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GeneralAntilles 2008-04-16 17:29

Re: Mobile Firefox Is Six Times Faster Than Nokia's Browser on the N810
 
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Originally Posted by RogerS (Post 170619)
Will that bring XUL support too?

No, MicroB does not support XUL (cuts down on space and RAM requirements rather significantly), but that's what xulrunner and Minefield are for. ;)

dblank 2008-04-16 17:32

Re: Mobile Firefox Is Six Times Faster Than Nokia's Browser on the N810
 
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Originally Posted by qole (Post 170603)
Is that the one in free's repository? Or did you compile it yourself?

I compiled it myself, since I love my cookies :)

The cookie patch was for an old version and had to be tweaked a little to work correctly.. there's also a javascript patch out there, but I think it had some issues.

It seems strange that cookie support was never added officially, the patch was submitted years ago and seems to work fine.

RogerS 2008-04-16 17:37

Re: Mobile Firefox Is Six Times Faster Than Nokia's Browser on the N810
 
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 170621)
No, MicroB does not support XUL (cuts down on space and RAM requirements rather significantly), but that's what xulrunner and Minefield are for. ;)

Sure. And it's clear that the current MicroB doesn't. But, just to confirm — you're saying MicroB in Diablo won't have XUL either, right?

GeraldKo 2008-04-16 17:38

Re: Mobile Firefox Is Six Times Faster Than Nokia's Browser on the N810
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dblank (Post 170622)
I compiled it myself, since I love my cookies :)

First, would you want to upload your cookie patch somewhere?

More basically, does the basic Twibright Labs download run on Maemo or did you have to do something more than follow their directions to get it to run on your Tablet?

GeneralAntilles 2008-04-16 17:39

Re: Mobile Firefox Is Six Times Faster Than Nokia's Browser on the N810
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerS (Post 170630)
Just to confirm — you're saying MicroB in Diablo won't have XUL either, right?

I can't state that with 100% certainty (as I've never used Diablo MicroB), but, due to a variety of factors, I would be both incredibly surprised and very confused if it did. ;)

Bundyo 2008-04-16 17:50

Re: Mobile Firefox Is Six Times Faster Than Nokia's Browser on the N810
 
I would appreciate a Prism for the tablets... :)

dblank 2008-04-16 18:33

Re: Mobile Firefox Is Six Times Faster Than Nokia's Browser on the N810
 
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Originally Posted by GeraldKo (Post 170631)
First, would you want to upload your cookie patch somewhere?

More basically, does the basic Twibright Labs download run on Maemo or did you have to do something more than follow their directions to get it to run on your Tablet?

It's not my patch, don't remember where I got it from.. but I've attached the patched cookies.c, I think all I did was comment out this line:
if (c->expires && ! cookie_expired(c))

I grabbed the source, patched cookies.c, compiled, and then just copied over the links binary.

GeraldKo 2008-04-16 18:43

Re: Mobile Firefox Is Six Times Faster Than Nokia's Browser on the N810
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dblank (Post 170660)
It's not my patch, don't remember where I got it from.. but I've attached the patched cookies.c, I think all I did was comment out this line:
if (c->expires && ! cookie_expired(c))

I grabbed the source, patched cookies.c, compiled, and then just copied over the links binary.

Thanks for the patch and the reply.

For those of us who know nothing about compiling, etc., is it too much to ask someone to turn Twibright Links (and, heck, the cookie patch, too) into a deb and post it? It sounds extremely useful. Please?

qole 2008-04-16 21:49

Re: Mobile Firefox Is Six Times Faster Than Nokia's Browser on the N810
 
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Originally Posted by GeraldKo (Post 170665)
Thanks for the patch and the reply.

For those of us who know nothing about compiling, etc., is it too much to ask someone to turn Twibright Links (and, heck, the cookie patch, too) into a deb and post it? It sounds extremely useful. Please?

Like I said above, free's repository (http://debfarm.free.fr chinook user) has a version of graphical links2. Probably doesn't have the cookie patch. I bet he'd add it if you PM'ed him.

links2_2.1pre31-1_armel.deb

Jaffa 2008-04-17 12:02

Re: Mobile Firefox Is Six Times Faster Than Nokia's Browser on the N810
 
There's an interesting logic leap leap on display in this thread, where the performance of a rendering engine on a JavaScript benchmark becomes "Mobile Firefox is six times faster".

There is more to a browser's performance - and even speed - than JavaScript performance. Yes, the JS engine speed is obviously of great importance to AJAX apps like Google Reader and Google Docs; but the UI is a lot heavier. Scrolling in Fennec is kinetic and shiny, but awfully CPU intensive (who needs battery life anyway) and slow. I'd say Fennec feels like one of the *slowest* browsers on Maemo at the moment.

GeneralAntilles' is right: the fundamental improvements which lead to this headline figure will be coming in later versions of microb. Let's not get indoctrinated into "microb is - and always will be - slow. Mobile Firefox is quicker and better".


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