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Valad 2009-02-21 22:36

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Got it to work once. Exited the application, now it no longer works. Any ideas?

tso 2009-02-21 23:23

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
clear the pairing on the computer side, the recreate it, just like the first time...

Valad 2009-02-21 23:28

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 266178)
clear the pairing on the computer side, the recreate it, just like the first time...

Thanks! That did the trick.

Any reason why I'm going to have to do this every time I want to use BlueMaemo? It's such a good application.

Thesandlord 2009-02-23 01:20

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Lol, I had a typo in my script.

tso 2009-02-27 15:07

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
interesting, downloads.maemo.org lists a bluemaemo 0.2. but i can only find a 0.1 on the garage page...

Valad 2009-02-27 16:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 267577)
interesting, downloads.maemo.org lists a bluemaemo 0.2. but i can only find a 0.1 on the garage page...

It was uploaded on the 26th, which would be yesterday. Maybe its a new build. Wonder why it's not available to us.

VDVsx 2009-02-27 17:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Valad (Post 267589)
It was uploaded on the 26th, which would be yesterday. Maybe its a new build. Wonder why it's not available to us.

Is the new version of BlueMaemo, I'm waiting for approval to upload the program to extras :(

pelago 2009-02-27 22:52

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Cool, I look forward to it. Especially the 'reconnect' icon on one of the pics on http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/bluemaemo/

deter3 2009-02-28 15:54

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
just installed bluemaemo 0.2 , now , i can use n810 as keyboard and mouse 100%, especially i can use d-pad and hardware keyboard with 'mouse' in bluemaemo , no need to change to 'keyboard ' in bluemaemo . thanks for the awesome job .

deter3 2009-02-28 15:59

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
when i test ' ubiquity ' hot key with hardware keyboard on n810, it works like a charm .

VDVsx 2009-02-28 16:04

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
The impatient can grab BlueMaemo 0.2 here: https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=765

I'm still waiting from permission to upload to extras repo :(

VDVsx 2009-02-28 17:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 267828)
The impatient can grab BlueMaemo 0.2 here: https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=765

I'm still waiting from permission to upload to extras repo :(

I must warning that there is a small bug in the known device list. The list use kinetic scroll, and in the tablets the scroll is very sensitive that leads to be difficult to choose a element on the list, sometimes a long press or successive clicks are needed :)

fpp 2009-02-28 23:22

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Thanks a lot for this Valério, this version is just great !

The "Reconnect" function makes a world of difference, turning an interesting gadget into a hugely useful app... works real well too.

The keyboard support on the N810 is fun also, although it involves a lot of guesswork if the layout is not Qwerty... maybe in 0.3 ? :-)

Valad 2009-02-28 23:56

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
This new version is awesome. Really useful, thanks VDVsx!

bhaskarm 2009-03-01 02:51

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Works great. Reconnect works without a hitch so far. Thanks VDVsx, finally I can get rid of my "bulky" htpc keyboard.

Thesandlord 2009-03-01 06:05

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bravo, this is great!

deter3 2009-03-01 16:31

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there's one software called ' excutor' for windows , setup a hot key and you're able to use N810 keyboard to launch any program in windows instead of looking for it in 'start '. all basic shotcuts for windows and firefox works great , except no ' alt' and ' shift' layout for N810 . better to have it for next version .

VDVsx 2009-03-01 16:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fpp (Post 267956)
Thanks a lot for this Valério, this version is just great !

The "Reconnect" function makes a world of difference, turning an interesting gadget into a hugely useful app... works real well too.

The keyboard support on the N810 is fun also, although it involves a lot of guesswork if the layout is not Qwerty... maybe in 0.3 ? :-)

Can you explain better the keyboard issue ? You are talking about the HW keyboard layout right ?

Best regards,

VDVsx 2009-03-01 16:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deter3 (Post 268067)
there's one software called ' excutor' for windows , setup a hot key and you're able to use N810 keyboard to launch any program in windows instead of looking for it in 'start '. all basic shotcuts for windows and firefox works great , except no ' alt' and ' shift' layout for N810 . better to have it for next version .

The to-do list for the next release will be around keyboard extension/issues :)

mfortner 2009-03-01 18:26

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I have not been able to get a BlueMaemo connection on my N800 with my MacBook Pro running OSX Leopard 10.5.6 after dozens of pairings.

It appears to pair successfully as a remote device. Combo, OBEX Object Push appears in the OSX BT settings. I have tried deleting the old BT profiles on both the N800 and the MacBook Pro. I am able to send files via BT, but BlueMaemo ever gets past waiting for connection. Though, the BT settings for OSX indicates a connection, I suspect that is only for file sending protocol.

Any fixes or suggestions for troubleshooting?

VDVsx 2009-03-01 18:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mfortner (Post 268084)
I have not been able to get a BlueMaemo connection on my N800 with my MacBook Pro running OSX Leopard 10.5.6 after dozens of pairings.

It appears to pair successfully as a remote device. Combo, OBEX Object Push appears in the OSX BT settings. I have tried deleting the old BT profiles on both the N800 and the MacBook Pro. I am able to send files via BT, but BlueMaemo ever gets past waiting for connection. Though, the BT settings for OSX indicates a connection, I suspect that is only for file sending protocol.

Any fixes or suggestions for troubleshooting?

I don't have a MAC for testing :), but some users successful use BlueMaemo with Mac's : http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...&postcount=196

deter3 2009-03-01 18:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 268073)
The to-do list for the next release will be around keyboard extension/issues :)

That's great !!! Here are some applications I'd prefer to fully utilize bluemaemo with for u consideration . I do not expect to use bluemaemo for every application and operation . More about web surfing and simple applications like simple text,pic editing , IM and social networking .

A. IE , FF , safari and chrome full keyboard shortcuts are the must , faster scrolling needed , now' space ' key is good to use .
B. Able to lunch programs easier , with " excutor " , it is much easier in windows , but difficult to switch between the programs

If there's a quickest way to exchange some links or tiny words between computers and N810 via bluetooth in bluemaemo , that will be really really great !!!

Wish it helps .

VDVsx 2009-03-01 18:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by deter3 (Post 268089)

A. IE , FF , safari and chrome full keyboard shortcuts are the must , faster scrolling needed , now' space ' key is good to use .

You can increase the scroll sensitivity in the settings menu.

Quote:

Originally Posted by deter3 (Post 268089)

If there's a quickest way to exchange some links or tiny words between computers and N810 via bluetooth in bluemaemo , that will be really really great !!!

I will consider this suggestion.

Thanks

Thesandlord 2009-03-01 19:22

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Right now, BlueMaemo has the ability to change hotkeys in the settings. However, you can only change it to letters. It would be a LOT better if you could make combo keys etc. (look at controlMK for an example).

For example, in Winamp, the "play" global hotkey is something like "Ctrl + Alt + Insert".

fpp 2009-03-01 19:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 268068)
Can you explain better the keyboard issue ? You are talking about the HW keyboard layout right ?

Well, both have issues actually. I have a French (Azerty) N810 and here is what happens :

- the soft keyboard has a qwerty(-like) layout, but keypresses translate to some sort of azerty equivalent (ie "a" is "q" etc.)

- the HW keyboard is azerty, obviously, but the remote host receives a qwerty-like key code (a for q etc.).

Fishing around for the right letters (a, z, q, w, m) is easy enough, but finding and memorizing punctuation, special characters and numbers is almost impossible... I suspect some are even missing :-)

fpp 2009-03-01 19:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 268073)
The to-do list for the next release will be around keyboard extension/issues :)

Great news, thanks ! (but I suspect it's not going to be trivial :-)

mfortner 2009-03-02 02:34

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 268085)
I don't have a MAC for testing :), but some users successful use BlueMaemo with Mac's : http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...&postcount=196

Yes that I'm familiar with that post. Alas, despite that post I have not been able to get it working. I tried installing BlueMaemo 1.1 as well. I've tried booting from flash and also off the SD.

Anyone with any suggestions, please let me know.

Frank Banul 2009-03-02 02:41

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Well done. Works perfectly with Windows XP SP2 and the Toshiba Bluetooth stack. This is a wonderful application. Thanks!

Frank

Laughing Man 2009-03-02 06:41

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
How do you set the keyboard shortcut to escape and other keys not present on the virtual keyboard? Accidentally pressed a button and now I can't set it back to escape.

supernova_hq 2009-03-02 08:52

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
I would also like to know how to bind non-standard keys. I have a PS3 and as you may have notice from a previous post, a couple keys are escape and right-click, neither of which are options.

It would be cool if the "controller" mode could have "sub-modes" such as "PS3", "computer controller", "wii", etc.

My last question is whether or not this program would work on a standard linux machine, I would like to use my linux laptop as a keyboard/mouse for my PS3, but the only way to do that is via VNP on the N810. If anyone knows of another program that works in linux, that would be great also.

VDVsx 2009-03-02 11:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 268214)
How do you set the keyboard shortcut to escape and other keys not present on the virtual keyboard? Accidentally pressed a button and now I can't set it back to escape.

Escape is the "back" key in the n8x0.

Best regards

cardyology 2009-03-02 11:45

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Anybody used this to control EYEtv, the OSX DVR software?

VDVsx 2009-03-02 11:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by supernova_hq (Post 268226)
I would also like to know how to bind non-standard keys. I have a PS3 and as you may have notice from a previous post, a couple keys are escape and right-click, neither of which are options.

It would be cool if the "controller" mode could have "sub-modes" such as "PS3", "computer controller", "wii", etc.

In the next version I will work in the keyboard combined keys and missing keys.
The profile right with the "?" icon will be a PS3 profile or console profile, I'm expecting the help of the PS3 owners for suggestions of the needed buttons/keys :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by supernova_hq (Post 268226)
My last question is whether or not this program would work on a standard linux machine, I would like to use my linux laptop as a keyboard/mouse for my PS3, but the only way to do that is via VNP on the N810. If anyone knows of another program that works in linux, that would be great also.

Right now it will work with just a few modifications, the problem here is the UI, doesn't exist EFL package available for the most common Linux distros, at this time, and compile everything is painful, so not ready for end users :(.

VDVsx 2009-03-02 11:59

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mfortner (Post 268181)
Yes that I'm familiar with that post. Alas, despite that post I have not been able to get it working. I tried installing BlueMaemo 1.1 as well. I've tried booting from flash and also off the SD.

Anyone with any suggestions, please let me know.

You can try the following setup:

1- Follow the 5 steps described by phutterman in the thread cited.
2- Start BlueMaemo in the "Open connection" mode, in the Mac Side go to the Bluetooth preferences and choose to connect to n8x0.
3 - When you reach the connection, go to the mouse profile, and see if it works, if not continue there until get a message asking for connect again, hit yes.
4 - If it doesn't work, tell me what happens in the steps 2 and 3.

Best regards.

Laughing Man 2009-03-02 15:32

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 268235)
Escape is the "back" key in the n8x0.

Best regards


Thanks, now that I finally got it working in Vista with my external bluetooth adapter (had to hack around using widcomm) I can use it for presentations!

Couldn't do that with Ubuntu since I had to turn off Compiz just to get an external monitor to work.

VDVsx 2009-03-02 16:34

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
BlueMaemo is finally in the Extras repo :)

http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/bluemaemo/

If you like BlueMaemo, help promoting the app with a comment/vote, this will show BlueMaemo to other user, that can bring new ideas :)

Thanks to all that made suggestion and features requests.

matatron 2009-03-02 17:21

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Ready, I put a comment on maemo.org

Here is a copy:
This is an excellent application. I use it as a Remote Control with PowerDVD when watching movies on the PC.

The version 0.2-1 is much better, and I'm glad to see this project improving. I just have a suggestion for a next version. I know is can be kind of complicated but it would be helpful to have multiple profiles for the Media option, so I can configure one profile with the keys to control Winamp, and other to control PowerDVD, so I can change easily from one profile to the other without having to remap all the keys one by one.

Anyway, thanks for the app. Good Job

PS:Also, I guess all of you have seen the Media Keyboards that have special buttons on top of the F# keys, that open certain applications like Media Player, Mail, Browser, Calculator, My Pc or run functions like Vol+, Vol-, Shut Down or Hibernate. Is possible to emulate those buttons?

VDVsx 2009-03-02 17:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by matatron (Post 268311)

Anyway, thanks for the app. Good Job

Thanks
Quote:

Originally Posted by matatron (Post 268311)
PS:Also, I guess all of you have seen the Media Keyboards that have special buttons on top of the F# keys, that open certain applications like Media Player, Mail, Browser, Calculator, My Pc or run functions like Vol+, Vol-, Shut Down or Hibernate. Is possible to emulate those buttons?

Yes its possible, but I have to extract those first from a BT keyboard (I think someone will help me :)), because they aren't defined in the specs that I have.

mfortner 2009-03-03 02:01

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VDVsx (Post 268238)
You can try the following setup:

1- Follow the 5 steps described by phutterman in the thread cited.
2- Start BlueMaemo in the "Open connection" mode, in the Mac Side go to the Bluetooth preferences and choose to connect to n8x0.
3 - When you reach the connection, go to the mouse profile, and see if it works, if not continue there until get a message asking for connect again, hit yes.
4 - If it doesn't work, tell me what happens in the steps 2 and 3.

Best regards.

Thank you for being patient and willing, I tried following the steps again. Beforehand, I deleted the BT device profiles on both the N800 and the MacBook Pro. I rebooted the laptop then prceeded with the 5 steps:

1. Turn bluetooth on on both devices. Set the N800 visible.
2. In the Mac Bluetooth menu, click "Set Up Bluetooth Device."
3. On the N800, start BlueMaemo and click open connection.
4. On the Mac, select "Any Device." Choose the N810 and enter a passkey. Then enter passkey on N800.
5. Click "Continue" on the Mac dialog box. Uncheck headset and leave remote device checked.

The BT set up box confirms device set up. I close the box. On the Mac side, it indicates that they are connected, however, BlueMaemo indicates it is waiting for a connection.

Under the N800 profile I never see anything that refers to mouse

So even though no connection appears to have been establiched, I close BlueMaemo, restart BlueMaemo, click open connection & try to connect through the Mac's BT prefs: scroll down to N800 and select connect (the only other choice is send file). Still...waiting for connection. There are no other menu items for the N800.

I also tried setting up as a mouse and then a keyboard, but the N800 is not recognized under those set up menus.

In the profile info, services indicated are: BlueZ HID mouse & keyboard, OBEX Object Push, Headset Audio Gateway also is listed, which surprises me since I unchecked that box during set up.

pelago 2009-03-03 21:20

Re: Introducing BlueMaemo
 
Thanks for 0.2. How does the reconnect feature work? I can connect to my Ubuntu HTPC using "sudo hidd --connect [MAC address]" ok (it doesn't work if I don't use sudo), but the reconnect doesn't seem to do anything. Do I need to leave the PC in a particular state?


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