Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 

That's all you can do over wi-fi! :)

Accessing n900 from a Windows PC is certainly possible and discussed here. T'other way must also be possible; I suppose you could access the PC by VNC and using WinSCP then create a SSH session back to the n900, but there is doubtless a more elegant method exists. An ftp server on the PC and one of the devel ftp clients on the n900?

Anyway, nice to see some reverse thread decay - a bashing tthread evolving into one where people are complimentary and actually exchanging views and information...

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 

I use openssh on all my machines, and use sftp/scp with a side of rsync for such work.

I think there's also some support for SMB/CIFS in Maemo, but I have no use for that, and haven't been curious enough to mess with it since Chinook days, so I have no idea what the current state is.

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 

And here is where I'll probably sound like I'm double-talking (bear with me) but honestly... the openness of Maemo means that the things it cannot do right now, the community or some enterprising programmer can make it happen.

Case in point MMS. People were going nuts that a phone released in 2009 didn't have MMS - which, I thought was part of the GSM certification, apparently not.

Well, fMMS came about and I'll be damned if it doesn't add that functionality to the phone. Don't want it, don't install it. Want it? Install it and configure it to your network. Pretty darn cool.

You can't say the same on the non-jailbroken iPhone. I see both sides of the fence - I'm an iPhone owner - but the list of things that the N900 can't do can be shortened if this community decided to code and do stuff as they argue about nothing.

Well that and if you start that kind of thread around here, you'll be labeled a troll, posting flamebait... whereas a thread like this is "ok" it seems.

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 

Yeah I set up an SSH server and VNC server..but I don't like the idea of VNC at all. Not very safe. And I did manage to get it to work with SSH..but I was more interested in the other way round. Access files from my N900 and copy them from my PC to the N900.

The USB cable is not very reliable. I can't connect the mass memory due to it being used by a process to often. And more often than not I'd have to restart to be able to connect the mass memory.

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 

It's a big one for a lot of people here. Here's the big difference: If I don't want Flash on my N900, I can disable the plugin in MicroB. Done. No more Flash. If I do want Flash on my iPhone.... I'm screwed. Done.

I'd call that a pretty big bulletpoint if you want Flash.

True that. Fanboys are ageless. :)

I'm sorry, but since less than 2% of iPhone owners will ever jailbreak their device, I don't count it as a valid solution. It invalidates your warranty, and technically your contract not only with Apple, but in the US also with the provider (AT&T). They've actively blocked updates in the past for JB devices, and on a few occasions people have bricked their iPhone either trying to JB or trying to update after a JB.

That's a strong point of the N900. You want root on the device? Done. You want to access things at the core of the device? Have at it. You can always re-flash it yourself with a freely provided stock image and bring it back to a known starting point. Apple is not as forth coming with their firmware images, and the iPhone doesn't have a fail-safe way to re-flash an otherwise bricked phone. (Open-Apple+U while powering on maybe?)

Proof of the point: A friend of mine (with an iPhone) and I both took video of a party at a third friends place. The third friend wanted a copy of both videos for his own archives. None of us had a micro USB cable, or the iPhone cable (or iTunes). I was able to send it via bluetooth to his laptop on the spot, and lacking that I could have shared it to Facebook or a couple other places and shared it there. Bluetooth took a while, but by time the party was winding up, he had his copy. My iPhone friend had to go home, find his cable, update iTunes, and then had to find a place to upload it to, since it was too large to e-mail. :P Oh, and it was in an odd format that my third friend had to convert into something else in order to view it.

There are some things an open system can do better. Features and functions are going to be better on an open system. With closed systems you can control stability and product feel better, which the iPhone does well, but it does so at a price.

As for the OP, yeah, I'm not a fan of iPhone bashing in general. But at the same time I think it's good to see a list of differences, since we do constantly get bashed for not being like and iPhone. Usually people whine about how the N900 is harder to update/maintain, etc, vs the iPhone. That's the price to pay for the extra functionality. (And if you jailbreak an iPhone and load it full of crap 3rd party stuff, it stutters and fails too. Just with less of a safety net if something goes seriously wrong. :rolleyes: )

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 

Yeah, like I said. Install openssh (or some other ssh server) on the PC, and use scp/sftp, or if you like, maybe gftp. (Y'know, I didn't even mention VNC, although I have used it some, because I was talking about file transfer...)

Yeah, I practically never use the cable to transfer data. It's a capability you couldn't launch without, but it's still an ugly kludge. USB networking is standardized, so an FTP server or similar should be as easy, and would be much more sane IMO. And since wireless works, I've no motivation to tinker with USB at all. It's good for flashing, charging, and eventually host mode.

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 

Woody, you have greatly changed your tone from the beginning to now. I'm glad to see that your intelligence (I knew it was there) is coming out finally 100%.

Congrats and keep doing it. You're becoming (if not already) an asset to this community.

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 

How do you set it up to pick up any wifi? Mine requires me to manually opt-in to every wifi network, which is annoying if you want to steal open wifis.

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 

Sure, the closer you can get to an 3G laptop on your phone the better really imo. A super slim and light, possibly even smaller screen size higher DPI, pinetrail version of the xpphone would be almost ideal. Albiet with a current phone OS switcher mode.

Re: Simple stuff iphone should do and N900 does
 

:confused: Hmm.. How to take that... It's kinda a backhanded comment, no?

Like, "Damn, you're not half as ugly as you were 5 years ago..." :p
Did you just call me ugly? :rolleyes:

I think it's less of a change in tone and more that we just started out on the wrong foot.

I do like where this thread is going though overall. As someone said earlier, a reverse decay into something useful. :)