Re: Sept 2009 Maemo Community Council Exit Polls...
 

I AM NOT ABLE TO SEE WHO VOTED OR FOR WHAT.

I suppose Reggie probably could, and I am not sure who else.

But no I am not able to see who voted, or how anyone voted.

This is an anonymous poll.

Re: Sept 2009 Maemo Community Council Exit Polls...
 

Why would it matter who started the thread / poll ??

Re: Sept 2009 Maemo Community Council Exit Polls...
 

It does not make it impossible. I just meant that if people know how STV works they should not be discouraged by low results of their preferred candidates in your exit poll. They still can vote for him without fear of having their votes lost.

Still one can look at poll results and be tempted to help some other candidate than his preferred one on the ground that the preferred one doesn't need his vote so much which can later backfire. So I definitely think this exit poll was not a good idea because it can affect real results. I just don't think in this specific case it is dangerous enough to be taken down. And I do see some positives too (already explained).

Still, maybe there should be some rule about exit polls next time?

Re: Sept 2009 Maemo Community Council Exit Polls...
 

Actually, there's still a lot of space for tactical voting with STV. It feels like rather a weak compromise between plurailty and RRV, honestly.

Re: Sept 2009 Maemo Community Council Exit Polls...
 

I guess what I was trying to say is look at AndrewFBlack, currently with the lowest number of votes in this poll. However he could be EVERYONE's second choice. Guaranteeing him a spot on council.


Am I understanding this correctly? It seems to me people are taking this a little too seriously, but I guess that's just my opinion. The fact that this poll can be voted in by people who cannot even vote for council makes it pretty invalid. The fact that its an STV vote and this is not makes the outcome of this poll even more useless.

But at least it gives people something to b1tch about while we are waiting for the election to conclude. You can thank me for that at least...

Re: Sept 2009 Maemo Community Council Exit Polls...
 

Yes but as the most harmful form of tactical voting I consider giving up one's preferred candidate because of despair that he won't get in. This reasoning may be well-founded so in fact you may feel you have no choice and this makes candidates which are not strong even weaker. STV solves this.

OTOH If you voluntarily vote for other candidate because your favorite one feels strong enough then you are rightfully punished for greediness and free riding when this backfires.

Or is there other sort of tactical voting here?

Re: Sept 2009 Maemo Community Council Exit Polls...
 

Wow, this thread is STILL going.

You guys obviously think about all this stuff far more than I ever have. About the only "tactic" I used in my voting (the real election - I haven't placed my vote here) is simply not voting for myself and choosing the people that I think would best do the job.

Re: Sept 2009 Maemo Community Council Exit Polls...
 

Sjgadsby's thanks on the post above compelled me to also click it.

ooo, this influence stuff is seductive!

Re: Sept 2009 Maemo Community Council Exit Polls...
 

Well, the actual voting results were visible during the time the election had prematurely ended.

Edit: What I meant was that the raw voting results were visible. That is, the list of all the authentication tokens and their corresponding votes was visible, so you could see all the votes, and count them up if you wanted to. There was no tally of votes visible. Sorry for the confusion.

Re: Sept 2009 Maemo Community Council Exit Polls...
 

I didn't bother to count up all the votes. I did notice that one user submitted their ballot without selecting any candidates. A commentary on the perceived quality of the candidates?