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bobh 2011-06-07 13:58
Re: Nokia shares dive after sales warning
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1023776)
Two wrongs do not make a right. Two giants do not mean automatic success.
Indeed. You guys might want to look up Unisys. The joining of Sperry Univac and Buroughs to create a computer company bigger than IBM. For about a week. From 120K employees on the day of the merger to under 30K in about five years, IIRC.

Unisys still survives...as a consulting company.

abill_uk 2011-06-07 14:05
Re: Nokia shares dive after sales warning
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobh (Post 1024130)
Indeed. You guys might want to look up Unisys. The joining of Sperry Univac and Buroughs to create a computer company bigger than IBM. For about a week. From 120K employees on the day of the merger to under 30K in about five years, IIRC.

Unisys still survives...as a consulting company.
So what you are saying is MS will crash along with Nokia? if so that is a complete never going to happen simply because of the size of them unlike tiny companies in comparison you have named.

I still want to know what the 2 wrongs are !.

ericsson 2011-06-07 14:30
Re: Nokia shares dive after sales warning
 
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Originally Posted by lohner (Post 1024064)
But doesn't the software bother you?
I want a UNIX in my pocket. All the Linux applications I'm familiar with. But this may just be me.
No. Nokia is in trouble right now, and so is MS - seemingly. You have to remember, Ericsson almost purchased Nokia in the mid 90s when Nokia was in REAL trouble. The case now is nothing compared to how it was then. Nokia may loose market shares, but they are selling more smartphones than ever.

Both Nokia and MS know exactly what to do. They must create a platform that is easy to use, yet have features that only geeks wants. It must be secure, yet be hacker friendly enough for the "XDA-devs" around the globe. It must be smooth and nice, yet rough enough so that "improvements" can be done.

It will be great.

mbo 2011-06-07 14:34
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If Nokia fails with WP and M$ won't buy them, they will release android devices. No doubt about this.

tkatchev 2011-06-07 14:44
Re: Nokia shares dive after sales warning
 
What??!

I'll just leave this quote to stand by itself, as a monument to the sheer infinite nature of human stupidity.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 1024172)
Both Nokia and MS know exactly what to do.

abill_uk 2011-06-07 14:50
Re: Nokia shares dive after sales warning
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tkatchev (Post 1024193)
What??!

I'll just leave this quote to stand by itself, as a monument to the sheer infinite nature of human stupidity.
And i second that "stupid" quote !.

kevloral 2011-06-07 15:00
Re: Nokia shares dive after sales warning
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 1024172)
Nokia may loose market shares, but they are selling more smartphones than ever.
They were selling more smartphones than ever. From Q4 2010 to Q1 2011, Nokia total smartphone sales declined for the first time ever.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mbo (Post 1024181)
If Nokia fails with WP and M$ won't buy them, they will release android devices. No doubt about this.
It may be too late by then. Nokia is diving fast and the ground is closer by the day.

ScourgeV 2011-06-07 16:35
Re: Nokia shares dive after sales warning
 
I don't understand a lot about the market so I'll ask a simple yes or no question. Should I buy Nokia stock right now? (I know there are all kinds of things involved but I figured I'd ask anyway)

lohner 2011-06-07 16:45
Re: Nokia shares dive after sales warning
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScourgeV (Post 1024327)
I don't understand a lot about the market so I'll ask a simple yes or no question. Should I buy Nokia stock right now? (I know there are all kinds of things involved but I figured I'd ask anyway)
I don't believe this is smart, so the simple answer is: No.

Better bet on Nokia bankcruptcy or even further falling stocks...
but on the other hand, I don't understand anything either about markets, can't even remember the name for those brainf***** constructions where you bet on falling stocks and the like... so better don't believe what I say.

abill_uk 2011-06-07 16:51
Re: Nokia shares dive after sales warning
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScourgeV (Post 1024327)
I don't understand a lot about the market so I'll ask a simple yes or no question. Should I buy Nokia stock right now? (I know there are all kinds of things involved but I figured I'd ask anyway)
What would you buy right now? better to wait and see what comes out in the next 6 month or so unless you want to buy a cheap N900 from ebay and join in full time here ;).


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