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Laughing Man 2009-09-21 01:13

Re: Will the N900 make it?
 
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Originally Posted by UCOMM (Post 330394)
of course

ask yourself, how many people have large desktop computers anymore? the number is dwindling

eventually we'll all move from laptops to "mobile computers"

I don't think it'll be purely mobile computers. Maybe mobile computers + docks. Unless things are integrated with us by then.

christexaport 2009-09-21 01:41

Re: Will the N900 make it?
 
No docks. More technology will arise to use your TV as a monitor for your phone wirelessly, I'd imagine.

And I agree with most of what Gerbick said. (except for the G6 issue. It was the economy. Most of the people that'd buy G6s were broke and no credit was available. Pontiac was an ok brand but GM has too many irons in the fire

ysss 2009-09-21 02:40

Re: Will the N900 make it?
 
For products in this category, it has to come down to its features:expectations match to the customer's to have a lasting appeal.

All the hype and grand advertisements in the world can only make a batch of early adopters pick the phone up.. to have the staying power to last longer it has to stand up to 'reviewers' scrutiny. In this case, the 'reviewers' may be a 'geek' somewhere who makes personal recommendation to his close friends about gadget purchases or someone who works in IT purchasing department.

Laughing Man 2009-09-21 03:09

Re: Will the N900 make it?
 
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Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 330449)
No docks. More technology will arise to use your TV as a monitor for your phone wirelessly, I'd imagine.

And I agree with most of what Gerbick said. (except for the G6 issue. It was the economy. Most of the people that'd buy G6s were broke and no credit was available. Pontiac was an ok brand but GM has too many irons in the fire

I meant docks in the most generic form. Basically you could have access to charge+ display/audio out + maybe input in. Not specifically a Zune HD or iPod dock (ugh while I see how useful they are I just hate how they're stuck to one platform). Why not just have a "dock" with audio out plugs + charging capability. Though I guess in their cases, it comes with proprietary information to control said device.

Munk 2009-09-21 04:31

Re: Will the N900 make it?
 
What Nokia marketing ***** came up with the idea of basically saying "This is good but it's not as good as what's coming next". It's basically saying, "DON'T BUY THIS ONE, WAIT". Who wants to own the "stepping stone" device? It already sounds obsolete and outdated.

And then again what ***** said, or has unintentionally given the notion, we're stopping at Maemo 6. After that, it's a dead OS.

I intellectually know that neither of these are true. But, both items can really be read that way or has the ability of being interpreted through some of that definition.

Has Apple ever said OS 3.0 is a stepping stone in our evolution to OS 4.0 which will be better than sliced bread. No, because it would get people yearning for OS 4.0 and skipping OS 3.0 in favor of waiting.

freppas 2009-09-21 07:07

Re: Will the N900 make it?
 
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Originally Posted by Munk (Post 330494)
What Nokia marketing ***** came up with the idea of basically saying "This is good but it's not as good as what's coming next". It's basically saying, "DON'T BUY THIS ONE, WAIT". Who wants to own the "stepping stone" device? It already sounds obsolete and outdated.

And then again what ***** said, or has unintentionally given the notion, we're stopping at Maemo 6. After that, it's a dead OS.

I intellectually know that neither of these are true. But, both items can really be read that way or has the ability of being interpreted through some of that definition.

Has Apple ever said OS 3.0 is a stepping stone in our evolution to OS 4.0 which will be better than sliced bread. No, because it would get people yearning for OS 4.0 and skipping OS 3.0 in favor of waiting.

I think it was a bit of expectations management gone awry. What he basically wanted to say was YES: great device, cool features, new and exciting OS, BUT: not yet as developed for say businesses etc. as symbian (or insert a cautionary term of your own choosing). Sadly what it sounds like is: see this device? well we're coming out with a better one at some point in the future!

This coupled with the fact that the people who were presenting the Nokia products were perhaps not the coolest cats in town. No offense to them, they're definitely great at their jobs but honestly steve jobs is FUN to watch, he sells. The presenters that Nokia were using lacked a bit of the charisma of jobs.

This gave the whole launch the air of being a bit "older" than it should have been.

range 2009-09-21 07:35

Re: Will the N900 make it?
 
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Originally Posted by freppas (Post 330544)
This coupled with the fact that the people who were presenting the Nokia products were perhaps not the coolest cats in town. No offense to them, they're definitely great at their jobs but honestly steve jobs is FUN to watch, he sells. The presenters that Nokia were using lacked a bit of the charisma of jobs.

The problem is that Apple doesn't sell licenses for their RDD[tm] (Reality Distortion Device).

SCNR, really.

freppas 2009-09-21 07:48

Re: Will the N900 make it?
 
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Originally Posted by range (Post 330556)
The problem is that Apple doesn't sell licenses for their RDD[tm] (Reality Distortion Device).

SCNR, really.

haha, yeah they have this way of presenting things that already exist as fantastic new innovations and it's just so pretty you really don't care about any of the functions it lacks.

In reality though they've found an amazing market potential in realising that normal people don't really use all the functions in their devices, they want something that does what they need plus some other stuff in a really cool and flashy way... and it needs to be pretty.

kenny 2009-09-21 15:17

Re: Will the N900 make it?
 
Nokia's somewhat odd concept of marketing has always been like this.
It's the Nokia way.
Judging from the recently completed Nokia World, I don't see it changing anytime soon.


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