system

mounting device: /dev/mmcblk0p5

.

..

...

....

Updating the /etc/mtab file...

Everything set up, running chroot...

chroot is now open!

Starting Debian /usr/bin/Xephyr :1 -screen 800x480 -br -ac

Chroot dir specified: /.debian

/dev/mmcblk0p5 specified in ~/.chroot

/.debian has a qmount already!

/dev/mmcblk0p5 already mounted on /.debian...

Everything set up, running chroot...

/usr/bin/Xephyr: error while loading shared libraries: libX11.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

What am I doing wrong? The img file works just ok...

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Ok, I believe I have a bug report:

1)Every time I reboot, the only way to be able to mount by "loop" is first running sudo debian. I don't know why;

2)The only way to run debian-lxde is by first mounting the partition (in my case, mmcblk0p5) to /.debian;

Now I just need to mount using event.d files to be able to run lxde (so I don't need to manually mount every time I run lxde), so, at least for now this works for me.

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Sorry for late reply, I've just gone through through 2,5 weeks of posting. I'll filter out and publish /home/user config files ASAP, then, I'll create new image containing required config files and replace old one with it.

/Estel

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

I just tested a Debian Wheezy chroot in armhf. In principle it works but there are some odd things that I don't understand.
To check whether there is any performance gain I ran nbench. For reference I first did this in in an armel chroot. The result is as follows:

Code:

\h:\w$ ./nbench



BYTEmark* Native Mode Benchmark ver. 2 (10/95)

Index-split by Andrew D. Balsa (11/97)

Linux/Unix* port by Uwe F. Mayer (12/96,11/97)



TEST                : Iterations/sec.  : Old Index   : New Index

                    :                  : Pentium 90* : AMD K6/233*

--------------------:------------------:-------------:------------

NUMERIC SORT        :          311.04  :       7.98  :       2.62

STRING SORT         :          48.123  :      21.50  :       3.33

BITFIELD            :      1.4078e+08  :      24.15  :       5.04

FP EMULATION        :          94.282  :      45.24  :      10.44

FOURIER             :           355.5  :       0.40  :       0.23

ASSIGNMENT          :          5.8009  :      22.07  :       5.73

IDEA                :          771.67  :      11.80  :       3.50

HUFFMAN             :          517.72  :      14.36  :       4.58

NEURAL NET          :         0.52156  :       0.84  :       0.35

LU DECOMPOSITION    :          16.355  :       0.85  :       0.61

==========================ORIGINAL BYTEMARK RESULTS==========================

INTEGER INDEX       : 18.351

FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 0.660

Baseline (MSDOS*)   : Pentium* 90, 256 KB L2-cache, Watcom* compiler 10.0

==============================LINUX DATA BELOW===============================

CPU                 : 

L2 Cache            : 

OS                  : Linux 2.6.28.10-power49

C compiler          : gcc version 4.4.5 (Debian 4.4.5-8) 

libc                : libc-2.11.3.so$W5 (Debian 4.4.5-8) 

MEMORY INDEX        : 4.581

INTEGER INDEX       : 4.578

FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 0.366

Baseline (LINUX)    : AMD K6/233*, 512 KB L2-cache, gcc 2.7.2.3, libc-5.4.38

* Trademarks are property of their respective holder

Then I did the same in the armhf chroot:

Code:

\h:\w$ ./nbench



BYTEmark* Native Mode Benchmark ver. 2 (10/95)

Index-split by Andrew D. Balsa (11/97)

Linux/Unix* port by Uwe F. Mayer (12/96,11/97)



TEST                : Iterations/sec.  : Old Index   : New Index

                    :                  : Pentium 90* : AMD K6/233*

--------------------:------------------:-------------:------------

NUMERIC SORT        :          365.68  :       9.38  :       3.08

STRING SORT         :          47.982  :      21.44  :       3.32

BITFIELD            :      1.6907e+08  :      29.00  :       6.06

FP EMULATION        :          51.779  :      24.85  :       5.73

FOURIER             :          1512.4  :       1.72  :       0.97

ASSIGNMENT          :          6.0761  :      23.12  :       6.00

Illegal instruction

The first thing you'll notice is the "illegal instruction" error. I repeated the test maybe a dozen times and the error did not always occur at the same point. Mostly it happened after the STRING SORT (never before) or BITFIELD test but there was no pattern that seemed to make sense. The above run that even completed the ASSIGNMENT test was the very first try. Each of the following runs failed one test earlier until the 5th one failed after the STRING SORT test. After that the pattern was completely random. Because there is no pattern I believe the reason is not Maemo or the N900 being armhf incompatible but some strange effect of other Maemo kernel settings or programs similar to the watchdog.
Does this make sense to anybody? I'm running KP49 without DSP profile and without CSSU btw.

The second thing you'll notice is that the result of the armhf FOURIER test is more than 4 times as high as the one of the armel test which in theory should come in handy in multimedia related tasks. On the other hand the FP EMULATION test dropped by 45%. Does anybody have an idea why the FP EMULATION result changed or does someone know the practical implications of that change?

To get more practical results I made a video decoding benchmark with mplayer and youtube's 240p version of the big buck bunny video:

armel:

Code:

\h:\w$ mplayer -benchmark -nosound -vo null /root/bbb.flv

MPlayer 1.0rc3-4.4.4 (C) 2000-2009 MPlayer Team

mplayer: could not connect to socket

mplayer: No such file or directory

Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control.



Playing /root/bbb.flv.

libavformat file format detected.

[lavf] Video stream found, -vid 0

[lavf] Audio stream found, -aid 1

VIDEO:  [FLV1]  400x226  0bpp  24.000 fps  256.8 kbps (31.3 kbyte/s)

==========================================================================

Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family

Selected video codec: [ffflv] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg Flash video)

==========================================================================

Audio: no sound

Starting playback...

VDec: vo config request - 400 x 226 (preferred colorspace: Planar YV12)

VDec: using Planar YV12 as output csp (no 0)

Movie-Aspect is undefined - no prescaling applied.

VO: [null] 400x226 => 400x226 Planar YV12 

V: 596.4   0/  0  5%  0%  0.0% 0 0 



BENCHMARKs: VC:  31.237s VO:   0.117s A:   0.000s Sys:  16.393s =   47.748s

BENCHMARK%: VC: 65.4215% VO:  0.2452% A:  0.0000% Sys: 34.3334% = 100.0000%



Exiting... (End of file)

armhf:

Code:

\h:\w$ mplayer -benchmark -nosound -vo null /root/bbb.flv

MPlayer svn r34540 (Debian), built with gcc-4.6 (C) 2000-2012 MPlayer Team

mplayer: could not connect to socket

mplayer: No such file or directory

Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control.



Playing /root/bbb.flv.

libavformat version 53.20.0 (external)

Mismatching header version 53.19.0

libavformat file format detected.

[flv @ 0x40a06b10]Estimating duration from bitrate, this may be inaccurate

[lavf] stream 0: video (flv), -vid 0

[lavf] stream 1: audio (mp3), -aid 0

VIDEO:  [FLV1]  400x226  0bpp  24.000 fps  256.8 kbps (31.3 kbyte/s)

Clip info:

 starttime: 0

 totalduration: 596

 totaldatarate: 317

 bytelength: 23668451

 canseekontime: true

 sourcedata: BADC20661MH1320360564963154

 purl: 

 pmsg: 

Load subtitles in /root/

==========================================================================

Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family

libavcodec version 53.34.0 (external)

Mismatching header version 53.32.2

Selected video codec: [ffflv] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg Flash video)

==========================================================================

Audio: no sound

Starting playback...

Movie-Aspect is undefined - no prescaling applied.

VO: [null] 400x226 => 400x226 Planar YV12 

V: 596.4   0/  0  5%  0%  0.0% 0 0 





BENCHMARKs: VC:  32.116s VO:   0.116s A:   0.000s Sys:  15.791s =   48.023s

BENCHMARK%: VC: 66.8774% VO:  0.2411% A:  0.0000% Sys: 32.8815% = 100.0000%



Exiting... (End of file)

As you can se there is virtually no difference, which I don't understand either. Obviously it works in armhf at all, so the nbench "illegal instruction" error doesn't affect mplayer. On the other hand I'd expect either a noticeable increase due to the better FOURIER test results or a decrease due to the worse FP EMULATION results, depending on how mplayer decodes the video. But the result suggests that there aren't any FP operations involved at all. Is that normal for this codec?

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

@sulu,

I'm no expert, but the only difference between armhf vs armel (or rather, hardfp vs softfp) is in the use of FP registers as a calling convention (as opposed to using the stack).

Both hardfp and softfp will use the floating point unit in exactly the same way.

So, if most of the work done by mplayer is done within a single function (perhaps with other functions inlined), you should see no difference.

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Frankly I'm no expert either.

Quote:

Originally Posted by reinob (Post 1174520)

the only difference between armhf vs armel (or rather, hardfp vs softfp) is in the use of FP registers as a calling convention (as opposed to using the stack).

Are you sure about that?
If I read [1] correctly then there are ARM devices out there that have no FPU at all and armel works on them. So this either means that armel doesn't use the FPU at all (and instead emulates FP operations using integer functions) or can detect if there is a FPU and make use of it. As I understand it the latter would require quite some overhead during runtime which makes me believe the former is true.
Under this assumption my understanding was that armhf requires an FPU which will then run FP operations much faster than armel using its integer emulation. This might also explain armhf's poor FP EMULATION test result since it simply wouldn't need to be optimized for that.
Anybody, please correct me if I'm wrong!

[1] http://wiki.debian.org/ArmHardFloatPort#Rationale

btw: As you can see I ran the armel test under Squeeze and the armhf test under Wheezy. I will repeat the armel test under Wheezy to see if the "illegal instruction" error is architecture or release related.

Edit:
I'd welcome any suggestion for a real world FP benchmark! I guess some of the (de)compression algorithms of different archive types make heavy use if it. But I don't have the knowledge which one would be suitable.

Re: Help me please

Quote:

Originally Posted by rebhana (Post 585903)

I didn't have any need for sound in Easy Debian so far - Maemo satisfies all my needs there - but just out of curiosity: should the Music Player in LXDE with the one title "Lament ..." work out of the box? It doesn't for me. Also youtube videos don't play sound in iceweasel during the short intervals the videos are played at all. I'm just wondering whether I broke something by installing a lot of additional (and actually useful) stuff.

LXDE with the one title "Lament ..."
Does anybody know which that song is ?...
Please Help me...
I really need that Song..:(

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

I repeated nbench under Wheezy armel which worked fine.
Then I tried it under armhf again but changed the compiler to build nbench. First I tried with gcc-4.4 which resulted in a segmentation fault after the FP EMULATION test instead of gcc-4.6's Illegal instruction.
Then I tried nbench compiled with gcc-4.5 which even completed the IDEA test but then rebooted the phone. So it seems something is terribly unstable here. Either it's the compiler under armhf or some component in the underlying FP hardware/Maemo software.
Can somebody who has any other armhf-compatible device please try if nbench completes reliably if compiled with any of Debian Wheezy's armhf gccs?

Just for completeness, this is the gcc-4.5 result as far as it worked:

Code:

\h:\w$ ./nbench



BYTEmark* Native Mode Benchmark ver. 2 (10/95)

Index-split by Andrew D. Balsa (11/97)

Linux/Unix* port by Uwe F. Mayer (12/96,11/97)



TEST                : Iterations/sec.  : Old Index   : New Index

                    :                  : Pentium 90* : AMD K6/233*

--------------------:------------------:-------------:------------

NUMERIC SORT        :          415.04  :      10.64  :       3.50

STRING SORT         :           45.57  :      20.36  :       3.15

BITFIELD            :      1.1854e+08  :      20.33  :       4.25

FP EMULATION        :          51.798  :      24.86  :       5.74

FOURIER             :          1461.6  :       1.66  :       0.93

ASSIGNMENT          :          5.8777  :      22.37  :       5.80

IDEA                :          1206.9  :      18.46  :       5.48

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Estel, did you already upload your new image with the files from /home/user/ ?

My ED image got corrupted so I am forced to download a new image ;) Then I started wondering if you had fixed your image

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Unfortunately, not yet. Sorry, have been quite occupied lately. BTW, after doing so, I'll "announce" it here for sure.

/Estel

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Hello!

I am trying Easy Debian right now, and I am not able to perform apt-get update. It look good at the begining, but then:

Err htp://packages.tspre.org lenny/main Packages
504 Gateway Timeout
Err htp://packages.tspre.org lenny/non-free Packages
504 Gateway Timeout
Err htp://packages.tspre.org lenny/contrib Packages
504 Gateway Timeout
Fetched 808kB in 1min 10s (11.5kB/s)
W: Failed to fetch htp://packages.tspre.org/dists/lenny/main/binary-armel/Packages.gz 504 Gateway Timeout

W: Failed to fetch htp://packages.tspre.org/dists/lenny/non-free/binary-armel/Packages.gz 504 Gateway Timeout

W: Failed to fetch htp://packages.tspre.org/dists/lenny/contrib/binary-armel/Packages.gz 504 Gateway Timeout

E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[root@m5v3e: /]

Is there something wrong?
PS: I have to do s/http/htp/ because of rules of this forum.

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

@rhadesan:
You're right, the server is down.
Just deactivate that entry in your sources.list by prepending: #

It's quite a long time since I checked but afair there are no critical packages coming from this repository. It's safe not to use it.

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

Estel and sulu:

Could either of you please send me your LXDE config files from your home directory?

I really don't think I should leave your images as part of my installer with the current config problems.

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

I just started to make my own image based on estels but is there really something wrong? I mean, what's missing besides LXDE config? I think it's quite stable and not much to edit?

I just wanted these files for completeness sake, without knowing what exactly was missing...

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

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Originally Posted by qole (Post 1188581)

I'm not quite sure which of the files in my .config directory are from Easy Debian and which are from Maemo applications. Therefore I included everything that I think might be from ED. If something is missing nevertheless please tell me!

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Thanks sulu, it's shame on me, but accidentally, I've unsubscripted from this thread :o Thus, totally forget about leaving image incomplete, without config files.

/Estel

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Hi, is there any way to install ff11 (iceweasel 11) on ED? I tried adding experimental repos but it gave me broken dependencies, something about gtk. I also tried to extract the deb to a folder and run the binary but that didnt work either

Re: Easy Debian Fremantle Beta Testing

1. You can try to download missing dependencies one by one, and see, if - at the end - You get something usable, thus, creating another releases mix, that we've just avoided ;)

2. You can wait for new stable release, and try to dist-upgrade it, then - after that - fix all conflicts, just like Sulu di. (and, in very small addition, I).

Is Iceweasel 11 with it's great slowness worth that? Answer Yourself ;)

/Estel

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I'ts just that I am a web developer and I want to be able to show off my work on my phone, and as firefox is my dev browser, most possibly I can show off work in progress. 3.5 is slowly becoming tooo old. On the other hand I think that after 3.6 they've improved a bit in terms of speed.