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nokiabot 2013-08-16 20:31

Re: Bought a N900 :i
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by biketool (Post 1367637)
I have only found this condition on used phones, but flash memory does fail, the worst abuse is inadvertent instant shutdowns like dropping the phone knocking out the battery. If there is no USB access there is no good way to clear file system corruption, even bootmenu can fail if these faults build up. The Chinese refurbs I have had access to had flash memory problems that connecting USB starting with backupmenu and cleaning up with my laptop using gparted, this phone also had issues tricking it into going to flash mode. Some of these Chinese phones will work as repaired, but dont expect a long life

yup the 2nd one i got cannot be flashed it gives nolo bootloader not found in mxkey. Yet to investigate how to get past that :( flash memory does wears as i replaced to check as my n900 was slow ?? But i can clearly say phone behaves better now its fast and responsive i mean apps open faster copying files to pc is faster 700 mb took 30+minuts.

nokiabot 2013-08-16 20:33

Re: Bought a N900 :i
 
plus i got a lot of hq 480p porn stuff and flithy songs in .amr and mp3 on the emmc :D

qwazix 2013-08-16 23:20

Re: Bought a N900 :i
 
@mikecomputing lithium batteries might explode if charged from below a certain threshold of charge and thus there is a protection (in the charging chip? I dunno) that refuses to charge them if they are below that threshold. I have also noticed that all of my phones that sit in drawers for long leriods of times end up with swollen batteries, so I make sure to charge them a bit once in a while.

The bupbat of the N900 (the backup battery that is responsible of keeping the time while swapping sims) can fail in the same way if the N900 is left without battery (or with a completely flat battery) for a long time. Has hallened with both my devices (the last one in fact came with dead bupbat right from the store despite the fact that I bought it new)

@pichlo I don't think that apart from the USB the N900 has higher rate of failure than other smartphones. It's just that it's a special device and many people keep it far longer than until the end of the carrier contract. It has a healthy reseller market (how many people buy N97's today?) and if any given one has a problem there is high probability the owner will come and ask this friendly community (unlike, say, N97 owners), so we witness more cases of failure.

malfunctioning 2013-08-19 17:34

Re: Bought a N900 :i
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwazix (Post 1367793)
@mikecomputing lithium batteries might explode if charged from below a certain threshold of charge and thus there is a protection (in the charging chip? I dunno) that refuses to charge them if they are below that threshold. I have also noticed that all of my phones that sit in drawers for long leriods of times end up with swollen batteries, so I make sure to charge them a bit once in a while.

The bupbat of the N900 (the backup battery that is responsible of keeping the time while swapping sims) can fail in the same way if the N900 is left without battery (or with a completely flat battery) for a long time. Has hallened with both my devices (the last one in fact came with dead bupbat right from the store despite the fact that I bought it new)

@pichlo I don't think that apart from the USB the N900 has higher rate of failure than other smartphones. It's just that it's a special device and many people keep it far longer than until the end of the carrier contract. It has a healthy reseller market (how many people buy N97's today?) and if any given one has a problem there is high probability the owner will come and ask this friendly community (unlike, say, N97 owners), so we witness more cases of failure.

Backup battery? Where is the backup batery for the N900? I thought the N900 didn't have a backup battery, and just some capacitors.

As for your response to pichlo, although it's true that the N900 has turned out to have the longest user life of any other phone, you can't deny the obvious and unexplainable hardware faults (bad USB assembly and SIM card connectors prone to failure). These are disconcerting given the N900 is a high level phone, and that the build quality is otherwise great. My theory is that these, much like the lack of USB OTG functionality out of the box, were the product of rushing production.

qwazix 2013-08-19 17:53

Re: Bought a N900 :i
 
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90864

Regarding bupbat, see link.

As for the other things you mention, you might be right, who knows. I'm curious though to see a research regarding durability of mobiles (not stupid crash tests, real life usage over time) and see how the N900 fares.

handaxe 2013-08-23 22:10

Re: Bought a N900 :i
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwazix (Post 1367793)
@pichlo I don't think that apart from the USB the N900 has higher rate of failure than other smartphones. It's just that it's a special device .....

Device? It's a love affair......

beobachter 2013-08-24 03:02

Re: Bought a N900 :i
 
Congrats on buying the N900 !!!!!

After You're done Installing the CSSU and apps, check out the Mugen Power Nokia N900 2400mAh Extended Replacement Battery with Battery door, that made me really Love my N900 (since the battery makes wonders).

malfunctioning 2013-08-25 20:41

Re: Bought a N900 :i
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qwazix (Post 1368210)
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=90864

Regarding bupbat, see link.

As for the other things you mention, you might be right, who knows. I'm curious though to see a research regarding durability of mobiles (not stupid crash tests, real life usage over time) and see how the N900 fares.

Thank you for pointing that out, I was completely unaware of the internal battery!


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