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mikecomputing 2013-04-22 17:41
Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1337978)
Send it to Marc. Elop have time to answer mails... So why not see if the CEO have more time for customers than devs
Because Elop is MARKETING person.
Developers are hard workers.

Thats a big difference!

And btw Elop has secretary. Dont be naive think HE is answer your questions.

mikecomputing 2013-04-22 17:42
Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Whats this about? :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GKY3ON8huM

jalyst 2013-04-22 18:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nokiabot (Post 1337950)
S*it not that ...i expressed the feelings wrong just go through the poem well and u will get it we both made mistake about the vegetable love and world(time) my lack of understanding n yours excellent trolling capabilites poured out a pageful of s*hit:o
btw the avove thread is purely platonic love if u need help no need for tha said app.
So should i pay a visit if u r not a coy and eperince pure vegetable love:D

:)
Daf4ck? And again here & here O_o

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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1337954)
Can you please included the word jolla in one of your two poems above?
I have to admit dave, you had me in stitches (laughing heavily) with that response, I am tired though.

jalyst 2013-04-22 18:16
Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1337973)
Maybe we can ask OTHER of the community people also at jolla. I mean if all people ask stkeeps I could understand he has no time over for stuff that REALLY is more important.

Btw there are around five more people on the homepage to ask and AFAIK Jukka also has answered some of the questions posted at facebook/twitter etc... from me and others.

https://sailfishos.org//community.html
I've spoke to Carsten & made my peace with him, he was offended by some comments of mine (& others), & so decided not to help any more. He has said though, that he'll try to continue the initiative via someone else, if they decide they're happy to do so. It may turn out that it's no longer needed at all, because a better User/Dev <--> Sailfish(Jolla) interface is coming, I'll need to speak to that person 1st though.

Dave999 2013-04-22 18:35
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So he was a fended by a few and so he decided to ignore the whole TMO community? not judging it just a question. I'm not saying Carstens should help us with this. But it's pretty poor not to help the majority becouse of criticism from a few.

It's pretty hard to be a leading dev, project leader / manager. You never get the appreciation you deserve. Just deal with it :)

danramos 2013-04-23 07:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1338008)
I've spoke to Carsten & made my peace with him, he was offended by some comments of mine (& others), & so decided not to help any more. He has said though, that he'll try to continue the initiative via someone else, if they decide they're happy to do so. It may turn out that it's no longer needed at all, because a better User/Dev <--> Sailfish(Jolla) interface is coming, I'll need to speak to that person 1st though.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1338020)
So he was a fended by a few and so he decided to ignore the whole TMO community? not judging it just a question. I'm not saying Carstens should help us with this. But it's pretty poor not to help the majority becouse of criticism from a few.

It's pretty hard to be a leading dev, project leader / manager. You never get the appreciation you deserve. Just deal with it :)
Good. My opinion is that they would do far better to replace him with someone who can interact with the public and make them feel excited and welcomed. If it means he can concentrate on his talents while someone else takes up the communications efforts, I think it was a fairly good maneuver on his part. Not everyone can maintain a friendly rapport with the communities and they should EXPECT it to be thankless but an expert communicator can accelerate things far, far more than technical expertise alone and that in itself can be gratifying to someone who is good.

Dave999 2013-04-23 13:13
Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Well, after scrum comes developer anarchy. Fire all staff except developers. Working great!

Jolla might try that. However, they are possibly missing one or two ingredients devs so far.

mikecomputing 2013-04-23 15:46
Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1338157)
Good. My opinion is that they would do far better to replace him with someone who can interact with the public and make them feel excited and welcomed. If it means he can concentrate on his talents while someone else takes up the communications efforts, I think it was a fairly good maneuver on his part. Not everyone can maintain a friendly rapport with the communities and they should EXPECT it to be thankless but an expert communicator can accelerate things far, far more than technical expertise alone and that in itself can be gratifying to someone who is good.
Or TMO people should stop cry like children when they don't get responds imediate... Remember there is two sides of everything...

Dave999 2013-04-23 16:04
Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Well, jolla don't looking for customers, customers have to look for jolla. It's not the best buissniss model. Let's se where it takes them...

Dave999 2013-04-23 21:12
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When will we see how sailfish running android application. Marc talked about three ecosystem for jolla. Android, html5 and Qt. Will android work flawlessly?

gerbick 2013-04-24 04:13
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If I were Jolla, I would take this entire thread as indicative of the loud minority that no matter what will never be fully happy with your product...

That is if I were a cynical, heartless bastard that figures that marketing is a limited, finite resource with only so many targets that you can hit.

danramos 2013-04-24 11:45
Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1338392)
If I were Jolla, I would take this entire thread as indicative of the loud minority that no matter what will never be fully happy with your product...

That is if I were a cynical, heartless bastard that figures that marketing is a limited, finite resource with only so many targets that you can hit.
Once again wishing that there was a THANK button here.

Dave999 2013-04-24 12:12
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The Following User Says Thank You to gerbick For This Useful Post: danramos


Yes, feel free to quote me.

danramos 2013-04-25 07:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1338475)
The Following User Says Thank You to gerbick For This Useful Post: danramos


Yes, feel free to quote me.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...complished.jpg

Dave999 2013-04-25 20:02
Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
That makes me think what Bush Jr would say if he was in this thread and shared his thought about jolla and sailfish.

danramos 2013-04-26 01:22
Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1338946)
That makes me think what Bush Jr would say if he was in this thread and shared his thought about jolla and sailfish.
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/3365940736/h5135BCE7/

Dave999 2013-04-26 04:17
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hahaha.

i concur!

don_falcone 2013-04-30 07:30
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Seriously Dan, if you would like to post more of those images, i would come back more often. ;)

danramos 2013-04-30 07:42
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Originally Posted by don_falcone (Post 1340058)
Seriously Dan, if you would like to post more of those images, i would come back more often. ;)
http://funnyfilez.funnypart.com/pict...bush_o_rly.jpg
What kind of images do you mean? :)

stickymick 2013-04-30 08:28
Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
More importantly, with Jolla giving May 10th as the day to look forward to, they need to look at an advertising campaign.

I propose a virtual Eduard Khil singing "Jollalollalol lollalol lollalol" while using an iPhone as a shaver (with the iShave app), spreading butter on his toast with a Lumia 920 and using his Samsung Mega as a set of bathroom scales.

Dave999 2013-04-30 09:53
Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by stickymick (Post 1340068)
More importantly, with Jolla giving May 10th as the day to look forward to, they need to look at an advertising campaign.

I propose a virtual Eduard Khil singing "Jollalollalol lollalol lollalol" while using an iPhone as a shaver (with the iShave app), spreading butter on his toast with a Lumia 920 and using his Samsung Mega as a set of bathroom scales.
too bad Eduard is dead. RIP! one of the best songs ever. I wiched I k ow more about the epic video of his.

danramos 2013-05-01 05:49
Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by stickymick (Post 1340068)
More importantly, with Jolla giving May 10th as the day to look forward to, they need to look at an advertising campaign.

I propose a virtual Eduard Khil singing "Jollalollalol lollalol lollalol" while using an iPhone as a shaver (with the iShave app), spreading butter on his toast with a Lumia 920 and using his Samsung Mega as a set of bathroom scales.
Still can't beat this.

mikecomputing 2013-05-01 10:48
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This thread has been taked over by spammers.

Thanks alot!

mikecomputing 2013-05-01 10:48
Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by stickymick (Post 1340068)
More importantly, with Jolla giving May 10th as the day to look forward to, they need to look at an advertising campaign.

I propose a virtual Eduard Khil singing "Jollalollalol lollalol lollalol" while using an iPhone as a shaver (with the iShave app), spreading butter on his toast with a Lumia 920 and using his Samsung Mega as a set of bathroom scales.
10?`where?

jalyst 2013-05-01 15:57
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1340399)
This thread has been taked over by spammers.

Thanks alot!
Well this has always been the epic off-topic thread, hence the sub-forum it's now in...
There's others that are slightly more focussed/targeted, to the point that the community has been asked to report posts/folks that derail them.

Dave999 2013-05-01 17:27
Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
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Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1340469)
Well this has always been the epic off-topic thread, hence the sub-forum it's now in...
There's others that are slightly more focussed/targeted, to the point that the community has been asked to report posts/folks that derail them.
That is one why to look at it. Another is the that the words are free here while the other threads are like north korea.

stickymick 2013-05-01 19:44
Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1340400)
10?`where?
Posted on there Facebook page a few days ago. Now changed it to May 20th. :confused:

Quote:
Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1340348)
Still can't beat this.
Thankees :) You just reminded me why I'm holding out for Jolla.

switch-hitter 2013-05-01 19:55
Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by stickymick (Post 1340068)
I propose a virtual Eduard Khil singing "Jollalollalol lollalol lollalol" ...
A bit tame perhaps? How about "Jolla lolla lolla lolla lol pum pum" ?

Dave999 2013-05-01 19:58
Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
so was delayed with 10 extra days. thats bad! lets hope this was the last delay.

gerbick 2013-05-02 00:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by switch-hitter (Post 1340513)
A bit tame perhaps? How about "Jolla lolla lolla lolla lol pum pum" ?
I was not prepared for this. Not in the least. Holy damn... that's enough drugs to fuel half of Woodstock.

jalyst 2013-05-02 02:40
Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1340487)
That is one why to look at it. Another is the that the words are free here while the other threads are like north korea.
Nah this thread's more like North Korea; it has no direction, is a giant circus/stage-show, & is in a constant state of fear/purgatory.
But that's okay, variety is the spice of life, this thread's for almost total noise, the other's are slightly more focused/targeted.

Dave999 2013-05-02 06:47
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Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1340560)
Nah this thread's more like North Korea; it has no direction, is a giant circus/stage-show, & is in a constant state of fear/purgatory.
But that's okay, variety is the spice of life, this thread's for almost total noise, the other's are slightly more focused/targeted.
yes, the direction must be free to make the words free. Im not sure how can get north korea in that calculation.

its amazing that we have three threads with almost the same inormation.

and soon its time for evem more threads :D this will for sure get crazy!

jalyst 2013-05-02 07:40
Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1340573)
Im not sure how can get north korea in that calculation.
It takes some intelligence & powers of observation, + not everyone has good calculative abilities.

mikecomputing 2013-05-02 16:05
Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by stickymick (Post 1340510)
Posted on there Facebook page a few days ago. Now changed it to May 20th. :confused:



Thankees :) You just reminded me why I'm holding out for Jolla.
Never heard abou 10 only 20th, but also some rumors about 8 May on Asian mobile event where CEO has a talk.

Dave999 2013-05-02 16:09
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Marc Dillon will be speaking on the 8th May at this years GMIC 2013 in Beijing...

http://beijing.thegmic.com/

And Yeah, there is a countdown on this webpage!

Dave999 2013-05-03 07:38
Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
jolla changing CEO again. WTF. Its a joke compiny changing CEO that often.

its like,oh its monday: put your hand up if you want to be CEO this week.

come on, Be serious, the CEO position is nothing you joke about.

genchigenbutsu 2013-05-03 08:26
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I don't know about that.

It might turn out to be a positive that they have the flexibility to substitute the right person for the job as they progress through each stage of development and delivery.

I don't really see a massive downside other than maybe it goes against the norm and some people may be confused.

juiceme 2013-05-03 09:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1340855)
come on, Be serious, the CEO position is nothing you joke about.
Why do you feel like that?

As a job description CEO is just another job in a company. I have understood that at Jolla the people try to rotate jobs as much as possible, it's a kind of agile method, everybody learns by doing and supports each other.

In a startup CO that's quite possible to do, when all people work in one room or one floor of a building. In a larger company, it would not be possible.

stickymick 2013-05-03 09:27
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I guess it's a sensible thing to do for Marc to hand over to someone with better experience at driving a juggernaught on the open road than them continuing to have the engine developer at the wheel.
Just hope the new CEO has got a good track record and hasn't left a trail of trashed companies in his wake.

Dave999 2013-05-03 09:39
Re: JollaMobile : Jolla continues Nokia's excellent work on #MeeGo based smartphones
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1340878)
Why do you feel like that?

As a job description CEO is just another job in a company. I have understood that at Jolla the people try to rotate jobs as much as possible, it's a kind of agile method, everybody learns by doing and supports each other.

In a startup CO that's quite possible to do, when all people work in one room or one floor of a building. In a larger company, it would not be possible.
when ever you bring in a new leader, they will implement their way of working. On the toplevel positions, changes takes time, So there is a reason why (Great) high level managers stay on longer than 6 months.


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