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romanianusa

2010-12-14 06:51

Re: MeeGo New UI Cannot Save Nokia on High-End Smartphone Market

The problem with Nokia is not software or hardware....i don't care what OS they're bringing out. It don't matter if they have the slickest OS, what ultimately matter is support and advertisement. Let the world know what you have and they're horrible at that. When Nokia N900 came out, nobody really know what the hell it is. Now compare that to Android, Google advertise the hell out of their product before it even came out...nobody really know what Droid is, but after seeing ads almost daily on TV, everybody is hyped up for the product. This is why Androids has become popular today, they hyped up the product by advertise the hell out of it on TV. On the other hand, Nokia is gathering around doing a few shows to promote N900? TERRIBLE marketing!!! So i don't see Nokia going anywhere soon.

Bratag

2010-12-14 07:20

Re: MeeGo New UI Cannot Save Nokia on High-End Smartphone Market

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnoel.nivlac (Post 896397)

I think Nokia needs to stop playing the chasing game. Instead, create a new, cool, high end phone/gadget that "wow" end users. Hire someone with great imagination from Hollywood to throw some cool idea of futuristic handheld devices (thinking the portable panel used in research center in Avatar that transfers information wirelessly from the workstation and take control from the panel :D) to the product design team.
Human being likes attractive/beautiful stuff by nature. But how many of Nokia phones in the market nowaday have good appearance :o? There may be more sales of N900 if it is half as thick and have a larger yet ideal screen size.
Stop chasing, Nokia. And start creating.

http://mynokiablog.com/2010/11/25/vi...nd-nokia-n900/

You mean something like this which was cranked out by one dude in under a month using meego.

There is NOTHING else like that ui in the wild right now.

Texrat

2010-12-14 07:21

Re: MeeGo New UI Cannot Save Nokia on High-End Smartphone Market

Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 896388)

Re: Trolling

It takes two to tango.

If your opponent throws you a mean serve, don't return it if you don't plan on playing tennis.

If you don't want to see a particular topic gets debated upon and gets some limelight, don't frickin answer it.

Calling someone on their trolling is not trolling. It's moderating.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lanwellon (Post 896395)

Of course not.

I mean Linux on desktop OS.

1% market share for many many years.

Then it would help to be that specific in the first place.

On that note, the desktop is already losing ground. Mobile is overtaking it. Android's success shows that Linux can actually have a better shot than purely proprietary alternatives.

lma	2010-12-14 08:09

Re: MeeGo New UI Cannot Save Nokia on High-End Smartphone Market

Quote:

Originally Posted by lanwellon (Post 896395)

I mean Linux on desktop OS.

1% market share for many many years.

There are many figures floating around, some even giving Linux a higher share than OSX, but ultimately any conversation about "market share" is misguided. Linux simply doesn't play that game, there's no single corporation behind it and it doesn't need to produce good quarterly results to survive. In other words, it cannot fail :-)

rash.m2k

2010-12-14 11:10

Re: MeeGo New UI Cannot Save Nokia on High-End Smartphone Market

Have a feast of this;

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2010/12...witter-widget/

Quote:

“Android and iOS don’t have **** on this. Not even close”

kureyon

2010-12-14 11:33

Re: MeeGo New UI Cannot Save Nokia on High-End Smartphone Market

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bratag (Post 896438)

There is NOTHING else like that ui in the wild right now.

Probably for some very good reason. Until that UI can be controlled by thought then it would be a nightmare to navigate and use. It gives me a headache just looking at it.

volt	2010-12-14 11:53

Re: MeeGo New UI Cannot Save Nokia on High-End Smartphone Market

Quote:

Originally Posted by lanwellon (Post 895679)

Android has the most powerful hardware.

I object to this statement. Nokia is better at pushing hardware features noone else have yet gotten to. One of the reasons I am not currently jumping ships, is because of the Android hardware.

Bernard

2010-12-14 12:33

Re: MeeGo New UI Cannot Save Nokia on High-End Smartphone Market

The biggest problem for nokia is that a lot of stuff clearly just isn't finished or in a transitional state. Some examples:

-The N8 ships with an old version of Qt (no QML and no OpenGL)
-the UI of Symbian^3 is still very much menu based (like original symbian)
-the N9 is delayed to next year
-N9 will be based on the older maemo base (renamed MeeGo)
-the Nokia Qt SDK on Linux doesn't support Symbian yet
-the Nokia Qt SDK is still Qt 4.6 based ( no QML etc.)
-the Nokia supported PySide Qt binding are still in beta

Getting a new CEO with software experience seems a good thing since these are software development related. Will it be better for Nokia to abandon the software development and switch to google or microsoft software? Difficult to say, also becaus a lot of stuff isn't finished. But since Nokia does make money they can effort to finish the current plans and evaluate afterwards. If it isn't successful then they can still switch strategy.

kureyon

2010-12-14 12:34

Re: MeeGo New UI Cannot Save Nokia on High-End Smartphone Market

Quote:

Originally Posted by rash.m2k (Post 896536)

Have a feast of this ...

Long on hyperbole and speculation and short on facts.

Quote:

“Android and iOS don’t have **** on this. Not even close”

So? Android and iOS fanbois would say the same of maemo/meego and of each other.