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tkatchev 2011-09-28 14:58
Re: Tizen?
 
That is some incredibly r3tarded troll logic you're showing here.

I.e., let me rephrase: "I can't buy good steak at the supermarket anymore, so to spite the damned argibusiness I will from now on only eat fermented dog turds and cocaine".


Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken-Young (Post 1098143)
Well, I guess this is the point where I have to stop hoping I'll be able to keep running a gnu/linux phone. I developed a few apps for Openmoko, for Maemo, and I am in the process of porting code to Meego. I purchased four Openmoko phones, and three N900s. But this is one restart too many for me. I'll nurse my N900s for as long as I can, and then transition to Android.

It's too depressing for words.

mscion 2011-09-28 15:03
Re: Tizen?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tkatchev (Post 1098193)
That is some incredibly r3tarded troll logic you're showing here.

I.e., let me rephrase: "I can't buy good steak at the supermarket anymore, so to spite the damned argibusiness I will from now on only eat fermented dog turds and cocaine".
Actually, once you get used to the taste, fermented dog turds are not that bad. However, I'd stay away from the cocaine...

tkatchev 2011-09-28 15:03
Re: Tizen?
 
That depends.

The most annoying and wrong-headed thing about MeeGo is their promotion of Qt as the preferred (and sometimes 'required') native toolkit.

Linux-with-Qt-required isn't Linux, it's a travesty.

If it's Linux, I want all the toolkits -- Qt, GTK, SDL, ncurses.

Note that I've got nothing to say about Tizen yet. If they allow any toolkit to be installed, like a proper Linux OS, then more power to them for doing everyone a service.

If Tizen is another locked-down, HTML5-only appstore toy, then they can go die in a fire for all I care.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jedibeeftrix (Post 1098172)
" the likely scenario is that Qt will continue to play a major role in Tizen projects, but it will not be promoted as part of the core primary developer environment."

Not good enough!

Rugoz 2011-09-28 15:06
Re: Tizen?
 
^

Is it possible to write html5-apps without some platform-specific javascript framework? I know Qt will never be supported on android/iOS but I wonder where the incentive is to support open standards when it comes to web apps.

TheLongshot 2011-09-28 15:17
Re: Tizen?
 
**** like this makes me throw my hands up in disgust.

The dream of FOSS for a mobile OS is in ruins now. This just goes to prove that anything on this scale is just not possible on a community level. We are at the whims of the big boys, and they don't care a whit about FOSS.

HTML5? That's a web technology. It isn't something that you write all applications in. For Linux to be strong, it needs a common API. If Qt isn't there, that's shot all to hell.

TheLongshot 2011-09-28 15:19
Re: Tizen?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tkatchev (Post 1098197)
That depends.

The most annoying and wrong-headed thing about MeeGo is their promotion of Qt as the preferred (and sometimes 'required') native toolkit.

Linux-with-Qt-required isn't Linux, it's a travesty.

If it's Linux, I want all the toolkits -- Qt, GTK, SDL, ncurses.

Note that I've got nothing to say about Tizen yet. If they allow any toolkit to be installed, like a proper Linux OS, then more power to them for doing everyone a service.

If Tizen is another locked-down, HTML5-only appstore toy, then they can go die in a fire for all I care.
Hey, if you want Linux to continue to be a second-class citizen, go ahead and promote multiple frameworks that basically do the same thing.

Jedibeeftrix 2011-09-28 16:05
Re: Tizen?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tkatchev (Post 1098197)
The most annoying and wrong-headed thing about MeeGo is their promotion of Qt as the preferred (and sometimes 'required') native toolkit.

Linux-with-Qt-required isn't Linux, it's a travesty.

If it's Linux, I want all the toolkits -- Qt, GTK, SDL, ncurses.
i see your point, and i speak as a KDE/Qt fan, but i liked that Meego was heavily focussed on Qt.

that said:

Quote:
Note that I've got nothing to say about Tizen yet. If they allow any toolkit to be installed, like a proper Linux OS, then more power to them for doing everyone a service.

If Tizen is another locked-down, HTML5-only appstore toy, then they can go die in a fire for all I care.
Totally agreed.

Dave999 2011-09-28 16:14
Re: Tizen?
 
Tizzzzzzzen for galaxy note now!

ole ole ole when?

rentze 2011-09-28 16:46
Re: Tizen?
 
Buy a Citizen watch, cover the first two letters and there you go!!! A Tizen watch - sooooooo neat!

whayong 2011-09-28 16:55
Re: Tizen?
 
Sounds like a load of horse dung to me. It looks like the N900 will have to live forever......


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