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m4r0v3r 2011-04-22 21:09

Re: MeeGo N900 Developer Edition News
 
Looks like am going to need a bigger microSD card...

Hurrian 2011-04-23 01:04

Re: MeeGo N900 Developer Edition News
 
Oh wow, MeeGo team. I just loaded MeeGo up, and wow, this is the definition of "smooth". No tearing, the screen is responsive and going into sub-menus is really nice to look at.

But there are still a ton of strings without friendly names (qt_ everywhere), and on the Settings app, the grey top bar-thing doesn't sit flush with the menubar, and you can see the text in the gap. The items in the menubar still aren't centered, and the app loading animation makes it feel slow. (I liked the app loading animation, never thought it could be done that way. Please make it smoother!)
Xterm looks really ugly, perhaps white-on-black and larger fonts?
The window border for the task switcher is missing too.
And silver-on-grey text isn't really readable ;)

I appreciate that you guys are taking an extra month to finish it up, as it looks GREAT. The system doesn't run hot like Nitdroid and boot times are quick.

By the way, why are the images using ext3? I thought MeeGo would use BTRFS, or am I missing something?
Anyways, I only had a 2GB card on hand, so I made a compressed BTRFS image on my own. It took up 654 MB, as opposed to the 1.1GB EXT3 is using. You might want to look into that.
I'm also asking, why is there swap space on the image, when it's using the internal (eMMC) swap?

And finally, please make the lock slider lock/unlock the device.

m4r0v3r 2011-04-23 13:26

Re: MeeGo N900 Developer Edition News
 
tswindell is there anyway you can post instructions on how to convert the image to btrfs

AlphaX2 2011-04-24 09:23

Re: MeeGo N900 Developer Edition News
 
Hello Guys,

if you are using Power Kernel, the best way to try meego is to copy the image on the sd-card and flash the Kernel with Maemo Flasher temporaly! After this little flash command it boots up and you can try it out, without the danger of running in trouble with uboot/power-kernel or NITDroid, BUT: You have to use the Flasher everytime for boot Meego up.

About navigation: I know that AURA is NOT coming to Maemo, it will be a MeeGo App - sure you have (maybe/maybe not) to pay for it, but it's better than having no navigation app. :)

Also a nice fact is, that MeeGo-Handset have installed Python out of the box, so you can also code with python / PyQt.

AlphaX2

Stskeeps 2011-04-24 10:26

Re: MeeGo N900 Developer Edition News
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hurrian (Post 993950)
By the way, why are the images using ext3? I thought MeeGo would use BTRFS, or am I missing something?
Anyways, I only had a 2GB card on hand, so I made a compressed BTRFS image on my own. It took up 654 MB, as opposed to the 1.1GB EXT3 is using. You might want to look into that.
I'm also asking, why is there swap space on the image, when it's using the internal (eMMC) swap?

And finally, please make the lock slider lock/unlock the device.

We had some problems with stability of btrfs and developers had trouble mounting the fs'es on their own computers due to too old kernels. Maybe for 1.3 more fixes are in btrfs and more people have upgraded kernels. We don't have any expertise for btrfs and even Intel switched back to ext3 for handset images.

Locking not working is a bug, used to work actually. Swap space is cos of p3 having to be there for u-boot

Stskeeps 2011-04-24 10:27

Re: MeeGo N900 Developer Edition News
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daneel (Post 992984)
offtopic:
Carsten said that QML is easy. How easy would it be for one with some php and sql knowledge and where does one get started?

Do you know javascript? You'll be in heaven if so.

Stskeeps 2011-04-24 10:30

Re: MeeGo N900 Developer Edition News
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaX2 (Post 994468)
Also a nice fact is, that MeeGo-Handset have installed Python out of the box, so you can also code with python / PyQt.

We're thinking of including PySide as part of image. Think of the possibilities. Missing something in your phone when it is running DE? Mock it up in QML, use Python as backend - instant win.

As I say, you have endless possibilities.

humble 2011-04-24 10:59

Re: MeeGo N900 Developer Edition News
 
meego is actually good minus the things that dont work "well".

there other things but the issue with pulse.(is a game breaker.. literately:D)

i've seen it raised in the bugtracker hope its fixed on the next major release.

other then that i love it. great job guys keep up the good work.

xerxes2 2011-04-24 15:25

Re: MeeGo N900 Developer Edition News
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 994488)
We're thinking of including PySide as part of image. Think of the possibilities. Missing something in your phone when it is running DE? Mock it up in QML, use Python as backend - instant win.

As I say, you have endless possibilities.

That sounds great. :) On a somehow related matter, is there a safe way to detect MeeGo? Look here:
https://github.com/xerxes2/panucci/b...ci/platform.py

edit: I don't got a N900 myself so I have to ask.

Stskeeps 2011-04-24 15:28

Re: MeeGo N900 Developer Edition News
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xerxes2 (Post 994601)
That sounds great. :) On a somehow related matter, is there a safe way to detect MeeGo? Look here:
https://github.com/xerxes2/panucci/b...ci/platform.py

edit: I don't got a N900 myself so I have to ask.

/etc/meego-release


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