Re: What mobile review n900 - maemo 6
 

Have a look at Apple's iTablet tomorrow - then you will get an idea. But: Apple will for sure bring (print media) content for this device also. And this is still the missing link when it comes to Nokia - they are just always one step behind Apple and - now with Android - Google...

Re: Maemo 6 / Harmattan on N900?
 

The thread "What mobile review n900 - maemo 6" with eight posts has been merged into this thread.

Re: What mobile review n900 - maemo 6
 

Thanks, good news!!

Now assuming the Nokia employee who told this to the journalist really had a relevant role at the company and thus wouldn't say such thing just based on own assumptions, why doesn't Nokia officially confirm that? Maybe there are good reasons from both technical and business point of view, but I don't know them.

Can previous tablet owners confirm if Nokia told them in advance they would receive an OS upgrade before it was released?

Re: Maemo 6 / Harmattan on N900?
 

It would be a very poor idea for Nokia to promise an upgrade to n900 owners now, to ease our minds, and not deliver later on rather than it would be for them to suprise us at, or close to, release with a shiny new piece of software for our phones.

That being said. Nokia does have a history of upgrading the tablets, and we know from the maemo summit that the hardware architechture, which is the commonly quoted reason for maemo 5 not being available on the older devices, will not be changing. As mentioned before, in the current climate where Apple and Google upgrade their devices, it would definately be to Nokia's benefit to follow suit lest they continue to see their market share decline in favor of more progressive software practices.

This applies to Symbian as well.

Re: Maemo 6 / Harmattan on N900?
 

Definitely Nokia's image on the market would be very affected if they don't give an upgrade to N900 owners while competitors like Apple and Google do.

Not compromise with the upgrade now is obviously more comfortable, but since competitors are compromising it is also a competitive disadvantage. Maybe they think the average consumer does not consider this fact when choosing their mobile/tablet, so it isn't a big deal.

Re: Maemo 6 / Harmattan on N900?
 

as much as i want to believe this ... i dont think that nokia will upgrade the n900 to maemo 6. why? because what they did to fp1 devices which lacks hardware support.... up to this date i still haven't seen any confirmation on maemo 6 device having the same hardware or at least we know it would bring multi touch?

i hope im wrong but i dont want to put high hope on it and be disappointed later.

Re: What mobile review n900 - maemo 6
 

If Nokia decides to appear to provide an upgrade, they will probably call PR1.2 Maemo6, and the next Maemo device will come with Maemo7. That's what they actually did with the N810.

Re: Maemo 6 / Harmattan on N900?
 

this device Nokia n900 is capable of running maemo 6 os it is powerful enough with the arm cortex a8 processor 600mhz dual core plus graphic accelerate
maemo 6 will be on n900

Re: Maemo 6 / Harmattan on N900?
 

Maemo 5 Os to maemo 6 Os qt and rube base will running on Nokia n900 fully Compatible

in the future maemo 7 maybe

Re: Maemo 6 / Harmattan on N900?
 

maemo 6 will be compatible to resistive single with physical keyboard and capacitive for multi-touch

rumor as it that n920 will have capacitive screen with multi-touch

i personal prefer the n900 because physical keyboard and it small enough to fit in the pocket this phone is best Nokia ever (away from n95)
option touch screen only no, physical keyboard and multi-touch hell yah

Re: Maemo 6 / Harmattan on N900?
 

Sigh. ajflex, stop.

It is _already known_ (not a rumor) that the next device will have a capacitive screen and multitouch gimmicks.

And seriously, when the N-series VP actually said that there won't be "Maemo 6" for N900...

Re: Maemo 6 / Harmattan on N900?
 

Aigo launches feature-packed N500 Maemo MID

By Jeremy To
Categories: Linux | MID



Makers of a line of mobile internet devices that included the P8860, the first Intel-powered MID to be available worldwide in 2008, Aigo has just launched the N500, which is a bit of a departure in several areas compared to most of its previous MID offerings.

For starters, the device uses an ARM-based 806MHz Marvell PXA310+ processor powering the Maemo OS, rather than an Intel Atom running Moblin. This makes the N500, ironically possessing a very Nokia-esque name, the second non-Nokia device to run Maemo, the first being the very similar Optima OP5-E. Going beyond the capabilities of most other MIDs, Aigo has packed the N500 full of additional functionality creating a really versatile mobile device, including telephone communications and GPS.


The aigo N500's phone interface

The N500 has a 4.3-inch WVGA resistive touch screen, 128MB DDR RAM, 256MB ROM, b/g WiFi, Bluetooth 2.0, 3G (EVDO) voice and data connectivity, GPS, VGA webcam, 3.2MP back facing camera, and a high capacity 2600mAh li-on battery.

Although the specification seems similar to a high-level smartphone, Aigo still classifies the device as a MID due to its larger size and heavier weight of 11.3 ounces. Early reports indicate the device has very good performance and the touch screen is responsive and easy to use with either finger input or the provided stylus. The build quality is also said to be very good, with the white casing having a textured matte finish and a polished metallic border around the edge of the front.



If you haven't noticed, the N500 and Optima OP5-E both possess nearly identical specifications, though I'm uncertain whether this is coincidence or a result of a collaboration between the two companies.

As with the Optima, I think the N500 has a lot of potential with its good hardware specification, myriad features, and the promising Maemo OS. It is on sale in China now for 3999 RMB, which works out to around US$586. Could this be the start of a building wave of non-Nokia Maemo MID devices?



3G SIM card slot and battery compartment

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the n900 is more powerful than this phone byfar

Re: Maemo 6 / Harmattan on N900?
 

javispedro
ok brother

Re: Maemo 6 / Harmattan on N900?
 

What's your source on this?

N900 will be history in 6months!
 

I have read an interesting annoucement of Nokia from one of the blog regarding the new Nokia Maemo 6 device that will be coming out this 2nd half 2010. Maemo 5 is not even yet refined and the N900 only just came out not long ago and it is already slowly forgotten by Nokia. Like we all are here waiting for Nokia's mercy to provides us the portrait mode UI. But so far no official words from Nokia that portrait will become available anytime soon.

Yet the new QT4.6 UI has been announced that it will be available on the SYMBIAN OS and the MAEMO 6. But nothing heard with MAEMO5. This is upsetting to know that the N900 that only recently released will soon be history.

A good question is will Nokia ever made MAEMO6 available for N900? too few little words heard from the official Nokia.. our hope is getting slimmer everyday.

Maemo5 will soon become history along with it's shell the N900. It's legacy will be rememberred by us.

Rest in pieces my beloved N900. PS. when the next N910 or N902 or what ever it call when it come out.

Re: N900 will be history in 6months!
 

hm.
i dont think (or rather hope) that the n900 will be forgotten

i mean, how much different can the n9xx be? the n900 has more than enough hardwarepower, so nokia doesnt necessarely need a new platform for maemo6. and nokia knows that we (the community) know that.
the only thing they'll do is disappoint all the n900 users. since this is not the apple-community, i think nokia cant afford doing such a move.

Re: N900 will be history in 6months!
 

Check this first: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kkS2...eature=related Its about QT 4.6 :)

And second, it was already known that next version is coming out in first half of 2010, but for resale in later 2010, maybe 2011 Q1.

Re: N900 will be history in 6months!
 

And from nokia website:

Nokia announces official Qt port to Maemo 5
Developers will be able to target the Nokia N900 and upcoming Maemo and Symbian devices.

STATUS UPDATE:
19 January 2010 -- Beta now available.
01 December 2009 -- 2nd technology preview now available.
09 October 2009 --Espoo, Finland --Nokia today announced the creation of the official Qt port to Maemo 5 and published an initial Technology Preview release. This port to Maemo 5 means that developers can now use Qt to target the upcoming N900 device and also ensures that applications can be easily ported to all Qt’s supported platforms including the next Maemo 6 release as well as Symbian and Windows Mobile.

Re: N900 will be history in 6months!
 

yeah i saw that. see my comment at the top? lol. but that is not officially support by Nokia yet. QT4.6 is still in it's beta. Nokia still not in a hurry to put it in use on N900 yet. if Nokia would make maemo6 compatible on N900 then i bet there will be more happy customers and more moneys for them. I would not mind to pay another 50 dollars to get an official upgrade to maemo6 OS on the N900 as long NOKIA make the N900 moving forward.

Re: N900 will be history in 6months!
 

yes you are right. but QT is already ported to N900. The only problem is it is not the QT4.6. I think the version N900 using is QT4. it make a lot of difference if you think of the limitation in this version.

Would be nice to have all QT4.6 integrated into the OS fluently. And QT4.6 can do much more graphic support with hardware rendering. It is nice but when will NOKIA decides to do it?

Re: N900 will be history in 6months!
 

Oh come on . . . that is too cool . . . . can the N900 really do this . . . and if so please give it too us . . . . what are you waiting for . . . . I will beta test . . . . Do you see the visual effect from vertical to horizontal ????!?!?!?!


The phone looks like a N900 but reads N00?!?!


what gives Nokia???


Does the N900 have the proper hardware to do Landscape to Portrate as shown on the video???!?

Re: N900 will be history in 6months!
 

The current version of Qt on N900 is 4.5.something, and I believe 4.6 is coming soon. Out of interest, what was the blog post you mention in your first post in this thread?

Re: N900 will be history in 6months!
 

When buying any electronics you should buy what is the best for you NOW and enjoy it. Prices go down and new models come up all the time. If you are always gonna wait for the next version, you could be waiting for ever!

Re: N900 will be history in 6months!
 

Taken again from nokia website:

The Qt port to Maemo 5 is designed specifically to work within the Maemo 5 environment, which will power the upcoming Nokia N900 device. The port itself will be based on Qt’s upcoming version 4.6 and is scheduled for final release in Q1 of 2010.

https://qt.nokia.com/about/nokia-ann.../newsitem_view

Re: N900 will be history in 6months!
 

IIRC, it was stated clearly and officially that Nokia will not include portrait mode UI for the system UI (=the desktop, the task switcher, the application menu) in Maemo5. No need to wait.

Re: Maemo 6 / Harmattan on N900?
 

Me.

I heard him say so along with a few hundred people in Barcelona.

Re: N900 will be history in 6months!
 

I am sure an intrepid hacker will get everything to work on my n900 if Nokia does not do it themselves. Open source and all that...

Re: N900 will be history in 6months!
 

how narrow minded is the guy that made this thread? n900 has the hardware, all it needs is a software update.

Re: N900 will be history in 6months!
 

who cares? I have a great device

Re: N900 will be history in 6months!
 

Actually doesn't it also depend on how _broad minded_ the devs are? For example if they make the screen capacitive only and fully dependant on a TPM chip... Of course I really hope they don't do something as bad as this!

Re: N900 will be history in 6months!
 

My hope is that nokia will see how popular the N900 is becoming, and realize how important support for this device will be to the future of maemo.
The next device based on the speculation I've read, will be more of a tablet than a phone. Much bigger in size than the N900. The N900 might still appeal to a very large crowd more than step 5, because of its size. other maemo devices are not even on the horizon yet.
In other words step 5 and the N900 might not actually have to compete with each other.
A steady growth in popularity of the N900 might force Nokia to invest more into perfecting the device, and maybe even porting maemo 6 to it.

Really I'm just hoping... Who knows what'll happen.
In the meanwhile I'm certainly enjoying my N900 now!

Re: N900 will be history in 6months!
 

I wouldn't call making an OS suitable for capacitive screens only "broad minded"... it's actually very narrow minded.

Re: N900 will be history in 6months!
 

im absolutely sure nokia will add some kind of hard ware to their next device just to make sure the n900 cant run maemo6, they have never allowed a symbian device to upgrade to a newer OS, why would they, they need to sell new devices. im more than happy with maemo5 and n900 so its not really an issue to me

Re: N900 will be history in 6months!
 

so... there will be more apps produced for the new maemo 6 device than the n900???

Re: N900 will be history in 6months!
 

Probably not. Developers will have heard of the Maemo 7 device by then.

Re: N900 will be history in 6months!
 

Absolutely. It's a bit like buying a car. It's depressing to think perhaps that you could have waited for next year's model, but consider you'd have been walking for a whole extra year...

Obsolescence is, however, in the mind of the beholder. My Newton still works (I use it most often as an occasional fax machine). My N810, which seems to have been written off, performs sterling service in many ways. The N900 I have in hand will perform likewise until it dissolves. It does what it does now. Waiting would have meant I walked a lot further this year...

Re: N900 will be history in 6months!
 

And who said you have to buy the Maemo 6 device when it comes out? If you weren't happy with your N900 you could have sold it.
Don't get frustrated by marketing tricks.

Re: N900 will be history in 6months!
 

I dont think so.. This is not a symbian...

Re: N900 will be history in 6months!
 

I find it interesting to observe the corporate cognitive disconnect that permits Nokia to implement a plan to use their R&D devices to build a strong community around their future flagship platform while simultaneously doing everything they can to kill that community with each successive hardware revision.

Nokia isn't a company so strapped for cash or personnel that it couldn't managed to ship both a capacitive and a resistive device side-by-side. Thus appealing to at least 50% more users.

Nokia's hedging on this platform may yet be the death of it. . . .

Re: N900 will be history in 6months!
 

It would be nice if Maemo 6 would be ported to the N900, especially coming out so soon afterwards, but I'm assuming it's not going to happen...as has been said Nokia has a long history of tying a software release to a hardware release. Besides, you probably won't be missing much. The guys with their N8xxs seem to be getting along just fine.