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Dave999 2013-02-17 10:43

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
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Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1323232)
Wait! What? This isn't the countdown thread! I'm so confused!!

No need to be confused! No countdown here. Just some SDK joy.

jalyst 2013-02-19 20:03

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
So much for the hope that anssi vanjoki (apologies if spelling's wrong) might embrace Sailfish for Vertu:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/30/v...-rm-828v-leak/
Then again, I guess it's still very early days, it could always become part of the portfolio much later...

Dave999 2013-02-19 21:31

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
You are always two weeks behind :D

This is uber expensive phones. Just ridicules to think they will go down the road with a basic new OS. Without a SDK, real demo or anything else to give the deluxe look and feel. At the same time it would make sense, since I can't get how someone can pay that much for a android device so luckily for Jolla. Anything can happen. Strange world :D

jalyst 2013-02-19 23:57

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I knew about it when the story 1st came out, I just didn't have a chance to share it until now.

Dave999 2013-02-20 22:16

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Metal or plastic from jolla? What do you think of jollas first disc phone. Is it possible that it is a see through device changing color related to ambiance? That is the type of questions we need to get an answer for as soon AP.

jalyst 2013-02-21 06:47

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Get some more of that acid into you, you know you want to... ;)

Dave999 2013-02-21 13:16

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
the acid makes be stay two weeks ahead of you in terms of knowledge :D

jalyst 2013-02-21 19:37

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http://arstechnica.com/information-t...hones-tablets/

Dave999 2013-02-21 19:43

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1324311)

Yes, love it. Where is Jolla? This is what jolla should do for the n9 or n900.

Ubuntu is great even if a few apps only are images atm :D

flotron 2013-02-21 20:43

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http://imageshack.us/a/img198/6541/t...oryofnokia.png

jalyst 2013-02-22 04:20

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1324313)
Yes, love it. Where is Jolla? This is what jolla should do for the n9 or n900.

Ubuntu is great even if a few apps only are images atm :D

So you made an effort to read the story & the thread, amazing.... ;)
That means you'd know that it's actually very nascent, & seems to be less progressed than Sailfish would be by now.
Still, it sux that the Sailfish_Alliance isn't taking a similar broad dev community approach, leveraging the Android community & not just some tinier ones.
Maybe we'll hear more about how they intend to address that (or not) soon, fingers crossed...

Dave999 2013-02-22 06:31

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
No, did not read it. I simply look at the pictures. I had already tried and posted the info in correct thread so I didn't need to read your post to know what it was about ;)

Your post was way to long for me, plus it was old news ;)

ggabriel 2013-02-22 11:07

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Did you guys see this? http://jollatides.com/2013/02/20/hon...-jolla-future/

Jolla, as we know, is going to use China as the primary market... westerners will have to wait (or learn Cantonese/Mandarin and buy it from somewhere in China).

Luckily, my N9 remains competitive, and will do so for a few more months.

Dave999 2013-02-22 11:29

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Jolla's homeland? Northern Europe last I heard?

Wow, 6,25% for only 1 million? That is cheap. I don't think jolla has anything good to barging with atm. Or this Compony has somthing that is truly crucial for jolla(except money).

Can I buy some shares please.

jalyst 2013-02-22 12:43

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1324384)
<SNIP>Your post was way to long for me<SNIP> ;)

That's too bad, I was hoping that maybe your gnat-like attention span was morphing into something more substantial ;)

jalyst 2013-02-22 12:46

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
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Originally Posted by ggabriel (Post 1324404)

Yeah saw that the other day, always a good sign when others are willing to invest, probably not worth reading too much into it though I guess, at this early stage.

mikecomputing 2013-02-23 10:36

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
China invest even more in Jolla, and people here thinks YAY FANTASTIC.

Thing is: ****ing EU doesn' invest anything in Jolla (or anything else for that matter) we prefer to sell out everything in desperation.

Soon europe and then US is third world... :(

Dave999 2013-02-23 10:38

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Europe and US are already gone. Moon is the place to be...

Seriously, what's going on with the SDK...

Anyone attending MWC?

erendorn 2013-02-23 11:56

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1324582)
China invest even more in Jolla, and people here thinks YAY FANTASTIC.

Thing is: ****ing EU doesn' invest anything in Jolla (or anything else for that matter) we prefer to sell out everything in desperation.

Soon europe and then US is third world... :(

These are private investments...

ggabriel 2013-02-23 13:09

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1324582)
China invest even more in Jolla, and people here thinks YAY FANTASTIC.

Thing is: ****ing EU doesn' invest anything in Jolla (or anything else for that matter) we prefer to sell out everything in desperation.

Soon europe and then US is third world... :(

I don't know how being 1st or 3rd world has anything to do with how much money a company from either "world" invests onto a company of the other "world". You'll find out there many countries that are considered "3rd world" where there is a lot of money circulating among a few individuals. Just saying.

Having said that, and liking what Jolla is doing, I appreciate the fact that they've got more cash, which can in turn be used wisely to get a good product out and potentially be successful, hence -eventually- getting a product to the rest of the world. I'm being optimistic, I know.

gerbick 2013-02-23 16:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1324582)
China invest even more in Jolla, and people here thinks YAY FANTASTIC.

Well... that's better than China stealing your IP and manufacturing a 30 dollar knockoff of your smartphone that has an old-school grey/black LCD screen and calls it your exact model/make name.

Investing from China is a good thing, for the company. But not... well, as you stated, not for the EU and other places directly. Indirectly, it grants Jolla a foundation and they can spread into other places easier. Go where the buyers are - and the EU/US are all about iOS and Android at the moment.

Even BlackBerry has had to curb their sales expectations by 83% due to lack of interest and sales and they were pretty moderate to begin with, imho.

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Thing is: ****ing EU doesn' invest anything in Jolla (or anything else for that matter) we prefer to sell out everything in desperation.
Sounds like how in the US, if there are no overnight queues for a product (read: people in line overnight) then it is a failure.

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Soon europe and then US is third world... :(
Not yet - America will be there sooner than the EU. But it'll be just that our markets due to quickly becoming one of two cultures makes it harder for good products to make headway into mindshare and sales as long as people remain loyal to their monoculture.

I'm not a fan of what's going on. But it's happening regardless it seems. So that's the consequence - we're starting to get things second or third.

Let's hope that Jolla takes those investments and actually do what the other companies have not - learn from their mistakes, become more savvy and treat each market as it wants to be treated as opposed to some widely applied tactic that rarely works if your name isn't Coca Cola or (sadly) Apple.

Dave999 2013-02-23 16:43

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Very long post.

Welcome back gerbick

nodevel 2013-02-25 17:10

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
The SDK is finally out along with some interesting details about the UI.
The first thing is closing an app by swiping from top of the screen (as mentioned in another thread), the second one is an event screen like in Harmattan, accessible by swiping from the bottom everywhere (or more edges on the home screens).

This is good news, I guess, I'm just not sure about the gestures (being used to webOS' swipe to show running apps), but it might be the best option possible.

(fyi I'm posting in this thread, because this is neither about the SDK nor about Concerns/Criticisms, Videos, etc...)

kollin 2013-02-25 19:14

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Got Linux?
Hit Download to get started with the SDK. Windows and Mac OS X users, stay tuned.
Ahahaa, i like this ! :cool:

tiempjuuh 2013-02-25 19:22

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Aaaand jolla.com is down. Obviously nobody knows you've to go to www.sailfish.org -.-

Or some people (*cough*Elop*cough*) are ddos'ing Jolla :p

jalyst 2013-02-25 19:28

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
sailfishos.org, sadly someone already owns sailfish.org, just looks like a personal site, hopefully Jolla will eventually convince them to relinquish it.

kollin 2013-02-25 19:31

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
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Originally Posted by tiempjuuh (Post 1325139)
Aaaand jolla.com is down....

Hmm, it works for me.May be something is going on with the DNS servers ;)

Dave999 2013-02-25 19:34

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
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Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1325146)
sailfishos.org, sadly someone already owns sailfish.org, just looks like a personal site, hopefully Jolla will eventually convince them to relinquish it.

Someone just hacked sailfish :( :D

Jolla.com down again.

ggabriel 2013-02-25 19:35

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Setting it up and running the demo app actually works, unlike Mer, or maybe I was unlucky when I did it. Nice. I actually came here first to see what Dave999 had to say :D

Dave999 2013-02-25 19:38

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Excellent, my posts are so nice so you will read them twice!

tiempjuuh 2013-02-25 20:11

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Stil get an error... Well, no jolla.com today ;)

Dave999 2013-02-25 20:13

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
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Originally Posted by tiempjuuh (Post 1325163)
Stil get an error... Well, no jolla.com today ;)

I just fixed the error. Working great now!

tiempjuuh 2013-02-26 06:18

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
I see. Thanks for that Dave :p

kollin 2013-02-26 23:19

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http://youtu.be/Nn_W85e9KVI

Sailfish Running on the ExoPC – Merproject :D

specc 2013-03-01 17:55

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
This reminds me of Jolla trying to make a phone:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=...ture=endscreen

mikecomputing 2013-03-01 21:58

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kollin (Post 1325542)
http://youtu.be/Nn_W85e9KVI

Sailfish Running on the ExoPC – Merproject :D

It depends on IRC thay said it runs on the emulator/vm. so not natively there is no rootimage.

IMHO they should atleast release silica source ASAP so we can test the silica API:s on nokia N9 the same way as we could test qt-component API on N900.

But I guess we have to wait some month or so. BUT If they not release the silica on GIThub(or similar) ASAP they will fail. Because if we have to wait for real devices upto a year before we can start test apps, they WILL loose developers.

Emulator is WAY better than Harmattan/webos was, but still we need some kind of device because testing swipe, touch etc... in a emulator is pain in the *** especially on non touch PC:s.

Also the VM:s takes resources you atleast need a DualCore and 3gen Intel or similar. This is not to be nagative because Eclipse+Android is more bloated and takes even more resources if we compare them ;)

kollin 2013-03-02 08:33

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1326288)
It depends on IRC thay said it runs on the emulator/vm. so not natively there is no rootimage.

IMHO they should atleast release silica source ASAP so we can test the silica API:s on nokia N9 the same way as we could test qt-component API on N900.

But I guess we have to wait some month or so. BUT If they not release the silica on GIThub(or similar) ASAP they will fail. Because if we have to wait for real devices upto a year before we can start test apps, they WILL loose developers.

Emulator is WAY better than Harmattan/webos was, but still we need some kind of device because testing swipe, touch etc... in a emulator is pain in the *** especially on non touch PC:s.

Also the VM:s takes resources you atleast need a DualCore and 3gen Intel or similar. This is not to be nagative because Eclipse+Android is more bloated and takes even more resources if we compare them ;)


I can't wait... :D

Dave999 2013-03-03 19:46

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Anyone heard a specific price tag from jolla?

qwazix 2013-03-06 18:05

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1326288)
It depends on IRC thay said it runs on the emulator/vm. so not natively there is no rootimage.

IMHO they should atleast release silica source ASAP so we can test the silica API:s on nokia N9 the same way as we could test qt-component API on N900.

But I guess we have to wait some month or so. BUT If they not release the silica on GIThub(or similar) ASAP they will fail. Because if we have to wait for real devices upto a year before we can start test apps, they WILL loose developers.

Emulator is WAY better than Harmattan/webos was, but still we need some kind of device because testing swipe, touch etc... in a emulator is pain in the *** especially on non touch PC:s.

Also the VM:s takes resources you atleast need a DualCore and 3gen Intel or similar. This is not to be nagative because Eclipse+Android is more bloated and takes even more resources if we compare them ;)

If you want to have a non-virtualized SDK I bet you can, but try to install Maemo 5 sdk on a modern Linux system without the installer and you'll appreciate why they opted to provide a plugnplay VM solution. (not to mention that Maemo 5 and Harmattan SDK's don't live together very well - for me at least)

mikecomputing 2013-03-06 21:31

Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwazix (Post 1327297)
If you want to have a non-virtualized SDK I bet you can, but try to install Maemo 5 sdk on a modern Linux system without the installer and you'll appreciate why they opted to provide a plugnplay VM solution. (not to mention that Maemo 5 and Harmattan SDK's don't live together very well - for me at least)

I dont say VM is wrong, acttally the mer buildserver is great thing because you can have many toolchains etc... But people should now that U have to have a modern PC runing VM.


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