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Re: Last one to leave please turn off the lights

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Originally Posted by garyc2010 (Post 770711)

Sorry mate

nice, but its 7 months too late for me .............................

you *really* make this *basic* functionality sound as if it is some groundbreaking achievement....................

Im just waiting for flanders to ban me for 89 years........i just hope i outlive the c**t.

Dude. Settle. The venom is completely unnecessary and works against any points you're trying to make. Even if I agree with you, I can't thank you, quote you or even say anything nice when you're seething.

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Originally Posted by RFS-81 (Post 770714)

As gadgets go, I'm a rather pragmatic person. I try to find and buy products that best suit the needs I have - devices that do what *I* need them to do, in a way *I* want them to do it. That's all that matters to me.

Yes, it's easy to list things that are better handled on this or that device, and you can have it, but what is it to me? Does it make N900 worse for me? No. Right now N900 is the best device for me, and everything else is second best (at most).

People burst here insisting that everyone liking N900 is a fanboy in denial? Though I find that insulting, I must say I'm rather envious to these people - in their impeccable ability to objectively evaluate the needs of people they have never met and know nothing about.

I'm not sure I trust the pragmatism of a person who has to announce that he's pragmatic. As gadgets go, I'm even more pragmatic than thou. ;)

In honesty, though, you're right--if it suits YOU, it's nobody else's place to tell you that the other thing is better for YOU. That said, though, it's also stands to reason that you can't criticize someone else's opinion if that device doesn't suit THEM. I think a LOT of the angst is because the N900 had the potential to hit the mark for so many of the people that were dragged in by the "open source" and "Linux" marketing for these Maemo devices from Nokia but failed to see the same kind of transparency and comfort we're used to seeing from desktop distributions that are far more open-source and Linux based. In the end, what Nokia delivered was actually no better than their competition and that has much of the community that, up until the N900, had been optimistic about that openness. Ultimately, the offering continues to be a dangling carrot that keeps moving farther away instead of moving closer.

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Originally Posted by pantera1989 (Post 770729)

Before I am branded a fanboy I must point out this. I am not Nokia's fanboy. I have absolutely lost all my confidence in the company (although it can very easily regain it if it starts acting well). I am an N900's fanboy though. What can I say..I fell in love with it.

If you look at the potential I pointed out, none of it has to do with Nokia. I don't have faith in them anymore. I do however have great faith with the developers and members of this community. It is sad how many non-maemo owners stick around just to flame though.

I love Maemo. If a future device (Symbian, Android, Meego, iOS) with a great hardware keyboard (required) and hopefully resistive touchscreen comes out I would be tempted to make a switch. Not because I think the N900 is bad, but future devices will have better hardware. I don't really care about thickness. The N900 ia very comfortable. If I cared about thickness I would ditch my wallet and carry spare notes...

I'm also not sure why you think that the grumblers, like myself, don't own a Maemo device. Some of us have been here for years and complain BECAUSE we've had the experience of sticking with Maemo for so long.

If it suits you, that's fine. But a lot of the grumbling, I feel, seems to be infighting between the optimists and the disappointed. In the end, I think we all want the same things, though. Throwing around labels (like "fanboys") isn't going to help either way. Let the discussions happen either way. I want to hear from the guys that are happy with the stuff as much as I want to hear from the disgruntled. They're a barometer either way and sometimes I learn something new.

Re: Last one to leave please turn off the lights

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Originally Posted by garyc2010 (Post 770758)

sorry 5 minutes ago you were a linux hacker........................................

and you don't know what tar and rsycnc are (two of the most basic linux commands.........................)

just STOP slagging others if you dont know what you are acttually talking about.........................................

PS im glad there are no problems on your system, as I would doubt you would have a clue how to diagnose and fix any problems you did have

Calm the fsck down. :)

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Originally Posted by Sarcastic_Twit (Post 770763)

Well good luck to you, and if you don't get banned, you know at least the mods will label your thread with relevant tags like "whiners", "nut jobs", or "judaisim" at the bottom.

What about "apologizers", "closed-source" and, to make it sounds slightly more manga hentai, "Nokia otaku"?

Re: Last one to leave please turn off the lights

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Originally Posted by danramos (Post 770702)

You forget relativity. Time for the observer travelling at the speed of light appears slower when observing the objects that are NOT travelling at the speed of light, but time for that same observer would appear to be normal relative to the observer himself. Objects observing the traveller moving at the speed of light remains normal relative to themselves but time for the objects travelling at the speed of light would appear to run faster.

Consider GPS satellites and the highly accurate clocks that ran normally here in atmosphere relative to everyone and everything travelling at the same speed. Once they went into orbit, these highly accurate clocks drifted ahead in time at a syncronized rate because they were travelling at high speeds above the Earth.

Time is not a spacial dimension, per se. It is a dimension, it can be travelled faster and slower (as yet, you can only travel FORWARD) and it is effected by gravity, but you cannot describe it as spacial.

I think you may have misunderstood the GPS satellite system. The reason the USAF have to reset the GPS clock every day is because they are slightly further away from the gravity-well that is the earth so are fractionally less affected than we are.

As they are in a geostationary orbit they would be travelling through space at the same speed as ourselves so I don't see their relative speed as a factor here.

At least that's what Brian Cox said on the BBC recently and he's a nuclear physics professor at CERN so I'm going with him:)

Re: Last one to leave please turn off the lights

The problem with this forum is the alarming number of people who cant or won't call a spade a spade.

The amount of lame excuses I have heard could spawn its own thread:
No portrait mode - would you hold your laptop vertically
Fat dimensions of the device - I only carry devices I can feel in my pocket
It is not a mobile phone - even though it says it is on the website
And yes they often end up contradicting themselves.

If something is lame call it lame. And vice versa.

Re: Last one to leave please turn off the lights

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Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 770744)

You've been bashing the N900 and trolling these forums since February. I'm shocked it took you -this- long to leave.

Pfft. I'm going on my 3rd year of trolling these forums.

Re: Last one to leave please turn off the lights

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Originally Posted by garyc2010 (Post 770583)

what are the chances that that EA of porting need for speed to the N900 ????

What are the chances of Blizzard doing World of Warcraft or Starcraft 2 for the XBox 360 or PS3 ? Does that mean the Xbox and Playstation are minor devices in the entertainment biz and suck at games ? Sometimes (=always) there are more to these big-corp production platform choices than meets the eye.

Re: Last one to leave please turn off the lights

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Originally Posted by danramos (Post 770766)

Who said I was referring to you ;). There are quite a number of non-maemo owners who jump at the opportunity to flame. These might be considered opinions..but saying N900 sucks in a Maemo forum well..it is kinda flaming, What do you expect? I do not go to an iPhone forum and say the iPhone sucks, even if I think so.

Your arguments are usually well reasoned and polite. Besides you seem to dislike Nokia not Maemo. I share to an extent your feelings.

Re: Last one to leave please turn off the lights

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Originally Posted by garyc2010 (Post 770758)

I never said I'm a hacker but I do know tar and rsync, that is why I'm not impressed with you. Strange choice, trying to impress with those. If I had a problem that I couldn't fix after searching then I would post a question on this forum. What did the master foo did when his thingy did not communicate with iDrive ? the linux thing to do is to try solve the problem by yourself and contribute to the community, not cry about it.

Re: Last one to leave please turn off the lights

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Originally Posted by devensega (Post 770771)

I had heard it differently from Discovery Channel. There is some effect of signals moving slower through atmosphere, actually. It has less to do with Earth being a gravity well, however. But anyway, you're only partially right.

Re: Last one to leave please turn off the lights

Got to aplogize to OP for saying in my earlier post that he was overhyping his controversiality. It's just pure trolling and he's right about getting banned. Good riddance.