Re: Some things I don't understand
 

Nope. I added that Thanks! as soon as your useful post was pointed out to me. Which would be yesterday.

It's crazy though: everyone talks about how the only difference between the iPod and other MP3 players is that Apple took the time to make everything intuitive about its operation.

This is kind of the counter-example, I think — make it so different from how everything else works that no one even realizes the feature is there.

Thanks again for writing it up, btw.

Roger

Re: Some things I don't understand
 

Erm, no, that's not what was said. Of course Nokia guys pay attention to bugzilla, and the UI spec has nothing to do with any instability in OS2008. The UI spec only relates to, well, UI things (like the ordering of the browser bookmarks).

I'm not gonna address the rest of the post as it mostly seems to be just an insane rant (personally, I find OS2008 a lot better than OS2007).

Re: Some things I don't understand
 

I honestly cannot recall the last time I stabbed and/or cussed-out my screen.

Re: Some things I don't understand
 

I only quoted you on the Diablo. Whatever the correct explanation, the problems are real, and not being addressed.

Compare the responsiveness of OS2007 and OS2008. OS2007 is obviously faster and more stable. Shouldn't a newer version be at LEAST the same quality?

Do you own a N810? Maybe because of the physical keyboard, it makes the issues not as noticeable. If you have an N800, install OS2008 use for a couple of days without stylus, then install OS2007 and use without stylus as well. Switching back to OS2008 will probably start to annoy you, unless you bring out the stylus.

Have you seen my bug links? Touch goes to random places (with or without stylus). Finger keyboard does not launch on touch. Come on, these issues are not present in Os2007 but continues to exist in Os2008.

Re: Some things I don't understand
 

Our experiences differ.

Re: Some things I don't understand
 

And differ greatly, in my experience.

Re: Some things I don't understand
 

You sure your install was in good shape (sounds to me like you're either being hyperbolic to try and bolster your position or you had a corrupt internal card with swap enabled)? I've used all (release) version of ITOS rather extensively (more extensively than you, I'd guess), and OS2008 is definitely way better than the others.

No, I do not own an N810. My experience with OS2008 is almost exactly the opposite of yours. I find OS2008 to be much more finger-friendly than OS2007.

Yes, yes I have, and most of them (apparently) have been fixed in Diablo. So ranting about them now is kind of irrelevant and counter-productive.

By the way, zerojay, it's nice to see you hanging around a bit more again. ;)

Re: Some things I don't understand
 

FWIW, N800 here, and my experience is rather in line with Zero, Gadsby, and the General.

Re: Some things I don't understand
 

Fresh install for both OS2007 and OS2008 on N800. I've done numerous reflash because I just got tho N800 early this year and was really experimenting. Doesn't matter Whether my hardware is corrupt or not, because default fresh install of both OS, shows that OS2007 performs noticeably better and much snappier (for me, and im not the only one), finger virtual keyboard is quite a joy to use. Same can't be said for OS2008.

Strange how you all are having such an opposite experience to mine and others as well. That itself is already a problem.

This thread lists all the issues people are facing with OS2008.
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...t=16365&page=3
has more experiences aligned with mine.

I'm telling anyone right now, there are serious problems that hampers OS2008's usability. I'm not the only one experiencing it, look at the bug reports, and votes and the thread above.

Ignoring the problems I present and calling me crazy is also counter-productive. Saying simply 'works for me' does not help either. Saying the bugs do not matter because Diablo won't have them, is also irrelevant (for now), because it's not out yet is it? And won't be for quite a while. Many feels that OS2008 is a step backwards, as evident in the bug reports and in discussions such as above.

Admitting to the bugs I presented:
Screen tap goes to random places / Especially when typing fast on full screen keyboard
One key input causing multiple repeats by touch input of cos
Finger tap not bringing up finger keyboard

and saying "OS2008 to be much more finger-friendly than OS2007" is contradictive, because OS2007 do not have such problems.

I'm however, a bit relieved that Diablo will have these issues fixed so thanks for that info GeneralAntilles , but as I said it's not out, and the issues still persist. I will patiently wait for Diablo, while making a little noise here and there about OS2008.

Simply put, i'm not making things up. You don't have a problem? Good for you**, I really am, but don't say we are crazy and pretend the problem does not exist. Please accept some criticism, present it, so we make doubly sure, the next upgrade will have these fixed.

The N810 WiMax talked about improved stuff. Gonna see what's up.

** not only pointing at you GeneralAntilles, I take your quotes, because it's more helpful than others.

Re: Some things I don't understand
 

It's unfortunate that you are having that experience, but it looks to me that for the most part OS2008 has improved users' experiences. It certainly has for me. The latest official update (51-3) made a huge positive difference... much better for me than any release of OS2007.

I have to believe that the problem is not necessarily OS2008 alone but that there are other contributing factors. That makes your first statement above overly broad although I realize it's written from your personal perspective. And it was your general "ranting" approach with which some have taken issue. Probably the result of frustration, but to readers it becomes mostly noise and thus difficult with which to relate. That, combined with missing detail, is counter-productive to helping you.

There are people here, such as GeneralAntilles, that could very likely help resolve your issues. Give it a shot.