Re: T-mobile UK users help needed
 

Skype = no problem
YouTube = no problem
msn = people not on web n walk plus having issues, some issues still been seen on web n walk plus until daily cap lifted
ftp (port 21) = possible issue until daily cp lifted

I have web n walk on the £35 mnth 24 mnth contract and can use skype on wireless and gprs but can only use msn via pidgin over wireless.

However, if you read contract T and C, use of VOIP is excluded from internet fair use policy .....

Re: T-mobile UK users help needed
 

of all things, why block msn? and why have a web n walk plus? surely if you dont go over your cap you should be ok...? i dont use msn so am not having any problems if however I start to experience problems and am unable to gain access I shall be phoning tmobile to complain, I was not shown the t's and c's when I signed up. is sooo lame!

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msn uses a wide range of ports and protocols so tmo must really be doing some work to keep it out..

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927847

in diagnosing your IM connection issues you could do worse than to pick up a copy of the telnet app (https://garage.maemo.org/projects/telnet-client/) for the n800 (works on my n900) and test the tcp port connectivity as given by m$

You could also connect your IM over wifi and use netstat to see the established connections..

For those people who complain that msn live client works on their n95 or whatever; possibly it is using a different port, or using a port that tmo cannot easily block (a web one)

N95 has wifi, I suggest you get your laptop, wire it to your router with cat 5, then use the wireless card in adhoc mode, connect the n95 to the ad hoc and sign in to msn through the laptop. this will let you run net analysis software such as wireshark to see where the packets are going. you might also have a router that will display all the connections it has set up in its status pages, so you can see what your n95 is connected to.. then its just a matte rof lobbying the IM developers to add that port alternative

Re: T-mobile UK users help needed
 

if you msn, you will not text. if youre not texting youre not spending. this is the main issue; providers don't want to be dumb pipes, they want to screw you for every penny.

just change provider if you don't like it; £20 a month gets you 800 minutes, 1600 texts (or 400 mms or a mix) and unlimited data from o2, and msn and skype calling and im works..

Re: T-mobile UK users help needed
 

o2 were the first to complain about skype and were the ones to liken themselves to dumb pipes, I am already on contract and I get 900 minutes and 500 free sms's, I already use facebook to message people so why block msn? facebook and msn and basically the same thing except more people are on facebook so I chat to more via that method?!? seriously where is the sense there?

I am from South Africa and when the interent started to get popular over there there were talks of the telco (there is only one) banning voip as it would prevent people from using the actual phones service... Did this ever happen? no, so why are we here again but this time Im in the UK?

Sorry im moving horrably off topic here so I shall stop my rant there ;)

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sorry one last question, how can I check to see if msn is blocked on my account,i.e is the website blocked?

Re: T-mobile UK users help needed
 

see the ms kb article i linked earlier; it gives the ports and addresses used by msn. there are many other sites aswell that list the ips etc that msn uses. use telnet to connect to the same places. if you cannot get there with telnet, msn wont connect


msn is much older than facebook chat so it might simply be that it thasnt been blocked YET. as far as i know FB doesnt allow voip calls etc, so its not likely to be hated as much by the networks..

add that to the fact that the networks know that billions of kids use facebook every day, they even offer stuff like free facebook if you have at least 10p credit on your pay and go phone, just so they can get the kids onto their network.. banning facebook chat would be a dumb idea, commercially..

did you ever see the networks advertising "free msn chat on your phone!" ? nope.. its not as killer-must-have as facebook, from a revenue point of view

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Err 3 network do. They offer free skype calls and msn even on payg contracts. In fact you don't even need a data bolt on.

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I have installed msn pecan on my phone, I entered my msn details and then attempted to sign in, it thinks about it then closes and says "not signed in" is the me being blocked then or should I get another error message? bit odd I dont get an error message

Re: T-mobile UK users help needed
 

@Spotfist

That is the problem we all had, you don't get any error message.

Ring T-Mobile, ask to speak to a supervisor, explain to them that msn gets blocked unless you upgrade to web n walk plus (mobile broadband plus), and that it SHOULD NOT do, there is nothing in their policy that states msn is blocked unless you upgrade, then you'll get web n walk plus for free and you'll be fine. Make it clear many other users have this problem, if you still don't get the point across, ask to speak to a team leader called Richard, he knows about the problem.