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Thanks for everyone's comments! Has anyone tried taking apps that are stored on their android phone in a titanium back up and installing them? Is there a /system/app directory (or equivalent) on the Jolla phone.

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I only used an apk extractor to run fifa 14 which installs fine but does not run well on my tablet.
See video (in german): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqKOkheKdSM

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I actually *hate* how Jolla calls directly from call log -- there has been many occasion when I finished call and when put phone away accidently touched display and phone start call -- and I don't notice!!!

I beg to implement some "security" button to confirm you really wanna call (sugar on top would be an option to send SMS, add new contact and/or open contact card, just like N9 behave).

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Since the last update there is the option to open the person's details instead of calling them. You can change this under settings->app settings->phone app IIRC.

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Thanks, I was not aware of this *blush* ... Thanks^10

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e: nevermind

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In regards to android apps, has anyone tried an android app that opens in a floating resizable window? One example is "Boat Browser" that allow you to open tabs in a floating window. There are other floating apps for texting and media "stickit "

also check here for apps to try.

http://www.talkandroid.com/guides/be...d-august-2013/

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Any news??

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About what?

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WOW! I feel so stupid. This was driving me crazy and never looked at the settings.

Went to settings and disabled Quick Call and it now works as expected.

Thank you very much.

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The user experience.

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I'll be happy to discus mine when it arrives. Should have it in about two weeks. But I thought you had one. Indeed, don't you have both Jolla phone and Galaxy Note 3 (I think) . How do they compare to you? Can you try my suggestion about testing floating apps? I'd really like to know how or if they work. Thanks!

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Have and use is not the same thing. You can't compare them. I just figured out I need a 5,5 iphone or Ipad. My usecases are not the same as yeaterday . I'm using n9 as my dayly phone this week. its pretty much useless for anything except calling :D

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The worst thing about n9, it's not good as a calling device only! I was thinking about using it for that purpose but the headspeaker is much too quiet and the microphone is way to crappy. Guess I will have to buy 808 after all.

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I have heard about quiet speaker before, but calls in general still work very well for me. Are you sure you don't have a faulty device?

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Mine private Jolla did just the same thing last evening. I had the browser open and suddenly screen went black and it died. I pressed the power button and it started again. When the phone was ready I opened the browser from where I was before and after about three seconds the screen went again black, led lighted up as red and it started reboot loop. I let it run in boot loop for few minutes and then something changed, it started up normally. When it was up again, I decided to shut it down and let the battery have some fresh air. After about two minutes I reassembled the phone and started it.

Has been working flawlessly since then. Did not seem to be too serious. Maybe I should have let it run when it finally exited the boot loop. Might have worked. Well, maybe next time.

I have two Jollas in more or less active use and this is the first time one has been acting up.

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My N9 is covering me whilts i await the latest Jolla update. For some reason I get the connection error in my office and it renders the jolla useless. In the future the N9 will get relegated to being my in car sat nav as I have a proper brodit powered car mount for it. (plus it has traffic and offline maps).

Switching from the Jolla makes you realise just how laggy the N9 is now. I expect we shall see the latest Jolla update tomorrow or Friday and hope the key issues are cleared with that as I miss it.

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Anyone knows how to manually tweak the dimming of an ambiance?

Personally I really hate it and don't like it. Only the lockscreen show my background as it should be, but since that screen is pretty useless as it is I never get to see my background bright in my Jolla.

I digged around but the best information about ambiances I found were:

http://www.jollausers.com/2013/12/ho...ailfish-bonus/

https://together.jolla.com/question/...wto-ambiences/

But neither of these talks anything about how to tone down the darkening of the picture ones you scroll down.

Anyone, or is it only me who is hating this feature? BTW I think that this even got more aggressive with the latest update

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I completely agree. It was kinda annoying before, and now it's even worse.

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I agree, I would've preferred my background picture/ambience to be seen everywhere I navigate, 'to make the phone my own'... Now it's just black everywhere except the lock screen and maybe events screen, which has a blurred picture instead.

... Kind of defeats the purpose of highly personalized ambiences IMO.

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In my opinion the higher contrast they introduced now with this update serves the purpose to be able to navigate the phone better even when used outside in sunlight.
But I agree it would be nice to have a setting where the opacity of the dark gradient on the home screens (from top to bottom) could be set manually.

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Yeah, https://together.jolla.com/question/...t-on-ambience/
Would be so nice, like also these haha https://together.jolla.com/question/...s-in-one-post/

But Jolla is now sticked to the windows phone "mentality", meaning, no-options-for-users-to-modify-stuff, until OS has matured enough.

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HI. Just wondering. Is the multitasking with android apps on jolla phone better than that on the android phone. Android phones are famous (or better, infamous) for killing apps that are minimized or closed from main screen (but not killed) depending on activity of phone. When you close an android app on Jolla phone does it occupy the grid of running apps? Thanks.

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Some very goods news coming from Jolla. Seems like they are going to sell hundreds of thousands phones this spring and summer. Thanks to the out of beta status of Sailfish and the increased demand.
New partnerships being announced in the coming weeks.

http://www.kauppalehti.fi/etusivu/jo...a/201403661142
http://wpsailors.com/2014/03/20/joll...ng-and-summer/

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I know stuff moves around quickly on the internet but how can demand ("jumped quite a bit" ) become much greater after an update that took place yesterday? Just askin'...

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On the original article it says that the sales jumped after Ohijärvi.

I'm a bit dubious about that as well. I can't imagine Ohijärvi having too big of a influence on direct sales. At best this could mean that the statement is linked to those partnerships, that would be some major operators or retailers and Jolla finally selling the phone in China.

Actually outside of that I can't understand how the demand could increase so much in the coming months.

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My understanding is that Android "multitasking" will work just as on any Android phone, that is, Android will continue to multitask whatever is coded as a service, but if you run a loop on a terminal within Android, that won't multitask, unless the terminal is hacked in such a way that is, well, not a terminal any more :-P

In addition, Android can only render one application at a time, so don't expect a lot of them to be shown in Sailfish's multitasking screen. It has been requested to modify this behaviour in the ACL, but it has also been challenged as there is no point in wasting effort to improve Android's compatibility when you can use it to improve Sailfish itself.

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First of all, thanks for translating, that's always appreciated.

I don't get the sales jump either, but then again Jolla has been quiet about real numbers... all we saw were rough estimations based on application downloads, order numbers and so on.

What I understand is: they allegedly aren't taking more orders, but is that true? You can still order a phone online, so go figure... maybe they mean that they can't take new orders in big batches (e.g., Vodafone ES wants 10k devices to sell).

Also, it curious that DNA is allgedly lowering the price of the device - not too worrying as more people can afford it, but what is the real situation?

I guess that we'll just have to wonder, as private companies can keep all these details private :-) I still want the best for them and to remain relatively small for a couple more years (read: don't hire another Elop).

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This is a first time I heard about this.

If that lower price is their current 389€, from original 399€, I would not be worried about that. Verkkokauppa.com started selling Jolla for 389 right from the first day. Selling the phone below 10 euros below the suggested price is kind of their thing. So they would be just matching that price.

Toll sell that many phones, there must be some big partnership(s) being brewed. Hopefully this time they will also be realized, rather than just announced.

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Gee... I must have gotten a good price. My friend ordered mine in Switzerland.

Subtotal €321.77
Shipping & Handling €12.10
Discount (FOSDEM2014) -€40.00
Tax 0
Grand Total €293.87


Only problem is that it is still in Switzerland! (till April 14...)

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No, that's because you don't pay Finnish VAT - they should charge that in Switzerland, if they notice ;-)

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Can't find the source, but I saw a picture with the phone at 299€ at some point in the past - maybe it was a display phone, which would make sense.

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The article actually refers to 'Sailfish 1.0' as presented at MWC in Barcelona, so in that sense there has been a couple of weeks to wake up the interests.

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I had not bought my Jolla yet, because they say that they can't discount me the VAT so I can pay it in Spain, as Intracomunitarian laws (for business, not individuals) say. Also there isn't spanish qwerty keyboard yet... I'm waiting with my N900 :) I hope it arrive to some european distributors... After some mounts of first launch a depreciation is logic...

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It all just smells like an attempt to beat things up in the media again, they have plenty of form doing that, & gotten burnt just about every time (eventually) for doing so.
Lets see if it's more than hot air, I'm sick of hot air, I want to see quite big announcements, not continued hints of big announcements, or announcements that aren't "big".

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I suspect that it is all related to the 'non-beta' 1.0.4.20 release. And indeed was the driver for it.

I'd suspect that various potential partners had said that they clearly could not go forward with a beta OS (since the mass market is unlikely to warmly welcome such a thing), and so stipulated that any future partnerships depended on the OS being out of beta.

So Jolla take Sailfish out of beta, everyone is happy, and they announce some imminent partnership announcements ...

Trouble is that simply saying that Sailfish is no longer beta doesn't quite cut it; it's a semantic trick. Don't get me wrong. Ohijärvi is a great release. Does a lot of good things under the cover and they've clearly been working very hard. But it still doesn't seem quite ready for the mainstream, and I can't help thinking that potential partners (who, let us remember, are not the bleeding edge fans that seem to make up the predominant Jolla user base) are going to be able to see that and, unlike those fans, will be unwilling to make allowances.

I really hope I'm wrong, though.

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If there are partnership to come, they probably have access as well to a roadmap.
Partners are not foolish, if they sign, it is because they expect to sell phones. And they are testing the phone before signing anything!
So I would not worry but be glad instead :)
Either partners are happy of the current version or at least happy enough with the roadmap at sight.

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But this is the whole point. So far they haven't. And all we have is an announcement of an announcement. And, as jalyst pointed out earlier, we've seen claims about potential partnerships in the past, which then turned out to be nothing.

I hope it is different this time.

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Thank you for the clarification. As I do not speak Finnish I am at a bit of a disadvantage. But, my impressions is that a reasonable translation is:

Eh man, Everythin's cool. Like, beta's history.
Bin inkin' deals. Probably got over 100K in the can.
So, everybody chill.

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The battery life has really started to annoy me. It about halved after Ohijärvi update, and now I have to recharge it after work if Im gonna have a long evening.Yeah, its roughly same as other smartphones, but excellent battery life was one of the unique traits of Jolla...