Re: nokia n9 vs the real world. - a realistic out of the box experience review
 

I'm not sure if the upgrade is to make it 'scalable'.
But I believe there's a fonts upgrade on the way before PR1.2.

Have you provided the logs to Sergey yet?
He's ready & waiting, a dev directly from Nokia is actually wanting to help you resolve it.
If/where possible.....

*update*
Sigh, as I expected, you're just not interested in trying at all to get the issue resolved.
And yet you continually complain about it being the single-biggest problem for you.
Look you really aren't interested in getting help to ensure the product better suits your needs.
You have it purely so you can say "it blows compared to x device" (usually iPhone)
I implore everyone to read the progression of this thread, the story as it unfolds is laughable.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=78480&page=35
And in his most recent post he's deliberately closed the door on getting the matter investigated.

This is literally the 1st nice thing I've seen you say about the N9.
You're generally even worse than ste-phan, baby steps... :p

Re: nokia n9 vs the real world. - a realistic out of the box experience review
 

Woops, spoke too soon....

Re: nokia n9 vs the real world. - a realistic out of the box experience review
 

Although I've never owned the N900 I've read enough to know that it was not excellent out of the box as you claimed. The OS was incomplete, it was buggy and abandoned by Nokia. It was only due to the tremendous effort of the Maemo community that the N900 is such a usable product now.

So now you're dismissing the N9 and not giving it a chance to grow. Well, stick with your N900 for whatever useful years you can get out of it and hope that something even better comes along...out of the box of course.

Re: nokia n9 vs the real world. - a realistic out of the box experience review
 

This was an interesting, if grammatically challenging, read. I've had an n9 for 1-2 months now (and the n900 prior for nearly 2 years) and agree with some of the OP's thoughts, in particular the dismay at the multitasking interface. On the n900, when I wanted to change apps OR launch something, I'd take the following steps:

- Press top left corner multitasking screen
- Pick app to switch to OR pick 'desktop' to get to a homescreen OR tap again to get to app launcher
- Launch or do whatever I want

On the n9, it's:
- Swipe the current app away
- Now, if you're at the app screen, pick the app to run (from the gigantic grid of hard to parse icons); but, if you're at the multitasking screen, pick the other open app you want to switch to. At this point, you may be done. Except...
- If you wanted to be at the app screen but you wound up at multitasking, or vice-versa, you need to figure that out and swipe again
- Pick the thing you want

I hate that I get unreliable/unexpected results from this behavior. I don't know if I'm going back to the multitasking screen or the launch screen. I liked the predictable behavior of the n900.

Also, I loved arranging my launcher icons on my n900's homescreens in a way that made sense to me visually. The n9's app launcher grid of a billion colors and tiny text is just visually very confusing. I still feel like I hunt around for the camera app or the gallery, and I can't figure out how to organize everything since it's an enforced grid. On my n900, I made an 'app launcher' homescreen that was rows of apps in a pattern: there was a shape to it and I could space it out to group things together that belonged together. More importantly, if there was an app I didn't use much, I didn't need to have it on a homescreen! I'd just access it whenever I wanted from the hidden-away app launcher menu.

Finally, does anyone else find the app launching icons all sort of... random? They all seem stylistically different, and they're too colorful. I liked the simplicity of the n900's app icons. I honestly couldn't figure out why the gallery icon isn't just a picture of a photo like on the n900 until my girlfriend exclaimed 'what do you mean, the flower makes perfect sense!' She showed me her iPhone and it was all clear - the icons are copycats of that! They make less sense to me, though. :(

I wish the n9 would let me make my own app launching screen for the 8 apps I most commonly use and then let me tap something to get at 'everything' if I ever need to.

I feel like these two problems are the n9's biggest downfalls and steps, nay, leaps backward from the n900. I've learned to live without a keyboard, without a shutter button, without the slide-to-launch-camera lens cover... but I still can't get past the general confusion when I stare at the n9's launch screen or try to multitask.

Re: nokia n9 vs the real world. - a realistic out of the box experience review
 

You seem to be obsessed with my postings. I suggest you buy N9 before you post anything in the future

Re: nokia n9 vs the real world. - a realistic out of the box experience review
 

for me it is excellent. The,interface I mean, not the lack of MMS and orphaning by Nokia.
The future on the same path looked bright, now it seems we are heading for a Windows powered NIT.
Anyway if you never used an N900 in a stress situation where normally only a laptop could work, you won't understand.

@Jalyst: remember copy / paste from the N900?
pls copy / paste the OP text in Open Office Writer or equivalent, format it to your likings and start reading instead of derailing the thread with your unconditional N9 love.
Ps yes N9 is a great phone , I owe you a positive PR1.3 review. W/O mentioning N900.
typed on N900, couldn't bring up the effort on N9. ooops

Re: nokia n9 vs the real world. - a realistic out of the box experience review
 

@Pebby,
WIll this app Toggle fit your bill?
http://www.my-meego.com/software/app...Auto=788&faq=1

One of the strengths of the N9 is how much it can be customized. I'm sure with the support of the community it will eventually be as good as the N900 except for the lack of physical keyboard. In fact the N900 is so good that many users and developers are reluctant to move on to N9 and help improve it. But the N900 has only a limited lifespan left so this transition has to occur one way or another.

Re: nokia n9 vs the real world. - a realistic out of the box experience review
 

for someone that owned a n900 from the start, i can tell you that the interface has had no physical changes over the 2 or 3 upgrade releases. out of the box it was logical and consistent system wide and remains that way to this day. it was not buggy on release as you say, and all the core apps that it came with worked perfectly and far superior out of the box than any phone to date. it was well rounded well thought through product at release, and before any feature apps were added to it.
even with 2 more years i guarantee it will still be far more useful than the n9.

the thing is, if any interface works well across the board consistently and the installed system apps work well then you get the impression you are running a well made OS, right ? no matter whats really going on behind the scenes. perfect example apple : ios.
the n9 is built on a quality OS, but swipe does not give guaranteed results and can be a little frustrating. but its quick! and gives the impression of power beneath... but the out of the box software (already mentioned) are beyond basic, more basic than android offerings although most feel like direct copies.
meego is technically superior than android by miles and will give ios a run for its money with enough limelight.

oh, and i will be sticking with my n900 for the fact (keyboards aside) everything is more difficult or non existent on the n9. even for the basics it should have shipped with considering nokia had the n900 as a resource. i guess nokia forgot about all that work they did.... i have to ask what the hell were they thinking?

Re: nokia n9 vs the real world. - a realistic out of the box experience review
 

swipe manager

Re: nokia n9 vs the real world. - a realistic out of the box experience review
 

I disagree. The way it works is quite logical as a matter of fact. If you open an app from the app grid, and swipe away, it will take you back to the app grid (as that was the previous screen)

If you open an app from the task manager, it will take you back to that, as that was the previous screen

If you want to adjust the way swipe works, all you have to do is get swipe manager. It's as simple as that

I don't see why so many people are complaining about stuff that
1) doesn't really matter
or
2) can be easily fixed with an app/terminal